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Depends on which band they get assigned to. If you get assigned to the band in okinawa, well there you are in japan. All the bands do a lot of touring, so you could find yourself playing in some ball in germany.
All marines get trained in weapon usage, all marines get trained as riflemen. Thats why people who aren't specifically trained as infantry can be sent as infantry.
Liberty just called, so I'm going to head out for a bit. I'll be back on later to answere more question.
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You'll probably have it waived off. You won't be able to shit like, Chemicals, Bomb Disposal or piloting
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Do you wear BCGs?
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How did you prepare (fitness wise) for your role?
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What was your ASVAB score (unless that's too personal of a question) and what is the average score?
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Throughout your military career, which branch seemed to have the chillest people?
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all of them
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How's Marine living space. Are you able to PC game from time to time when you're not working. (heh may sound like a stupid question but when you've gamed all of your life it's something you'd want to know)
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Well, the general purpose of a military is to kill for whatever reason it has at the time. How do you get pride from an organisation that is supposed to kill people?
Tight bond and benefits I can understand, you're in a group of like minded individuals, some of whom go through very difficult things. But Honour and pride?
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Combat has been a method of obtaining honor and pride since the beginning of time. Plus it is not all about killing people. It is also about saving people.
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by killing people?
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The military has other functions yeah, but the general purpose is to kill
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Simple question, how do Officers that go in as a doctor get "placed"? Not like a "combat medic" or whatever, but one who doesn't go out on the front lines.
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I've been considering joining the Army Rangers for quite some time now. I'm in decent shape, could be better, but I was wondering if you had any mental tips on how to get through RAP or Ranger School.
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the Marines are downsizing their forces by 50,000 something thousand. If you're looking into becoming and enlisted Marine, work as hard as you can, get in as best shape as you can, just push yourself. Its harder than ever to get a closer ship date to boot, so the best/ most qualified are getting their first "dibs". Im currently DEP'd in my shipdate is on Nov 21st, with the MOS of 1371 Combat Engineer
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I don't view every human life as sacred and I so I guess I am not seeing your point.
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How do they considered someone in the more qualified area for a closer ship date besides maybe asvab scores.
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You don't view every life as sacred?
Please tell me what goes into your determination of whether someone is worthy of being "sacred" or not.
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people with the best/ most improved PFT and IST, i should've worded it better
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There's your problem. It's okay to take pride from killing people
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I just mean if there's a fucking lunatic I won't shed a tear over his death. I'm not saying hohoho fuck the people suffering in North Korea etc. Pretty basic views in that regard, I think.
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Unless you're equating the people you're fighting with lunatics, what does that have to do with fighting in the military?
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Not necessarily what I'm saying. I just don't think it is wrong to feel accomplished in killing people trying to kill your friend and yourself and in turn saving your friends. Taking pride in killing unarmed people is on the more fucked side of my scale.
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What does that have to do with the military?
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But if you put yourself into a conflict, and you are threatened, is it okay to feel pride for killing someone?
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I was just trying to say it's not too crazy to feel a sense of accpmlishment when it comes to saving fellow troops and surviving. It is just human nature.
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what? no it isn't.
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The pride isn't coming from killing people...it's coming from serving and defending your country, most people don't join the military because they want to kill people.
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General purpose of the military is to defend a country and it's citizens from threats and risk their own lives while doing so, that's the honorable part, killing is just the most efficient way of doing it.
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That's what I'm trying to say, I guess I failed. :(
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Sweet, I was born in the Naval hospital there.
What helicopter do you want to work on? My uncle was an Army crew chief for 25 years, He says it's a rewarding job.
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How is it not? It seems pretty instinct primal basic down to the core to me. Observe humanity and its past.
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I'm not saying they join to kill people. Never said that.
However, when you look at the concept compared to what actually happens. The US military doesn't really defend itself anymore, ie Iraq.
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It's not instinct to put yourself into conflict, then pretend there is pride in killing people when you succeed.
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Alot of people think what we're doing in Iraq is a good thing, it's highly debatable and not the subject of this thread and I really don't feel like arguing about it, all I will say is a lot of horrible things have happened over there, but a lot of good has as well, I know some guys who came back from there that have a lot to be proud of,
You also have to remember people don't join the military specifically to go to Iraq, there are a lot of people who don't agree with the war in Iraq that still sign up because they want to be there in case of some larger threat down the road.
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when it comes down to it, infantry fights for their country, they know what they're doing, but someone has to do it. Almost everywhere people argue about people killing other people just because they have different thoughts on something, it's true its wrong to an extent, but we're doing it so everyone else can have their freedoms. (not current war in Afghanistan)
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Who, since WW2 has even moderately threatened the freedoms of Americans?
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Soviet Russia is the big one that comes to mind, we could get into the semantics over various terrorist organizations/rogue states, they don't necessarily pose a threat to the country as a whole, but they can cause mass casualty hit and run events, but again I don't really want to argue over it.
And it's not necessarily about the freedoms of Americans, Libya is no threat to the freedoms of the US, but we're involved there, same with Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, all the places that had UN operations going in them, I've spoken to alot of people involved with KFOR in Kosovo who haven't killed or shot at anyone, they're happy to know that they helped out people in need.
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lots of people actually, but anyone who actually succeeded? nobody.
lets change the subject, because either way its just like hitting a brick wall repeatedly, everyone has their opinions on the war currently going on.
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UncleJimmema, when did you swear in at MEPS?
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How do you come to the conclusion that army is usefull?
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It is? A country needs an army to protect itself.
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Most issues are created by the US government through crappy foreign policy. It's their catch-22.
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From what? If their foreign policy isn't shit, they don't really need a military.
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I wholeheartedly agree especially when it comes to Afghanistan and Bin Laden, but the threat still remains,
trust me, I would much rather have a world where everything is settled with peaceful negotiations, but I don't think that will ever happen in our life time,
I mean as we both know, FEMA Is gonna put us in camps and kill us all by 2012 anyway..
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and I agree, but the issue is, a lot of the problems can be avoided easily if the people just knew and didn't give in.
so it's better to question it and try not to just give in. I'll give credit where it's due, but in the grand scheme of things, you should question things. I think Americans are a bit to eager to support unjust things and are surprised at the blowback. I mean, it's gotten so bad that the CIA has to evaluate blowback for their past actions.
(Also, completely unrelated question, where the hell is your avatar from? I swear I've seen that.)
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Because humans aren't perfect and you can't please everyone, I'm sure all the wars on the world that happened through out human history haven't happened due to bad foreign policies, a country, no matter how good at politics they are, can't survive without armies because human nature and history has shown that that's not possible.
I'm don't disagree with you when it comes to America fucking it up, but that's yet another reason why countries need armies, to defend themselves from other countries that fuck it up.
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