1. Post #241
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    I think some of these would be a fitting punishment for this guy:

    http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-...rture-devices/
    Holy fuck, if you ever actually plan to follow through with these, you're a hands-down psychopath. And not in the good way, either!

    You would actually force the Pear on him!? You sick fuck!

    Edited:

    I think some of these would be a fitting punishment for this guy:

    http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-...rture-devices/
    Holy fuck, if you ever actually plan to follow through with these, you're a hands-down psychopath. And not in the good way, either!

    You would actually force the Pear on him!? You sick fuck!
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  2. Post #242
    Fire Fucker
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    Whatever, I concede. I don't see any of you changing your opinions because they're influenced by emotion, not logic.

    So, consider yourself won, whatever you like, I'm done arguing.
    Removing someone from the system because they are violent, and are likely to remain so is a decision influenced by emotion? Shooting down someones opinion because you don't agree is annoying.
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  3. Post #243
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    Removing someone from the system because they are violent, and are likely to remain so is a decision influenced by emotion? Shooting down someones opinion because you don't agree is annoying.
    Fine. I fundamentally disagree but you are free to have your opinion.

    Better?
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  4. Post #244
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    Fine. I fundamentally disagree but you are free to have your opinion.

    Better?
    Yes it is
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  5. Post #245
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    had his throat slashed in prison.

    Andrew Randall, 37, screamed in agony as he was also stabbed in both eyes by a fellow lag.
    Lol. Oh well.

  6. Post #246
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    Lol. Oh well.
    How do you scream with a slashed throat? It'd come out as a primal gurgle, if anything.
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  7. Post #247
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    good that he survived, he gets to feel pain and might get stabbed again
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  8. Post #248
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    good that he survived, he gets to feel pain and might get stabbed again
    you're a nut! you're crazy in the coconut!
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  9. Post #249
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    Just read some fucking post here that said he should have the most pain possible, and I'm thinking what he fuck am I even supposed to say to that? "Yea, lets horribly mutilate the guy who got his throat cut and survived it!"? Are you serious?

    It seems to me that most people on here don't realize that that is pretty much what that other guy wanted, I imagine that suffering a fatal injury and not dying is pretty FUCKING painful. He got his throat cut. His fucking throat. This is not something you're supposed to survive. And especially not while you're getting stabbed in the eyes. You want more pain for this guy?

    Wow.

    I'm probably the only one that doesn't actually feel burning hatred for this guy. I don't know this guy, neither do any of you. You all just read a news article and now you're screaming and shouting for the torture of someone you don't know ANYTHING about. A guy that had his fucking throat cut in prison. You cannot be serious.
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  10. Post #250
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    I do feel for the man, as nobody should feel unnecessary pain. Though doing what he did to his daighter I am not that surprised actually that this happened. Though I will say what he did was wrong in every conceivable way.

  11. Post #251
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    Prisons need to get their shit together, but it is extremely hard to feel sorry for this guy.
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  12. Post #252

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    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind guys....
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  13. Post #253
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    Just read some fucking post here that said he should have the most pain possible, and I'm thinking what he fuck am I even supposed to say to that? "Yea, lets horribly mutilate the guy who got his throat cut and survived it!"? Are you serious?

    It seems to me that most people on here don't realize that that is pretty much what that other guy wanted, I imagine that suffering a fatal injury and not dying is pretty FUCKING painful. He got his throat cut. His fucking throat. This is not something you're supposed to survive. And especially not while you're getting stabbed in the eyes. You want more pain for this guy?

    Wow.

    I'm probably the only one that doesn't actually feel burning hatred for this guy. I don't know this guy, neither do any of you. You all just read a news article and now you're screaming and shouting for the torture of someone you don't know ANYTHING about. A guy that had his fucking throat cut in prison. You cannot be serious.
    Not everybody hates him as much as that sick fuck with the torture devices up there.

    In fact, some of us are totally neutral to the situation (I still don't fucking care).
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  14. Post #254
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    In fact, some of us are totally neutral to the situation (I still don't fucking care).
    You sure are posting a lot for a guy who doesn't care.
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  15. Post #255
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    You sure are posting a lot for a guy who doesn't care.
    I don't care because I'm neutral to it. This is an interesting dilemma, and until I reach my own conclusions based upon the information this thread is providing, I will remain neutral to it.

    And you've rated me dumb again. Is there a reason you do this to everybody who disagrees with you?

  16. Post #256
    Ms. Andry
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    And you've rated me dumb again. Is there a reason you do this to everybody who disagrees with you?
    I'm making my opinion of your post known without going through the trouble of insulting you. It's the same reason people use any other rating (which each carry their own implications).
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  17. Post #257
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    I'm making my opinion of your post known without going through the trouble of insulting you. It's the same reason people use any other rating (which each carry their own implications).
    Well, you could just use the Disagree rating. Y'know, the one designed for disagreeing.

  18. Post #258
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    How about you just say something useful instead of trying to insult him in the easiest way possible? Making a point against his statement would be an idea. Or telling him why you disagree. Or just saying "I don't think so." Instead of trying to insult him as a way of "making your opinion known". That's pretty weak.

    I meant Sanius.
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  19. Post #259
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    How about you just say something useful instead of trying to insult him in the easiest way possible? Making a point against his statement would be an idea. Or telling him why you disagree. Or just saying "I don't think so." Instead of trying to insult him as a way of "making your opinion known". That's pretty weak.

    I meant Sanius.
    I'm also all for not being insulted in general.

  20. Post #260
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    I don't have anything against insults, they come pretty handy once one side stops arguing, but I feel that as long as there are valid points to be made, they shouldn't be exchanged for insults.

  21. Post #261
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    I don't have anything against insults, they come pretty handy once one side stops arguing, but I feel that as long as there are valid points to be made, they shouldn't be exchanged with insults.
    If the insults are funny, they're fine. I guess.

    I still don't like being insulted, even if it does often reveal my opponent's stupidity.

  22. Post #262
    WoW YoU SuRe aRe Co0l!!
    well Sanius, he did rape and kill a fucking BABY.

    I think some of these would be a fitting punishment for this guy:

    http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-...rture-devices/
    Stop.

  23. Post #263
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    well Sanius, he did rape and kill a fucking BABY.



    Stop.
    Bloody Hell that list was weird. And I read through the whole thing.

    The Inquisitors were awfully interested in the torturee's breasts, weren't they? I'd have thought that they'd be accusing old hags, not lusty maidens in their twenties.
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  24. Post #264
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    that's what usually happens to child abusers in prison, which is why they have their own block in some of them
    Jeffrey Dahmers head was bashed in with a weight, I'm pretty sure no one cared, good thing of course.
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  25. Post #265
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    Jeffrey Dahmers head was bashed in with a weight, I'm pretty sure no one cared, good thing of course.
    Funny how the mindset of a potential serial killer becomes socially acceptable when dealing with people who are scolded by society.
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  26. Post #266
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    usually eye-for-eye punishment is very uncalled for especially when it's a death sentence for something where the person who committed the crime is perfectly sane and knows what he did and did so on purpose (i.e. someone who can be rehabilitated)

    this guy was just a sick, insane fuck and deserved it
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  27. Post #267
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    In the UK, life doesn't usually mean life. But this guy was given a whole life sentence. He will never leave prison
    its not just a life sentence but a WHOLE life sentence

  28. Post #268
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    usually eye-for-eye punishment is very uncalled for especially when it's a death sentence for something where the person who committed the crime is perfectly sane and knows what he did and did so on purpose (i.e. someone who can be rehabilitated)

    this guy was just a sick, insane fuck and deserved it
    Eye-for-Eye is a system that doesn't work, no matter where it applies, or if it applies, because once it is enforced, it creates an infinite chain of victims. If you want Eye-for-Eye, go kill all life and yourself.
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  29. Post #269
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    Jeffrey Dahmers head was bashed in with a weight, I'm pretty sure no one cared, good thing of course.
    not really, prisons are made with a dual purpose; rehabilitation and isolation
    rehabilitation is so that a criminal can reintergrate into society
    isolation is so that the criminal is separated from society while he is still a threat

    what I'm trying to say is, bashing in ones head with a weight kind of fucks up the first point

  30. Post #270
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    I think some of these would be a fitting punishment for this guy:

    http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-...rture-devices/
    The crocodile shears was an instrument of torture used in late medieval Europe and typically reserved for regicides – those who attempted (and, perhaps, succeeded) to assassinate the king. The shears were made of iron and were based upon the concept of pincers, but—instead of standard jaws or blades, crocodile shears ended in a pair of hemicylindrical blades that, when closed together, formed a long, narrow tube. The insides of the blades were generously lined with teeth or spikes. After being heated red-hot, the crocodile shears were applied to the erect penis, which—once exposed to sufficient tension—was torn from the prisoner’s body; or at the very least leading to severe arterial bleeding.

    Good lord, I may actually cry.

  31. Post #271
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    not really, prisons are made with a dual purpose; rehabilitation and isolation
    rehabilitation is so that a criminal can reintergrate into society
    isolation is so that the criminal is separated from society while he is still a threat

    what I'm trying to say is, bashing in ones head with a weight kind of fucks up the first point
    Getting beaten, slashed, or killed in prison defeats the entire point of sentencing them to anything.
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  32. Post #272
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    The crocodile shears was an instrument of torture used in late medieval Europe and typically reserved for regicides – those who attempted (and, perhaps, succeeded) to assassinate the king. The shears were made of iron and were based upon the concept of pincers, but—instead of standard jaws or blades, crocodile shears ended in a pair of hemicylindrical blades that, when closed together, formed a long, narrow tube. The insides of the blades were generously lined with teeth or spikes. After being heated red-hot, the crocodile shears were applied to the erect penis, which—once exposed to sufficient tension—was torn from the prisoner’s body; or at the very least leading to severe arterial bleeding.

    Good lord, I may actually cry.
    And yet you wish that upon this guy?

  33. Post #273
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    I hope he dies in the most painful way possible.

    I actually want him to experience as much pain as livable but as painful as possible before he dies, you know what? No, he can just experience the first part, but not die.

    That poor baby girl.
    Getting your troat slashed and becoming blind from getting your eyes punctured out wasn't enough? Holy shit.

  34. Post #274
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    Stabbed in the eye and slashed in the throat is a little severe but this man does deserve death.
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  35. Post #275
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    Stabbed in the eye and slashed in the throat is a little severe but this man does deserve death.
    No he does not.
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  36. Post #276
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    No he does not.
    Let me explain this. He raped, tortured, and killed his 7 week old baby. I'm not saying he should be tortured or have a slow painful death but a crime like that is too horrid to be solved by throwing him in prison for life. Why have him in for life if there is no chance to rehabilitate him?
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  37. Post #277
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    Let me explain this. He raped, tortured, and killed his 7 week old baby. I'm not saying he should be tortured or have a slow painful death but a crime like that is too horrid to be solved by throwing him in prison for life. Why have him in for life if there is no chance to rehabilitate him?
    How do you want to know whether or not there's a chance to rehabilitate him? I love how everyone on FP that is for Death Penalty seems to have a master degree in psychology, you don't know this guy, you don't know shit about his psyche, you don't know whether or not he can be rehabilitated.

    Also, I find it funny that you assume that once a crime is too "horrid" in your opinion, a prison sentence will not solve it? Solve what? The only thing that can be solved is his mental condition, and you sure as fuck don't solve that by killing him.
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  38. Post #278
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    Let me explain this. He raped, tortured, and killed his 7 week old baby. I'm not saying he should be tortured or have a slow painful death but a crime like that is too horrid to be solved by throwing him in prison for life. Why have him in for life if there is no chance to rehabilitate him?
    You're not a criminal psychologist. You have no qualifications to say that he can't be rehabilitated.
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  39. Post #279
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    How do you want to know whether or not there's a chance to rehabilitate him? I love how everyone on FP that is for Death Penalty seems to have a master degree in psychology, you don't know this guy, you don't know shit about his psyche, you don't know whether or not he can be rehabilitated.

    Also, I find it funny that you assume that once a crime is too "horrid" in your opinion, a prison sentence will not solve it? Solve what? The only thing that can be solved is his mental condition, and you sure as fuck don't solve that by killing him.
    Everyone sees it differently so I'm not going to keep repeating the same things about why the man should recieve the death sentence. All I have to say is the man is a waste of human life and he should pay the price for killing. If you have any ideas for solving his mental condition I'm all for it.

    Edited:

    You're not a criminal psychologist. You have no qualifications to say that he can't be rehabilitated.
    And neither are you. Your not even stating reasons, just saying "No your wrong."
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  40. Post #280
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    How do you want to know whether or not there's a chance to rehabilitate him? I love how everyone on FP that is for Death Penalty seems to have a master degree in psychology, you don't know this guy, you don't know shit about his psyche, you don't know whether or not he can be rehabilitated.

    Also, I find it funny that you assume that once a crime is too "horrid" in your opinion, a prison sentence will not solve it? Solve what? The only thing that can be solved is his mental condition, and you sure as fuck don't solve that by killing him.
    He didn't just rape and kill a baby, he raped and killed his own BABY DAUGHTER.

    Do you understand how fucked up in the head you have to be to kill a baby? This guy is that multiplied by a thousand. He literally has no emotions and doesn't care that he did this.

    There is no rehabilitating him, no chance what so ever, no one in society will accept him even if he was rehabilitated.
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