1. Post #1161
    Turbo Dyke
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    Everything on this earth is natural, care to tell me how it isn't?
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  2. Post #1162
    It was my girlfriend's friend's birthday and for some reason she wanted to go to a gaybar. It was quite a nice place actually, if you ignore the seminaked cowboys.
    Seminaked cowboys, we have that every year here in calgary, it's called the day after stampede end and everyone is drunk.
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  3. Post #1163
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    February 2009
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    Everything on this earth is natural, care to tell me how it isn't?
    I don't see how the way someone thinks can be "Un-natural". I mean if you had brain surgery to change yourself into a homosexual that might be viewed as un-natural (But that's fucking silly.)

    I guess I was Comparing physical objects to human thoughts and emotions so it wasn't a very fitting example.
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  4. Post #1164
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    August 2011
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    I like gay people, because chicks don't give you free steam gifts for flashing your genitals.
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  5. Post #1165
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    February 2007
    344 Posts
    Homosexuality is a defect of some kind, just like pedophilia.
    Humans are nothing more than advanced bacteria whos only purpose is to make more humans.

    Homosexuality does not create new humans.

    If you do not understand this or accept this truth, then you are ignorant.

    However, in todays society we are so intelligent that we outsmart the biological system in some kind of way. So I don't really see anything bad with it.

    We are also too many people in this world, so we don't need any more humans. Let the homosexuals have some fun people, peace out.
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  6. Post #1166
    foxcock
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    June 2008
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    I like gay people, because chicks don't give you free steam gifts for flashing your genitals.
    What?
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  7. Post #1167
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    July 2011
    691 Posts
    There isn't enough proof to say it's a defect, or that it isn't, as far as I know.
    So, it's possible to say: Personal preference isn't a defect.
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  8. Post #1168
    foxcock
    Bletotum's Avatar
    June 2008
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    Homosexuality is a defect of some kind, just like pedophilia.
    any mutation may be called a defect, therefore humans in general are defects, making the attribution of a purpose to mankind rather pointless

    comparing homosexuals to pedophiles can only lead to misconception and false comparisons used to fuel hatred
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  9. Post #1169
    If someone calls you a whore, salute them!
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    July 2007
    13,245 Posts
    Homosexuality is a defect of some kind, just like pedophilia.
    Humans are nothing more than advanced bacteria whos only purpose is to make more humans.

    Homosexuality does not create new humans.

    If you do not understand this or accept this truth, then you are ignorant.

    However, in todays society we are so intelligent that we outsmart the biological system in some kind of way. So I don't really see anything bad with it.

    We are also too many people in this world, so we don't need any more humans. Let the homosexuals have some fun people, peace out.
    Excuse me? How exactly can you compare homosexuality to pedophilia. Furthermore, its not a defect. There are studies that back up support for brains compared to gay men/straight women being the same size in some part that I forgot about. Not to mention there's also evidence that supports that during pregnancy, younger siblings of other males have a higher chance of being born homosexual. I call that natural, not a defect.

    And calling people ignorant for not agreeing to your completely irrational belief is what makes you ignorant.
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  10. Post #1170
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    I think defect was a poor word choice, Its just something different that ticks in peoples heads.

    The brain is a fucking confusing piece of art.
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  11. Post #1171
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    January 2010
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    Excuse me? How exactly can you compare homosexuality to pedophilia. Furthermore, its not a defect. There are studies that back up support for brains compared to gay men/straight women being the same size in some part that I forgot about. Not to mention there's also evidence that supports that during pregnancy, younger siblings of other males have a higher chance of being born homosexual. I call that natural, not a defect.

    And calling people ignorant for not agreeing to your completely irrational belief is what makes you ignorant.
    I believe he simply means that biologically an organisms goal is to survive. Organisms survive by reproducing. Reproducing can not be done when you are homosexual and is there-fore a "defect" in humans.

    But yes at this day in age who gives a shit? Being homosexual is A-Okay.
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  12. Post #1172
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    Levithan's Avatar
    September 2005
    7,773 Posts
    pedophiles are ok too

    child molesters aren't though

    not that they have to be pedophiles

    (they can be anyone)
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  13. Post #1173
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    April 2006
    4,963 Posts
    Reproducing can not be done when you are homosexual and is there-fore a "defect" in humans.
    Which isn't actually true anyway.
    As I posted before:
    http://scholarworks.uno.edu/cgi/view...t%3Decon_wp%22

    There's plenty of academic support that homosexuality aids in survival of the species, just not directly. We're a complicated species. Birth control being more common might not reduce population growth at all, despite being the most obvious way to stop the breeding mechanism. Vaccines might, entirely because longer life span of individual children causes people not to create more to reduce competition. Homosexuality might be a similar mechanism.

    Put another way, if it was a "defect", it wouldn't be a prominent part of our species.
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  14. Post #1174
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    July 2007
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    Homosexuality is a defect of some kind, just like pedophilia.
    Humans are nothing more than advanced bacteria whos only purpose is to make more humans.

    Homosexuality does not create new humans.

    If you do not understand this or accept this truth, then you are ignorant.

    However, in todays society we are so intelligent that we outsmart the biological system in some kind of way. So I don't really see anything bad with it.

    We are also too many people in this world, so we don't need any more humans. Let the homosexuals have some fun people, peace out.
    If homosexuality is a byproduct of intelligence then why is it observed in over 1500 different species

    and if it's biologically unsound, why hasn't natural selection wiped it out in these species
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  15. Post #1175
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    April 2008
    1,326 Posts
    Everything on this earth is natural, care to tell me how it isn't?
    This this this this this.

    If homosexuality is a byproduct of intelligence then why is it observed in over 1500 different species


    and if it's biologically unsound, why hasn't natural selection wiped it out in these species
    Oh and this this this this.
    Good point Zeke.
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  16. Post #1176
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    May 2008
    2,496 Posts
    This this this this this.



    Oh and this this this this.
    Good point Zeke.
    If everything on the world was natural, than what use would we have for the word 'unnatural'?
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  17. Post #1177
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    April 2008
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    If everything on the world was natural, than what use would we have for the word 'unnatural'?
    I don't know. Other shit.
    But humanity scrutinizing homosexuality because of religious stigmas doesn't make it unnatural.
    An animals sexual behavior is determined by their neurology and biochemistry. It's the same thing with us.
    This is understood by looking at things like sweat glans and pheromones.

    Cats cum all over their territory to attract females.
    If I came all over something I could say the same thing. But the observer is the one calling it unnatural in the first place.
    We create social taboos because we're assuming that we're some kind of deviation from the animal kingdom, so we let ourselves get to our head and think we can call things unnatural.
    It's not in our hands to determine whether something is inherently unnatural. If it's been occurring for thousands of years, that may be your first hint it's natural.
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  18. Post #1178
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    May 2008
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    I don't know. Other shit.
    But humanity scrutinizing homosexuality because of religious stigmas doesn't make it unnatural.
    An animals sexual behavior is determined by their neurology and biochemistry. It's the same thing with us.
    This is understood by looking at things like sweat glans and pheromones.

    Cats cum all over their territory to attract females.
    If I came all over something I could say the same thing. But the observer is the one calling it unnatural in the first place.
    We create social taboos because we're assuming that we're some kind of deviation from the animal kingdom, so we let ourselves get to our head and think we can call things unnatural.
    It's not in our hands to determine whether something is inherently unnatural. If it's been occurring for thousands of years, that may be your first hint it's natural.
    This is not the kind of argument you should be making to someone who disagrees with you, though. It's much more difficult for someone to see an entirely different way of thinking, like you're proposing, than to cater to a set of ideals they already have. Some buzzwords like 'equality' or 'equal rights' are something that everyone understands, and are ideals discussed in religious texts and even in governmental texts. Try throwing 'all men are created equal' in their faces and see how they respond.

    I think it would be perfectly alright if gay's weren't allowed to get 'married' per say, as long as they were granted partnerships with perfectly equal rights.
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  19. Post #1179
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    If everything on the world was natural, than what use would we have for the word 'unnatural'?
    Perpetual motion machines are unnatural
    So is a gopher travelling twice the speed of light
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  20. Post #1180
    foxcock
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    June 2008
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    I think it would be perfectly alright if gay's weren't allowed to get 'married'
    thanks for sharing

    your opinion doesn't matter if you don't explain it and back yourself up
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  21. Post #1181
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    I think it would be perfectly alright if gay's weren't allowed to get 'married' per say, as long as they were granted partnerships with perfectly equal rights.
    This flies in the face of equality and is in direct contradiction to the rest of your post
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  22. Post #1182
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    April 2008
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    This is not the kind of argument you should be making to someone who disagrees with you, though. It's much more difficult for someone to see an entirely different way of thinking, like you're proposing, than to cater to a set of ideals they already have. Some buzzwords like 'equality' or 'equal rights' are something that everyone understands, and are ideals discussed in religious texts and even in governmental texts. Try throwing 'all men are created equal' in their faces and see how they respond.

    I think it would be perfectly alright if gay's weren't allowed to get 'married' per say, as long as they were granted partnerships with perfectly equal rights.
    I was more focusing on the biological aspects of nature, and how they play a role in our lives.
    I wasn't trying to sway your opinion through buzz words or emotions, I was just telling you there are a lot of behaviors we have that can be attributed to the primal instinctual parts of our brain. How we instinctively respond to things. Human sexuality is just like an animal's sexuality, it's very complex. I think women bleeding out of their vaginas once a month is unnatural, but it doesn't apply to me. Just because homosexuality doesn't play a fundamental role in your life doesn't make same-sex attraction any less real for us. Periods and menstruating aren't choices, but they are the side effects of the female sexuality. Through evolution we have seen there are several deviations that can occur in a species, and something that occurred a long time ago was homosexuality. And obviously it's natural, because like Zeke said, it hasn't been weeded out of succeeding generations. And syndromes, disorders, cancers and whatnot have a likelihood of appearing in a person's life upon birth or during their lives. But that isn't too say it's going to happen. Not everyone's going to be gay/bi, just a fraction.

    And as observers, we can call something natural or not. But backwards thinking has limited a lot of progression.
    Like I think it's fucking ridiculous that gay rights is still an issue when our planet's natural resources could be used up by 2050.
    Abortion rights and gay rights are such huge topics, and I don't know why (even though I'm gay). Humanity has their heads too far stuck up their ass, and are too busy scrutinizing eachother, to handle ACTUAL issues.
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  23. Post #1183
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    -snip double post I guess-
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  24. Post #1184
    foxcock
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    June 2008
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    religious people often disagree on things, such as homosexuality
    therefore just because some christians don't believe in gay marriage, that doesn't mean that those christians get to decide whether gay people can marry, it would be up to individual churches
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  25. Post #1185
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    May 2008
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    I was more focusing on the biological aspects of nature, and how they play a role in our lives.
    I wasn't trying to sway your opinion through buzz words or emotions, I was just telling you there are a lot of behaviors we have that can be attributed to the primal instinctual parts of our brain. How we instinctively respond to things. Human sexuality is just like an animal's sexuality, it's very complex. I think women bleeding out of their vaginas once a month is unnatural, but it doesn't apply to me. Just because homosexuality doesn't play a fundamental role in your life doesn't make same-sex attraction any less real for us. Periods and menstruating aren't choices, but they are the side effects of the female sexuality. Through evolution we have seen there are several deviations that can occur in a species, and something that occurred a long time ago was homosexuality. And obviously it's natural, because like Zeke said, it hasn't been weeded out of succeeding generations. And syndromes, disorders, cancers and whatnot have a likelihood of appearing in a person's life upon birth or during their lives. But that isn't too say it's going to happen. Not everyone's going to be gay/bi, just a fraction.

    And as observers, we can call something natural or not. But backwards thinking has limited a lot of progression.
    Like I think it's fucking ridiculous that gay rights is still an issue when our planet's natural resources could be used up by 2050.
    Abortion rights and gay rights are such huge topics, and I don't know why (even though I'm gay). Humanity has their heads too far stuck up their ass, and are too busy scrutinizing eachother, to handle ACTUAL issues.
    I apologize maybe my tone was a bit too aggressive, I'm completely on your side here, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

    -Edit-

    Alright for some reason FP is messing up.

    This flies in the face of equality and is in direct contradiction to the rest of your post
    Would it have been better if I had said, "...as long as 'we' were granted partnerships..."? I'm having trouble understanding what the difference is between a partnership with completely equal rights is to that of marriage? If something like this were to happen, then there would be the social standards associated with marriage such as one adult being faithful to one partner. To me, marriage is only something associated with church and religion. Perhaps we need to separate marriage as a religious act and marriage as a legally binding contract?
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  26. Post #1186

    January 2012
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    "eew guys he touched a penis"

    Seriously, just because I have a sex life that I enjoy doesn't mean I lack basic sanitation or care.
    I'm not saying you don't but once again in the context of warfare, lets say were both in a skirmish with some insurgents. I run out of ammunition. You pass me a clip. I might not be thinking or shooting straight because I don't know if you have dickhands or not. I'm going to be thinking about what you did before this started.

    You don't have to lack sanitation or care, but what if you were in a rush. What if this skirmish started right as you were jerking someone off. Would you stop to wash your hands first? Logically no, and thats why I support don't ask don't tell. Because American troops don't need to die worrying about their squadmates hands or sexuality. Anything else is ok. I'm not a homophobe, get married, have your own little neighborhoods and parades, I just don't want it around me or my family or on TV in music, printed, taught or really talked about outside of adult circles.

    But do what makes you happy that's what life is all about!
    I really don't know if your born that way or not, I just heard Lady Gaga say it but I assume you have to be since honestly if I could switch and suck dick for hundreds to thousands of dollars as an escort or do a man without puking I'd probably do it without blinking.

    (User was banned for this post ("Trolling or something" - PLing))
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  27. Post #1187
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    I apologize maybe my tone was a bit too aggressive, I'm completely on your side here, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
    It's okay, I figured you were. :)
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  28. Post #1188
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    May 2008
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    I'm not saying you don't but once again in the context of warfare, lets say were both in a skirmish with some insurgents. I run out of ammunition. You pass me a clip. I might not be thinking or shooting straight because I don't know if you have dickhands or not. I'm going to be thinking about what you did before this started.

    You don't have to lack sanitation or care, but what if you were in a rush. What if this skirmish started right as you were jerking someone off. Would you stop to wash your hands first? Logically no, and thats why I support don't ask don't tell. Because American troops don't need to die worrying about their squadmates hands or sexuality. Anything else is ok. I'm not a homophobe, get married, have your own little neighborhoods and parades, I just don't want it around me or my family or on TV in music, printed, taught or really talked about outside of adult circles.

    But do what makes you happy that's what life is all about!
    I really don't know if your born that way or not, I just heard Lady Gaga say it but I assume you have to be since honestly if I could switch and suck dick for hundreds to thousands of dollars as an escort or do a man without puking I'd probably do it without blinking.
    The way you've made trolling seem so believable is really quite an art. I commend you for it.
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  29. Post #1189
    Turbo Dyke
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    June 2010
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    I'm not saying you don't but once again in the context of warfare, lets say were both in a skirmish with some insurgents. I run out of ammunition. You pass me a clip. I might not be thinking or shooting straight because I don't know if you have dickhands or not. I'm going to be thinking about what you did before this started.

    You don't have to lack sanitation or care, but what if you were in a rush. What if this skirmish started right as you were jerking someone off. Would you stop to wash your hands first? Logically no, and thats why I support don't ask don't tell. Because American troops don't need to die worrying about their squadmates hands or sexuality. Anything else is ok. I'm not a homophobe, get married, have your own little neighborhoods and parades, I just don't want it around me or my family or on TV in music, printed, taught or really talked about outside of adult circles.

    But do what makes you happy that's what life is all about!
    I really don't know if your born that way or not, I just heard Lady Gaga say it but I assume you have to be since honestly if I could switch and suck dick for hundreds to thousands of dollars as an escort or do a man without puking I'd probably do it without blinking.
    What does being gay have anything to do with this
    plus what makes you suddenly think the penis is dirty compared to the rest of your body
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  30. Post #1190
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    December 2011
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    I have absolutely no problem with them, in fact I know one. And he's just like anyone else.
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  31. Post #1191
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    October 2006
    1,840 Posts
    I'm not against gays and know a couple and treat them exactly as i would anyone else.

    But i am against public displays of affection, not because of their sexuality, simply because i don't like straight couples doing it either, i'm not about to stop who ever it may be, but i'd be more comfortable if it was done behind closed doors.

    That said, i find the openly gay people Very annoying.

    You're gay i understand that i don't care, but i don't need / want you to keep telling me that at every opportunity seeming as though you're after acceptance.
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  32. Post #1192
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
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    But i am against public displays of affection, not because of their sexuality, simply because i don't like straight couples doing it either, i'm not about to stop who ever it may be, but i'd be more comfortable if it was done behind closed doors.

    That said, i find the openly gay people Very annoying.

    You're gay i understand that i don't care, but i don't need / want you to keep telling me that at every opportunity seeming as though you're after acceptance.
    I like how you tried to make it seem like you just didn't like openly sexual people, but then took a jab at homosexuals specifically anyway.

    Edited:

    You're gay i understand that i don't care, but i don't need / want you to keep telling me that at every opportunity seeming as though you're after acceptance.
    Additionally, have you ever actually met anyone like this?

    Unless the exchange you're imagining is:
    A homosexual person mentions it once, you through a hissy fit because they had the audacity to mention it, and then you categorize him as 'openly gay and thus annoying'.
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  33. Post #1193
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    I'm beginning to realize that the longer this thread gets, the stupider the trolls get. Is there some correlation between length of thread and stupidity of posts/arguments?
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  34. Post #1194
    Dennab
    October 2010
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    I'm not saying you don't but once again in the context of warfare, lets say were both in a skirmish with some insurgents. I run out of ammunition. You pass me a clip. I might not be thinking or shooting straight because I don't know if you have dickhands or not. I'm going to be thinking about what you did before this started.

    You don't have to lack sanitation or care, but what if you were in a rush. What if this skirmish started right as you were jerking someone off. Would you stop to wash your hands first? Logically no, and thats why I support don't ask don't tell. Because American troops don't need to die worrying about their squadmates hands or sexuality. Anything else is ok. I'm not a homophobe, get married, have your own little neighborhoods and parades, I just don't want it around me or my family or on TV in music, printed, taught or really talked about outside of adult circles.

    But do what makes you happy that's what life is all about!
    I really don't know if your born that way or not, I just heard Lady Gaga say it but I assume you have to be since honestly if I could switch and suck dick for hundreds to thousands of dollars as an escort or do a man without puking I'd probably do it without blinking.
    If we're in a firefight and all you can think about is whether I jerked someone off or not, I think you are the one with the problem.
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  35. Post #1195
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    January 2006
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    I personally live in an area that is a "stronghold" of Gay culture within the American South and regularly encounter people who are flamboyant, foppish and generally create the typified "negative" view of homosexuality.

    That said, I also know several very respectable and homosexual individuals including on of my Professors.

    The issue comes down to the fact that a loud portion of heterosexual people fear the percieved image of the "wanton homosexual" who doesn't have any sense of balance or decorum about themselves; IE wearing pink leather chaps and saying darling while groping innocents in the streets. This image has few things currently combatting it, and even the lable "homosexual" often implies a deal of infidelity, scandal or degeneracy.

    Of course, this is primarily an American phenomenom. Other countries where Homosexuality is openly allowed (embraced is a difficult word, give me a moment), primarily in the "enlightened" arc of Europe do not seem to have deviants running amoc, raping their boys and seducing their daughters. However, at the same time, American repressionism tends towards the mainstream enforcing itself on the fringe. (The converse is that European repressionism is the Fringe attempting to supress the rest.)

    A good example is comparitively the stereotyped 1950s versus the current 2000s. While the breadth of the mainstream is wider and many of the boundaries have changed both actually have many paralells in regards to things that are still considered "wildly taboo." Racism, Facism, Homosexuality, Provincialism, Exceptionalism, Industrialism and other "creeds" that are not generally Cosmopolitan, Corporate, Christian or Clean are all attacked rigorously by the majority of the population.

    When I say majority by the way, I do not mean Occupiers, Teapartiers, Celebrities or Politicians but President Nixon's golden "Silent Majority." As it stands, the observable invisible silent majority sees no reason to pull for the fringes, as the Civil Rights movement or the America Out! movements did.

    So, you have the publicly percieved and easily produced "loud, annoying, faggy" homosexual playing against the concious and active fears of the current primary majority. Since the primary majority does little to leave its comfort zone, and the homosexual community does little to advance itself (and to an extent cannot do much given the enormous social roadblocks!) we have what is "wrong" with "gays."



    *Additional comment: Any commentary relating to the origins, developments, reasons and faculties behind Homosexuality as a natural/unatural behavior are difficult. If you take the time to observe studies relative to it, you'll find many are often admittedly flawed, reversed, biased, overgrown-relative-to-sample-size or counter-evidenced. Of course though, when we get word of mouth or absorb a percieved fact we refuse to let it go until we have the origin of our bias obliterated and that itself is the most difficult thing an argument can mount. It is sadly not a particularly crucial field of human behavioral science and often the only practitioners of the research are crusaders or inquistives rather than the invested and investigative body of eager researchers who produce the "wonders" of the world. Seriously, we have cancer to cure, we can figure out why fireman calenders make you feel funny later.
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  36. Post #1196
    MEGA SENPAI KAWAII UGUU~~ =^_^=
    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
    14,486 Posts
    I'm not saying you don't but once again in the context of warfare, lets say were both in a skirmish with some insurgents. I run out of ammunition. You pass me a clip. I might not be thinking or shooting straight because I don't know if you have dickhands or not. I'm going to be thinking about what you did before this started.

    You don't have to lack sanitation or care, but what if you were in a rush. What if this skirmish started right as you were jerking someone off. Would you stop to wash your hands first? Logically no, and thats why I support don't ask don't tell. Because American troops don't need to die worrying about their squadmates hands or sexuality. Anything else is ok. I'm not a homophobe, get married, have your own little neighborhoods and parades, I just don't want it around me or my family or on TV in music, printed, taught or really talked about outside of adult circles.

    But do what makes you happy that's what life is all about!
    I really don't know if your born that way or not, I just heard Lady Gaga say it but I assume you have to be since honestly if I could switch and suck dick for hundreds to thousands of dollars as an escort or do a man without puking I'd probably do it without blinking.
    So you think about that? What if a straight soldier was jerking himself off before this hypothetical firefight? It's no different, and the problem you've created for yourself out of fear and homophobia would slow only you down.

    Edited:

    The issue comes down to the fact that a loud portion of heterosexual people fear the percieved image of the "wanton homosexual" who doesn't have any sense of balance or decorum about themselves; IE wearing pink leather chaps and saying darling while groping innocents in the streets. This image has few things currently combatting it, and even the lable "homosexual" often implies a deal of infidelity, scandal or degeneracy.
    Well here's your problem. Whenever a homosexual mentions anything having to do with relationships or really just anything that remotely has to do with homosexuality they're 'being open about it' or 'fulfilling the stereotype', but if a straight person does the same, nothing is thought of it. As for your example of indecency or degeneracy, do you apply the same thought process for extravagantly or deviantly dressed heterosexuals during events like mardi gras? And even if you do, why should it in any way impact what rights these groups have in the public world?
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    Well here's your problem. Whenever a homosexual mentions anything having to do with relationships or really just anything that remotely has to do with homosexuality they're 'being open about it' or 'fulfilling the stereotype', but if a straight person does the same, nothing is thought of it. As for your example of indecency or degeneracy, do you apply the same thought process for extravagantly or deviantly dressed heterosexuals during events like mardi gras? And even if you do, why should it in any way impact what rights these groups have in the public world?
    The majority defines degeneracy and flamboyance. It's also the issue of majority has freedom of comfortable inconsistancy. There is a boundary of deviation that the standard heterosexual can leave and still be a moral person. Since the homosexual is already a deviant however, they are expected to maintain the vestiges of their morality if they wish to argue their position as "normal." Rights regardless, if somehow society could be convienently engineered to allow the reverse, the "feared wanton" heterosexual would be barbaric and cavemannish, grabbing members of the opposite cohort for sole reasons of pleasure and sustenance and an inexplicable social structure that defines gender roles. As such, their "Terrible married life" would be suspect to legal blocks and outrage, even if it truely makes the wives happy and the husbands prosperous.
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    The majority defines degeneracy and flamboyance. It's also the issue of majority has freedom of comfortable inconsistancy. There is a boundary of deviation that the standard heterosexual can leave and still be a moral person.
    Says who? Who is setting these limitations and rules?
    Since the homosexual is already a deviant however, they are expected to maintain the vestiges of their morality if they wish to argue their position as "normal."
    This is an assumption, not based on fact. The idea that homosexuality is deviant and immoral comes from Abrahamic religions, it is not based on human nature.
    Rights regardless, if somehow society could be convienently engineered to allow the reverse, the "feared wanton" heterosexual would be barbaric and cavemannish, grabbing members of the opposite cohort for sole reasons of pleasure and sustenance and an inexplicable social structure that defines gender roles. As such, their "Terrible married life" would be suspect to legal blocks and outrage, even if it truely makes the wives happy and the husbands prosperous.
    Yes, much like the old caricature of a black man aggressively having his way with a white woman that was perpetuated so long ago. Thank god we did away with that and moved forward, yeah?
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    The who is the silent majority, who are infact currently possessed of a standard western religion. To argue practically, you must have them in mind.

    And yes, thank god we traded that image in for sneering chinese industrialists profiteering off of starving factory drones. Each generation finds its bias.
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    The who is the silent majority, who are infact currently possessed of a standard western religion. To argue practically, you must have them in mind.
    Can't well argue with something that is merely assumed to exist. Obviously heterosexuals are in the majority as far as it goes, but the idea that you're either 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual is a false one, so I don't know if it applies in the traditional sense of a 'majority'. Also, by "standard western religion", are you referring to Christianity? If so, I have no reason to pander to bigots, and neither should anyone else.

    And yes, thank god we traded that image in for sneering chinese industrialists profiteering off of starving factory drones. Each generation finds its bias.
    At a certain point we'll run out or reach a point where it ends up so ridiculous that no one takes it seriously.
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