1. Post #1
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    Well, I have a minor weight issue. Ever since I got my first computer about 5 years ago I slowly gained weight. My self esteem and confidence has gradually decreased, making me depressed every time I think about it. I am currently 6'4 and 17 years old, and 250lbs.

    Sad thing is I am allergic to most if not all fresh fruits and tree nuts. I don't know why the fuck I am. I watch what I eat and I do not eat candy or ice cream. I don't have a eating problem.

    I'm not obese, but I do have some chunk around the torso, mostly just the effects of sitting for a while. It's hard to type this because it's so embarrassing.

    My question is how do I lose as much weight as possible in a short period? Short period because I'm tired of being overweight, I just want to be normal.

    This is getting old and trying to hide it is just getting older.


    Please only sincere replies only as I am easily effected by what people say about me.

  2. Post #2
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    You should try lifting or cardio. Get out and maybe join a school sports team. Start exercising regularly. If diet isn't the problem it's lack of activity.

    If you want to start lifting you can start asking questions at the weightlifting thread and there'll be plenty of people there to help you make a schedule to get you started. (you will almost definitely get some sort of gym membership, though)

    If you want to go the cardio route, I would recommend joining a sports team of some sort bc if you're like me you probably hate running, especially monotonously. With a sport you have specific goals and there are challenges and skill to overcome right in front of you. (i'm not necessarily saying that isn't the case for running, i just think it's a lot harder to motivate yourself but to each their own).

    Most important thing, i think, is to get a routine going of physical activity to get you out and burning off the fat you want to get rid of.
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  3. Post #3
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    Well, I have a minor weight issue. Ever since I got my first computer about 5 years ago I slowly gained weight. My self esteem and confidence has gradually decreased, making me depressed every time I think about it. I am currently 6'4 and 17 years old, and 250lbs.

    Sad thing is I am allergic to most if not all fresh fruits and tree nuts. I don't know why the fuck I am. I watch what I eat and I do not eat candy or ice cream. I don't have a eating problem.

    I'm not obese, but I do have some chunk around the torso, mostly just the effects of sitting for a while. It's hard to type this because it's so embarrassing.

    My question is how do I lose as much weight as possible in a short period? Short period because I'm tired of being overweight, I just want to be normal.

    This is getting old and trying to hide it is just getting older.


    Please only sincere replies only as I am easily effected by what people say about me.
    don't worry brah we don't judge as long as you are trying, you came to the right place
    like binksy said, if eating is not the problem, then you need to burn more calories than you eat, most easily with cardio. try running, or swimming (better for the joints)

    but, the thing is, your eating MAY be the problem, so can you write down (please, truthfully) EVERY single thing you would eat daily, and how much

  4. Post #4
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    Thank you for the replies.

    I don't eat breakfast unless it's the weekend then maybe I'll have 2 eggs and toast. As for lunch, maybe 1 1/2 of a sandwich (PB&J or turkey). Dinner ranges from simply chicken/steak, noodles & green beans to things such as a taco or two, pizza (once a week roughly?), stew or soup every now and then and rarely spaghetti. Though these are the only things I can think of right now.

    For the plate size it's about the same size you would serve an adult male. I don't have seconds nor desert, with an exception of a milkshake about every 2 weeks.

    I should note that it would probably be my lack of activity like Binsky said. I don't play sports because of the weight issue.

    Though since I have joined a fire cadet program it has gotten me a little "in shape" because of our daily push ups and weekly runs. I couldn't even do a push up before now I can do ~40, I'm happy about that.

    Edited:

    I would love to enjoy my last year of high school next year, not being held back by confidence problems.

  5. Post #5
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    That fire cadet program seems like a good thing but daily push ups and weekly runs alone are not going to be nearly enough. You need to be doing exercise (where you break a sweat) for at least an hour a day about 5 days a week.

    The diet seems ok. Try to make sure sandwiches are on wheat bread and maybe refrain from pizza and spaghetti (it's not horrible but they are high in carbs). Try eating spinach or tuna (something high protein and relatively low fat, cal, carb, etc.)

    Edited:

    Also, you don't have to feel subconscious when asking about shit here. We all started at a point where we needed help.
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  6. Post #6
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    Do you drink pop? I'll be completely honest. I was around 250lbs, and when I stopped drinking pop, I dropped to around 205 within like, a few months.

    Edited:

    And this is while I'm still eating like a fat pig. Pizza, candy, etc. Just no pop. Haven't gained any weight, and I'm actually still LOSING weight by sitting at my computer all day every day.

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    Do you drink pop? I'll be completely honest. I was around 250lbs, and when I stopped drinking pop, I dropped to around 205 within like, a few months.

    Edited:

    And this is while I'm still eating like a fat pig. Pizza, candy, etc. Just no pop. Haven't gained any weight, and I'm actually still LOSING weight by sitting at my computer all day every day.
    if you're eating ,say 3500 calories and 800 of those calories come from soda, guess no shit you'll lose fat. it would be some kind of bodily/genetic fuck up if you didn't. i haven't read the whole thread because its a fairly easy thing to answer but hopefully noone is contesting whether or not you need exercise to lose weight because frankly you don't although a weightlifting routine would help you preserve muscle tremendously. enjoy being a skinny fat nerd

  8. Post #8
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    Thank you for the replies.

    I don't eat breakfast unless it's the weekend then maybe I'll have 2 eggs and toast. As for lunch, maybe 1 1/2 of a sandwich (PB&J or turkey). Dinner ranges from simply chicken/steak, noodles & green beans to things such as a taco or two, pizza (once a week roughly?), stew or soup every now and then and rarely spaghetti. Though these are the only things I can think of right now.

    For the plate size it's about the same size you would serve an adult male. I don't have seconds nor desert, with an exception of a milkshake about every 2 weeks.

    I should note that it would probably be my lack of activity like Binsky said. I don't play sports because of the weight issue.

    Though since I have joined a fire cadet program it has gotten me a little "in shape" because of our daily push ups and weekly runs. I couldn't even do a push up before now I can do ~40, I'm happy about that.

    Edited:

    I would love to enjoy my last year of high school next year, not being held back by confidence problems.
    well, breakfast is an important meal
    make sure you eat a high protein breakfast, it will help your body to not burn as much muscle in the long run
    also, pizza=no
    spaghetti=only in moderate amounts
    tacos=no

    have more lean meats and less carbs

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    well, breakfast is an important meal
    make sure you eat a high protein breakfast, it will help your body to not burn as much muscle in the long run
    also, pizza=no
    spaghetti=only in moderate amounts
    tacos=no

    have more lean meats and less carbs
    breakfast doesn't matter and skipping breakfast could be beneficial in many ways and I don't know why this retarded idea of breakfast being important is being agreed on . i honestly don't get why you're so gung-ho over reducing carbs
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  10. Post #10
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    breakfast doesn't matter and skipping breakfast could be beneficial in many ways and I don't know why this retarded idea of breakfast being important is being agreed on . i honestly don't get why you're so gung-ho over reducing carbs
    brah, if you don't eat breakfast, you have no energy, or calories in your body, so until noon, from whenever you went to bed (let's say 11pm), that's 13 hours of no caloric intake

    which means 13 hours of your body burning fat AND muscle, remember, gluconeogenesis, etc. etc.

    even if he takes a protein shake, those 13 hours will just waste away his muscle along with fat, sure he will lose weight faster but the muscle loss will be rediculous

  11. Post #11

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    brah, if you don't eat breakfast, you have no energy, or calories in your body, so until noon, from whenever you went to bed (let's say 11pm), that's 13 hours of no caloric intake

    which means 13 hours of your body burning fat AND muscle, remember, gluconeogenesis, etc. etc.

    even if he takes a protein shake, those 13 hours will just waste away his muscle along with fat, sure he will lose weight faster but the muscle loss will be rediculous
    lmao no , not eating from sleep to midday is fine and improves metabolism and other things by a fairly high degree and by doing this you can increase muscle gain and fat loss with no other changes

  12. Post #12
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    lmao no , not eating from sleep to midday is fine and improves metabolism and other things by a fairly high degree and by doing this you can increase muscle gain and fat loss with no other changes
    k the first part makes sense but how can it help with muscle gain lol
    BRB being at a deficit for more than half the day

    MAGIC MUSCLE GROWTH~~

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    k the first part makes sense but how can it help with muscle gain lol
    BRB being at a deficit for more than half the day

    MAGIC MUSCLE GROWTH~~
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413096
    its a pretty easy to read medical journal

  14. Post #14
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    if you're eating ,say 3500 calories and 800 of those calories come from soda, guess no shit you'll lose fat. it would be some kind of bodily/genetic fuck up if you didn't. i haven't read the whole thread because its a fairly easy thing to answer but hopefully noone is contesting whether or not you need exercise to lose weight because frankly you don't although a weightlifting routine would help you preserve muscle tremendously. enjoy being a skinny fat nerd
    ...what?

  15. Post #15
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413096
    its a pretty easy to read medical journal
    1 meal/d, subjects had a significant increase in hunger; a significant modification of body composition, including reductions in fat mass; significant increases in blood pressure and in total, LDL-, and HDL-cholesterol concentrations; and a significant decrease in concentrations of cortisol.

    no increase in muscle

    significant change in body composition refers to the significant fat reduction

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    1 meal/d, subjects had a significant increase in hunger; a significant modification of body composition, including reductions in fat mass; significant increases in blood pressure and in total, LDL-, and HDL-cholesterol concentrations; and a significant decrease in concentrations of cortisol.

    no increase in muscle

    significant change in body composition refers to the significant fat reduction
    body weight stayed the same, fat loss increased. hmm I wonder where the weight came from? could it be muscle?

  17. Post #17
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    body weight stayed the same, fat loss increased. hmm I wonder where the weight came from? could it be muscle?
    said it was within 2kg of their starting weight

    2kg of fat is significant
    could also be water weight since they are only having one meal a day

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    said it was within 2kg of their starting weight

    2kg of fat is significant
    could also be water weight since they are only having one meal a day
    i dont think you understand statistics to well, 2kg is literally nothing, you and me both have probably shit out 2kg in a day. this is 2kg over 16 weeks , aka proving even farther that it's literally nothing

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    i dont think you understand statistics to well, 2kg is literally nothing, you and me both have probably shit out 2kg in a day. this is 2kg over 16 weeks , aka proving even farther that it's literally nothing
    seeing as I have taken stats classes I lol'd

    2kg is roughly 4.5 lbs, could be gain in water weight and loss in fat

    also, it says significant increase in hunger, fuck that, who wants to be hungry the whole day

    there are certain things I will do to achieve the body I want, but torturing myself with hunger is not one of them

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    seeing as I have taken stats classes I lol'd

    2kg is roughly 4.5 lbs, could be gain in water weight and loss in fat

    also, it says significant increase in hunger, fuck that, who wants to be hungry the whole day

    there are certain things I will do to achieve the body I want, but torturing myself with hunger is not one of them
    1 meal is an extreme just to show the effects of the study more clearly

  21. Post #21
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    1 meal is an extreme just to show the effects of the study more clearly
    but I think the only reason it has such a significant fat loss is BECAUSE it is so extreme

    the effects would be diminished if you didn't eat for 13 hours than ate 2-3 meals in the span of 11
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    but I think the only reason it has such a significant fat loss is BECAUSE it is so extreme

    the effects would be diminished if you didn't eat for 13 hours than ate 2-3 meals in the span of 11
    thats not to say the effects wont be there in great amounts if you ate a schedule like that

  23. Post #23
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    As a human being who is not trying to prove anything, eating breakfast is a good idea because you won't feel as hungry which will make sure you don't eat unhealthy snacks and massive lunches.

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    As a human being who is not trying to prove anything, eating breakfast is a good idea because you won't feel as hungry which will make sure you don't eat unhealthy snacks and massive lunches.
    well i didnt mean to imply that you shouldnt eat a breakfast , i meant it wouldnt be harmful if you did

    Edited:

    what ever you have to do to keep addherence to the diet high is what you should do, because to be honest thats the most important part
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  25. Post #25
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    I was waiting for the final post, Casusv.

  26. Post #26
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    Wait, so are you trying to lose weight, or build muscle, or both?

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    Its possible to just fast to lose weight, but that isn't exactly healthy.

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    Wait, so are you trying to lose weight, or build muscle, or both?

    Edited:

    Its possible to just fast to lose weight, but that isn't exactly healthy.
    its perfectly healthy if youre ok with losing weight and having your metabolism/hormones get all fucked up. what i was talking about, if i didnt make it clear enough, is fasting for a portion of the day while still getting your calories at the end of the day

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    I didn't read the thread, I was just responding to the OP.

  29. Post #29
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    Personally if I work out in the morning without eating I have nowhere near enough energy to complete my routine. Sometimes I feel sick and extremely fatigued afterwards. I have to eat in the morning even if it's just a muffin and a bottle of water or something like that, but thats just me. No clue how other people handle it.

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    Personally if I work out in the morning without eating I have nowhere near enough energy to complete my routine. Sometimes I feel sick and extremely fatigued afterwards. I have to eat in the morning even if it's just a muffin and a bottle of water or something like that, but thats just me. No clue how other people handle it.
    This is how most people will be. Studies have shown that working out in the first ~60 minutes after waking up, your workouts won't be as good as they are after that ~60 minutes.

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    I went from pretty chunky to fit in 2 months.

    Lost 30 pounds by starting out slow, cut all soda from my diet, got down to <30 grams of sugar per day. All sugar does is mess with your endurance and stamina, recommended max is 40 grams of artificial sugars, the 30 I had were mostly natural). Then I started running 20 minutes, got up to 30, started yoga for stretching, and added on loads of situps.

    2 months, lost 30 pounds, gained a huge calf muscle, and slight abs.

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    This is how most people will be. Studies have shown that working out in the first ~60 minutes after waking up, your workouts won't be as good as they are after that ~60 minutes.
    Didn't know this, I always woke up, put my shoes on and ran less than 10 minutes after waking up. Probably helped me, as time went on I started exercising at night and results weren't as substantial.

  32. Post #32
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    I went from pretty chunky to fit in 2 months.

    Lost 30 pounds by starting out slow, cut all soda from my diet, got down to <30 grams of sugar per day. All sugar does is mess with your endurance and stamina, recommended max is 40 grams of artificial sugars, the 30 I had were mostly natural). Then I started running 20 minutes, got up to 30, started yoga for stretching, and added on loads of situps.

    2 months, lost 30 pounds, gained a huge calf muscle, and slight abs.

    Edited:



    Didn't know this, I always woke up, put my shoes on and ran less than 10 minutes after waking up. Probably helped me, as time went on I started exercising at night and results weren't as substantial.
    the thing is as you wake up, to put it simply, your body is `starting itself up`, the last thing it needs is extreme exertion