1. Post #1
    Jsm
    "Belgium is pretty much a non-country"
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    June 2006
    8,018 Posts
    This is interesting, and possibly rather dangerous. The entire lot is (apparently) available on the internet after someone released a key. Wikileaks are accusing the Guardian, they are denying it.
    The dangerous bit IMO is the fact that they not redacted.

    The Guardian posted:
    A security breach has led to the WikiLeaks archive of 251,000 secret US diplomatic cables being made available online, without redaction to protect sources.


    WikiLeaks has been releasing the cables over nine months by partnering with mainstream media organisations.


    Selected cables have been published without sensitive information that could lead to the identification of informants or other at-risk individuals.


    The US government warned last year that such a release could lead to US informants, human rights activists and others being placed at risk of harm or detention.


    A Twitter user has now published a link to the full, unredacted database of embassy cables. The user is believed to have found the information after acting on hints
    published in several media outlets and on the WikiLeaks Twitter feed, all of which cited a member of rival whistleblowing website OpenLeaks as the original source of the
    tipoffs.


    The Guardian, New York Times, Der Spiegel, Le Monde and El Pais were the first five news organisations to publish stories based on the documents, allegedly leaked by US
    soldier Bradley Manning, in December 2010.


    WikiLeaks published a statement blaming the documents' release on the Guardian's book WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy, by investigations editor David Leigh and Luke Harding, published in February 2011.


    The statement, released on WikiLeaks's official Twitter feed, alleged: "A Guardian journalist has, in a previously undetected act of gross negligence or malice, and in violation of a signed security agreement with the Guardian's editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger, disclosed top secret decryption passwords to the entire, unredacted, WikiLeaks Cablegate archive. We have already spoken to the state department and commenced pre-litigation action. We will issue a formal statement in due course." The Guardian denies WikiLeaks's allegations.


    WikiLeaks said it contacted the US state department on 25 August to warn that the full publication of cables may be imminent and to check whether the department's programme to notify those named in the documents had been completed. Julian Assange was said to have had a 75 minute phone conversation with Cliff Johnson, a legal advisor at the department, but was refused a face-to-face meeting to exchange further information.


    The embassy cables were shared with the Guardian through a secure server for a period of hours, after which the server was taken offline and all files removed, as was previously agreed by both parties. This is considered a basic security precaution when handling sensitive files. But unknown to anyone at the Guardian, the same file with the same password was republished later on BitTorrent, a network typically used to distribute films and music. This file's contents were never publicised, nor was it linked online to WikiLeaks in any way.


    A statement from the Guardian said: "It's nonsense to suggest the Guardian's WikiLeaks book has compromised security in any way.

    "Our book about WikiLeaks was published last February. It contained a password, but no details of the location of the files, and we were told it was a temporary password which would expire and be deleted in a matter of hours.

    "It was a meaningless piece of information to anyone except the person(s) who created the database.

    "No concerns were expressed when the book was published and if anyone at WikiLeaks had thought this compromised security they have had seven months to remove the files. That they didn't do so clearly shows the problem was not caused by the Guardian's book."


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-cables-online

    This could get interesting, Wikileaks are considering dumping them all onto their site (and various systems of viewing them) because they are out there.
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  2. Post #2
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    What are some highlights here? I really do not want to read through 251,000 memos.
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  3. Post #3
    Jsm
    "Belgium is pretty much a non-country"
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    June 2006
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    What are some highlights here? I really do not want to read through 251,000 memos.
    I think it will be a couple of days before anyone finds anything interesting if they are indeed out in the open.
    Keeping an eye on the usual media outlets that have been covering this might be a wise idea.

  4. Post #4
    Cuntsman's Avatar
    November 2010
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    This is great, hopefully it will shed more light onto the corrupt US government.
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    Hello, my name is Penis. Please refer to me as such. I'm totally cool with it.
    SPESSMEHREN's Avatar
    November 2009
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    Oh lol, could that possibly be that AES-256 key on that torrent?
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  6. Post #6
    Zero Hour's Avatar
    July 2011
    810 Posts
    Oh wow, well alot of people are going to be in alot of trouble.

  7. Post #7
    Zambies!'s Avatar
    August 2009
    8,258 Posts
    Oh SHIT.

  8. Post #8
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    July 2010
    11,828 Posts
    What's that wikileaks?
    Leaks are not fun?

    in a previously undetected act of gross negligence or malice, and in violation of a signed security agreement
    How exactly did you come by that information, again?

    Pot kettle black.
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  9. Post #9
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    June 2006
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    What's that wikileaks?
    Leaks are not fun?
    When did Wikileaks ever claim even in the slightest that leaking sensitive diplomatic material is fun? Furthermore I find it particularly audacious that you're implying that the leaks with redactions (which, in theory at least, should protect the [relatively] innocent) and the leaks without redactions that could actually put people in harm's way are even in the same continent of wrong.

  10. Post #10
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    September 2009
    6,283 Posts
    Mankind has never disappointed with the ability to fuck things up eh? Let's just hope they can pull out any active informants in time.

  11. Post #11
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    Dennab
    February 2009
    3,687 Posts
    Leaked articles without sources or with sensitive information can be very dangerous.

    What if a non-reliable article is found that gives incriminating evidence for a group that is perfectly innocent?

  12. Post #12
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    April 2009
    4,352 Posts
    This is great, hopefully it will shed more light onto the corrupt US government.
    This isn't very good considering there current state. A lot of people could be in trouble now.

  13. Post #13
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    IdiotStorm's Avatar
    December 2008
    3,755 Posts
    This is great, hopefully it will shed more light onto the corrupt US government.
    just because the government censors stuff to protect in service agents from getting killed doesn't mean they are corrupt

  14. Post #14
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    January 2006
    2,038 Posts
    Let's see how this plays out.


    I'm also reminded of the phrase "Freedom isn't Free" for some reason this morning.

  15. Post #15
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    December 2009
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    This is great, hopefully it will shed more light onto the corrupt US government.
    Yes, lets just show how much we gossip about other countries cause thats what the original cables did really.

  16. Post #16
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    January 2006
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    Yes, lets just show how much we gossip about other countries cause thats what the original cables did really.
    Well yeah, but now the whole fucking thing is available, without Wikileak's own censorship. It could include a lot more, a lot, LOT more.

  17. Post #17
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
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    This would, in a world run by Bob Page and Versalife, be a good way to make people think Wikileaks is dangerous and should be shut down.

  18. Post #18
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    January 2006
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    This would, in a world run by Bob Page and Versalife, be a good way to make people think Wikileaks is dangerous and should be shut down.
    But if you read the news article, Wikileak's didn't release the unredacted cables, the UK's Guardian did.

  19. Post #19
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    June 2011
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    But if you read the news article, Wikileak's didn't release the unredacted cables, the UK's Guardian did.
    Politicians pointing fingers at a technology they usually don't understand aren't the brightest of people, they'll find a way to worm this way to Wikileaks.
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    Gay for BDA
    angelangel's Avatar
    November 2005
    8,454 Posts
    This is great, hopefully it will shed more light onto the corrupt US government.
    yeah maybe it will reveal secrets of the illuminati and the new world order!!!!
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  21. Post #21
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    December 2009
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    Well yeah, but now the whole fucking thing is available, without Wikileak's own censorship. It could include a lot more, a lot, LOT more.
    I wonder if we think the English Royal family is inbred

  22. Post #22
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    July 2011
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    This is bad. I'm all for Wikileaks and the cable leaks, but without censoring names to protect informants, people will die. This is something both the US government and Wikileaks agreed with.

  23. Post #23
    Map in a box's Avatar
    July 2009
    7,353 Posts
    I don't know why they had this in their possession to start with, tbh

  24. Post #24
    Jsm
    "Belgium is pretty much a non-country"
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    June 2006
    8,018 Posts
    But if you read the news article, Wikileak's didn't release the unredacted cables, the UK's Guardian did.
    It seems to be an employee of the Guardian and not the Guardian itself.

  25. Post #25
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    December 2009
    1,498 Posts
    Holy shit I feel bad for the people that submitted those 250,000 leaks. Guaranteed they're on a government watchlist AT THE LEAST.

  26. Post #26
    Jsm
    "Belgium is pretty much a non-country"
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    June 2006
    8,018 Posts
    Oh lol, could that possibly be that AES-256 key on that torrent?
    No its the key to the stuff sent to the media. The insurance file is apparently bigger.

    Edited:

    Holy shit I feel bad for the people that submitted those 250,000 leaks. Guaranteed they're on a government watchlist AT THE LEAST.
    The one person (allegedly) responsible for leaking the documents is sitting in jail at the moment...