1. Post #321
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    I'm sorry to say this XP community, but I have dropped my WinXP masterrace flag and installed Vista.

    Would have preferred Win7 but Vista was the only thing on hand.
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  2. Post #322
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    May 2008
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    Took my last look at the familiar windows XP desktop today, before finally installing the Windows 7 copy I got for christmas.

    Goodbye, 1/2 of my childhood :c


    Hello compatibility with BF3
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  3. Post #323
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    Most of you guys saying this don't realize it's a really really bad argument if you actually know what you are talking about, right?
    except it genuinely is, windows xp is far less stable than later iterations
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  4. Post #324
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    except it genuinely is, windows xp is far less stable than later iterations
    All computers that I used Windows XP with would probably grind into dust on any other OS (Well, maybe Except Win98).

  5. Post #325
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    except it genuinely is, windows xp is far less stable than later iterations
    It really isn't genuine. People aren't generally running XP because they love XP, they run it because it runs that one piece of software or supports that one driver. It rarely has to do with an old computer. And the stability? lol. I've had as many BSoDs with Windows 7 as with XP. They're both stable enough for non-critical usage, average at best.
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  6. Post #326
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    XP is alright for casual use. Windows 7 is helpful if you want to get down and dirty with anything.
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  7. Post #327
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    XP was a clear winner over networking. Windows 7 is an asshole when it comes to wireless, and without reason. Every time I reboot Windows 7 or 8, it gives me the yellow triangle with my wi-fi until i disable and re-enable my wireless card. Doesn't matter if I use Microsoft's driver or the manufacturer's driver, it always happens.
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  8. Post #328
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    XP was a clear winner over networking. Windows 7 is an asshole when it comes to wireless, and without reason. Every time I reboot Windows 7 or 8, it gives me the yellow triangle with my wi-fi until i disable and re-enable my wireless card. Doesn't matter if I use Microsoft's driver or the manufacturer's driver, it always happens.
    That seems very much like a driver problem though. Works fine for me on several Win7 computers.
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  9. Post #329
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    September 2011
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    That seems very much like a driver problem though. Works fine for me on several Win7 computers.
    On several different computers, I've installed Windows 7, and the wireless won't work right until several reboots later. There's no rhyme or reason. Just more "Microsoft magic".

  10. Post #330
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    On several different computers, I've installed Windows 7, and the wireless won't work right until several reboots later. There's no rhyme or reason. Just more "Microsoft magic".
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  11. Post #331
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    March 2007
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    On several different computers, I've installed Windows 7, and the wireless won't work right until several reboots later. There's no rhyme or reason. Just more "Microsoft magic".
    Make sure you have the latest updates/service pack and make sure you don't use any crappy third party wireless programs (they usually come with drivers but you can have the driver and not the program if you use device manager to install the driver)
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  12. Post #332
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    September 2011
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    Make sure you have the latest updates/service pack and make sure you don't use any crappy third party wireless programs (they usually come with drivers but you can have the driver and not the program if you use device manager to install the driver)
    I NEVER use their crappy programs. I always extract the bare driver and install it via device manager. Now I just download updated driver packs and install them to my USB stick. I have just about every xp driver imaginable for chipsets, sound, video, WLAN, LAN, SATA, IDE, HID devices, Printers, scanners, gamepads, and webcams. Also, "Driver Genius Professional" has saved my ass a few times when the client has a "made for XP" machine where there is no driver downloads from the manufacturer anymore. It's my best software purchase yet. :)
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  13. Post #333
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    Here is my experinces with the 3 latest OS

    XP - Gave me a fuck load of BSOD!

    Vista - Just shit period

    7 - Puts Vistas some good parts and alot of xps good stuff into one nice sleek OS

    As of today, My windows 7 has never really had a blue screen (or any other problem for that matter). Only like 3 times but thats when my graphics card wasnt updated when I played fallout 3.

    Edit:

    oh and Win 8 - Just looks like the windows phone.
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  14. Post #334
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    April 2006
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    Windows XP will always be my favorite OS. Sure I hardly ever use it. But it's still my favorite, 1/2 of my childhood happened on that OS. I can't say I'm attached to windows 98 however, as I was too young to feel sentimental towards it when I switched.

    Also I used XP in the part of my life when things was great, and nothing could go wrong.

    Windows 7 on the other hand... I was entering the state of depression in my life when I moved over to it.

  15. Post #335
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    Here is my experinces with the 3 latest OS

    XP - Gave me a fuck load of BSOD!

    Vista - Just shit period

    7 - Puts Vistas some good parts and alot of xps good stuff into one nice sleek OS

    As of today, My windows 7 has never really had a blue screen (or any other problem for that matter). Only like 3 times but thats when my graphics card wasnt updated when I played fallout 3.

    Edit:

    oh and Win 8 - Just looks like the windows phone.
    How's Vista shit?
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  16. Post #336
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    I will never understand the hate for Vista.
    Got it soon after it was released, never had any problems with it.
    Obviously, it used more resources than XP but that's explainable because it was newer and made to run on more powerful hardware.
    Even then it was still faster, probably because of how it used the RAM
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  17. Post #337
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    XP was a clear winner over networking. Windows 7 is an asshole when it comes to wireless, and without reason. Every time I reboot Windows 7 or 8, it gives me the yellow triangle with my wi-fi until i disable and re-enable my wireless card. Doesn't matter if I use Microsoft's driver or the manufacturer's driver, it always happens.
    That's interesting. I have the exact same problem with my PC. When I wake it up from sleep, there seems to be about a 50/50 chance that my wireless won't work. I just assumed it was a hardware problem, but maybe not then.

    Edited:

    That said, it started doing this after my PC stopped turning itself on in the middle of the night, so I'll take dodgy wireless over sleep interruptions tbh

  18. Post #338
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    July 2006
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    How's Vista shit?
    It fucked up alot when I used it for Gaming or some programs wouldn't work. Plus it was very confusing.

  19. Post #339
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    My experience with 7 has been fantastic. My 2004 P4 Dell, and even my netbook run it.

  20. Post #340
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    It fucked up alot when I used it for Gaming or some programs wouldn't work. Plus it was very confusing.
    Well that's ironic

    My experience with Vista for gaming so far seems to be smoother than before. Plus, you can't do DX10 on XP. Crysis looks pretty good now with DX10 on my PC.

    Well, then again, I also got hardware upgrades at the same time.

  21. Post #341
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    I hope MS finds some way to upgrade to Windows 8 easier and cheaper than paying triple digits.
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  22. Post #342
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    July 2006
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    Well that's ironic

    My experience with Vista for gaming so far seems to be smoother than before. Plus, you can't do DX10 on XP. Crysis looks pretty good now with DX10 on my PC.

    Well, then again, I also got hardware upgrades at the same time.
    One thing i was happy about was playing like you said crysis and making it look snazzy and playing Halo 2. But other then that it just felt broken to me.

  23. Post #343
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    September 2011
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    Compared to XP, Vista is a bloated turd. Even post-Service packs, it's a bloated, sluggish turd that hogs resources without reason. With Windows 7 around, Vista is now obsolete. Windows 7 is better in every way, except Vista's sidebar was better. I could maximize a window and still see my gadgets. Windows 7 fails there... hard.
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  24. Post #344
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    Compared to XP, Vista is a bloated turd. Even post-Service packs, it's a bloated, sluggish turd that hogs resources without reason. With Windows 7 around, Vista is now obsolete. Windows 7 is better in every way, except Vista's sidebar was better. I could maximize a window and still see my gadgets. Windows 7 fails there... hard.
    You never fail to disappoint me.
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  25. Post #345
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    September 2011
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    You never fail to disappoint me.
    Whatever. I'm the PC expert, and your opinion isn't needed. :)
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  26. Post #346
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    I hope MS finds some way to upgrade to Windows 8 easier and cheaper than paying triple digits.
    Won't happen. If Microsoft sold Windows 8 for cheap to consumers, the OEMs would just rebel and either tell Microsoft to slash the volume prices, or would just start buying the consumer version wholesale. If they did cut the price for OEMs, then judging by newegg, a copy of Windows 7 costs $99 in America, and I read somewhere Dell and Acer and the rest typical pay something around $20-30 for a copy of Windows (though I can't seem to find this info anymore). If you assume that this (coincidental I admit) 66% OEM discount would hold for Windows 8, and for the sake of competition, assume Microsoft would challenge Apple's $30 OS policy and so sell Windows 8 for $30 too, Microsoft would sell a copy of Windows 8 for $6-10 to an OEM. Now, I can't find any figures on how many copies of Windows 7 were sold purely to OEMs, but I imagine it is most of them, but let's be generous and say only 50% of the licenses were sold to OEMs (the other 50% being bought by system builders etc). Microsoft have sold 450 million copies of Windows 7, so by my huge amounts of guesswork, 225 million OEM sales, which equates to at most $6.75 billion (at the $30 OEM price). If we assume Windows 8 will range that same mark (since it is going to be selling on everything from workstations to tablets), and OEM pricing was cut to the $10 level (since we used $30 before), then Microsoft would "only" make $2 billion, which would make the shareholders very unhappy.

    Now, obviously this could all be hugely wrong, and so much of that relies on my vague remembering of volume prices, and sales figures etc etc etc. However, Ballmer is getting a ton of flak anyway, and while it'd be a great if Microsoft cut the price of Windows 8, I think the shareholders and investors would revolt at a 66% drop in OS revenue.

    Edited:

    I hope I am proven wrong, but Microsoft is a software company and software is how they make their money.
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  27. Post #347
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    Lol @ Vista hate. Anybody that doesn't like it is just on the fanboy train. The only reason you should ever hate Windows Vista is the horrid networking (Connecting to a wireless network is the biggest pain in the ass with Vista). Everything else - claims of slow performance, incompatibility with hardware - that's all dependent on the hardware you use - not the OS. If you were using a computer from early 2000 and Vista didn't work for you - that's probably why. I had a brand new HP desktop with 2GB of ram and a decent dual core processor with a decent discreet graphics card and I had absolutely no problems with Vista. I never bluescreened once (Except for when my 8800GT died, but that again wasn't Vista's fault).

    I hate people that claim Vista is terrible, it's really not.
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  28. Post #348
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    April 2007
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    If your computer can't handle 7 (and so Vista) you aren't going to be doing any gaming. If you aren't going to be doing any gaming then there's nothing XP can do that Linux can't do better.

    Just IMO.

    Edited:

    Also 7 is more stable than XP, I got BSODs on both, but whilst XP was random, all of my W7 BSODs pointed to a hard drive failure (which I wilfully ignored and regret doing so but that's another story).

    Since I replaced the hard drive I got not a single BSOD.
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  29. Post #349
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    Lol @ Vista hate. Anybody that doesn't like it is just on the fanboy train. The only reason you should ever hate Windows Vista is the horrid networking (Connecting to a wireless network is the biggest pain in the ass with Vista). Everything else - claims of slow performance, incompatibility with hardware - that's all dependent on the hardware you use - not the OS. If you were using a computer from early 2000 and Vista didn't work for you - that's probably why. I had a brand new HP desktop with 2GB of ram and a decent dual core processor with a decent discreet graphics card and I had absolutely no problems with Vista. I never bluescreened once (Except for when my 8800GT died, but that again wasn't Vista's fault).

    I hate people that claim Vista is terrible, it's really not.
    I've had so much grief because of vista's bloat ware i hated it, i thought my computer sucked, after i reformatted to windows vista it was still the same. then i finally tried changing to xp, and now it runs 3 times faster than before. not saying xp is the best but i am saying vista sucks
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  30. Post #350
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    I've had so much grief because of vista's bloat ware i hated it, i thought my computer sucked, after i reformatted to windows vista it was still the same. then i finally tried changing to xp, and now it runs 3 times faster than before. not saying xp is the best but i am saying vista sucks
    Agreed. I did not make my Vista assumptions (posted above) or jump on any bandwagon... Vista is a bloated turd, and always will be. And I say this from PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, people. Not what others say. Microsoft wouldn't know optimization if it bit them in the ass.
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  31. Post #351
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    Can you please explain how in the shit is it bloated
    like examples of what's unnecessary and actually slowing it down

    because the first time I've used vista was on a 2x2GHz AMD CPU, 2GB RAM and a geforce 7800GS computer and it was still faster than XP

    and no I'm not jumping on the XP hate bandwagon, it was simply faster and more stable

    maybe that's because I don't install stupid shit that slows everything down?
    I've had 7 installed on this computer since the RTM was out, and never reformatted/reinstalled/repaired it
    And it works just as good as nearly 3 years ago
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  32. Post #352
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    Vista was slow, 7 is fine. Vista was alright after the service packs
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  33. Post #353
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    Vista is like a reskinned 7 with SP2 I think
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  34. Post #354
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    August 2011
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    You (and I :< ) wished man..
    If that was true, my Vista would be quicker to boot then XP, which is the sole reason why I sometimes still use with my old hardware (if Linux can't run it or I need non-Wine compitable programs).

  35. Post #355
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    Agreed. I did not make my Vista assumptions (posted above) or jump on any bandwagon... Vista is a bloated turd, and always will be. And I say this from PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, people. Not what others say. Microsoft wouldn't know optimization if it bit them in the ass.
    Elaborate. There's programs Vista offers that they got rid of in 7 but none of them ran in the background or anything to slow your computer down. Heaven forbid you had an extra 20mb of hard drive space taken up.

    90% of what was in Vista is in 7, which by nobody's standards is "bloated".
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  36. Post #356
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    March 2007
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    Something made Vista slow, regardless if it still exists in 7
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  37. Post #357
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    I do remember a Microsoft blog post that said that Vista started it's Superfecth (remember that?) caching right at boot/log in/something, which basically made the whole log in process way slower since the HDD was being thrashed loading all these essentially irrelevant programs, and in 7 it waits a minute or two

    Edited:

    Also I think 7 (or it might be 8) is better at avoiding RAM fragmentation or something.
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  38. Post #358
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    i'm on XP because i have everything i need set up the way i need it

    upgrading to 7 would cause me many headaches and lost hours with no benefits because i have no personal reason to use 7

    this isn't a computer that i can just slap Steam onto, download all my games, install Chrome, and call it ready for use
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  39. Post #359
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    Win7 was a huge, but far from an easy step from WinXP.
    The main reason was that I could use some really cool skins and themes which I always tend to do install on different programs that I use.

  40. Post #360
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    I do remember a Microsoft blog post that said that Vista started it's Superfecth (remember that?) caching right at boot/log in/something, which basically made the whole log in process way slower since the HDD was being thrashed loading all these essentially irrelevant programs, and in 7 it waits a minute or two

    Edited:

    Also I think 7 (or it might be 8) is better at avoiding RAM fragmentation or something.
    *shrugs*

    Vista's on my brother's computer that I use occasionally and I guess because I'm always doing something else in real life or on my laptop at the same time I don't mind the log-in. I'm never in a situation where I absolutely need to log in right this second or else. Boot times being fast is pretty neat, but I don't mind unless it takes 10 minutes or something, and I haven't seen that.

    There's not much I see wrong with Vista besides the fact that there's stuff in Windows 7 I would enjoy having in Windows Vista.

    Edited:

    i'm on XP because i have everything i need set up the way i need it

    upgrading to 7 would cause me many headaches and lost hours with no benefits because i have no personal reason to use 7

    this isn't a computer that i can just slap Steam onto, download all my games, install Chrome, and call it ready for use
    I'd install Windows 7 just for ease of use with little things like the upgraded Windows Explorer. It bugs me to use Windows XP sometimes because I can't do simple things like merge folders. (If I recall, I couldn't at least. Don't remember too well.)

    Also, Windows 7 looks quite nice - especially with skins.
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