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    Usually I draw a lot of comic stuff, because I have a webcomic http://www.zombiewaffe.com/index.htm and that takes up alot of time, but I can't neglect getting better at drawing.

    So I start this thread to post some other stuff I do like anatomy study, photo study, sketches and stuff that's not Zombie Waffe related. And I figured you guys give better feedback than DeviantArt users.

    I will try to post something everyday.

    to start off have some speedpaint progress

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    Looking good so far. Some issues with depth though, like the foreshortening on his right arm doesn't look so believable, that might just be lack of detail at this stage though. keep it up man.
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    Are you using a reference picture? If you are it'd be helpful if you could post it.

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    this one?
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    this one?
    That mans right thumb is not right
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    That part looks photoshopped by the creator of the wallpaper.
    The original render should have an arm of a soldier/paladin there.

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    I started some photo study in class, it turned out horrible so I gave up.

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    HAHAH oh wow
    the first version of that krautman made me laugh real hard.

    For the ninja
    left hand slightly smaller
    Eye should be positioned bit lower and made bit larger
    Use some depth fog/air perspective to give it more depth.
    Foreshortening issues on the right arm
    Anatomical issues/shape definition issues on the torso: you make it seem too round and like the torso is facing foward but it's not. This is kind of why lineart is useful, rules out mistakes like that

    Also you don't have to imitate the reference you have to make what you have believable.
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    HAHAH oh wow
    the first version of that krautman made me laugh real hard.

    For the ninja
    left hand slightly smaller
    Eye should be positioned bit lower and made bit larger
    Use some depth fog/air perspective to give it more depth.
    Foreshortening issues on the right arm
    Anatomical issues/shape definition issues on the torso: you make it seem too round and like the torso is facing foward but it's not. This is kind of why lineart is useful, rules out mistakes like that

    Also you don't have to imitate the reference you have to make what you have believable.
    These are simply for practice, so I have to have some reference for these kind of things, especially for photo studies.
    I scrap them and move on

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    Head/eye study

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    You might want to take a look at this?
    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201665
    I dunno

    I know you're not trying to do portraits, but i think the part about using high contrast instead of simplified shapes might have a valid point.
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    Head/eye study

    These remind me very much of stle. I think it's the nose.
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    You might also want to check out Andrew Loomis' Drawing the Head and Hands (right click > save as for maximum profit)
    It goes through the construction, anatomy and planes for both the male and female head, young and old.
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    your faces are too fat in profile
    After the nose the faces kind of slopes in
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    your faces are too fat in profile
    After the nose the faces kind of slopes in
    Wrong, people can have different facial shapes.
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    Wrong, people can have different facial shapes.
    The faces do look a little flat though. You need to make the eyes a little more deep set. Even push the forehead back. Another thing with the profile image is that the eyes are too far up, the eyes should be halfway up the head.
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    Wrong, people can have different facial shapes.
    Yeah, but you horrible overdid it to looking like a mutant and ugly.
    Also proportions are slighlty off sideways.
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    Yeah, but you horrible overdid it to looking like a mutant and ugly.
    Also proportions are slighlty off sideways.
    'mutant' and ugly' Okay calm down there I'm practicing :/ And honestly I'm looking at references and trying to get the proportions right, not trying to stylize anything but it's a habit that's hard to kick

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    what I do is usually do the head and face shape stuff, copy it onto the reference layer, size it down so it fits and see what parts are awfully off, modify the original based that.

    It's more to refresh and to break the thing when you get used to your drawing and see wrong. And it's alot cleaner than other dirty tricks real artists use when doing portraits.
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    I didn't get too much done today.

    just some photostudy. will finish it tomorrow



    Edited:

    ref

    http://i.neoseeker.com/boxshots/R2Ft...2R9KmzIpnB.jpg
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    It's elongated and doesn't slope to the left enough. His jaw's also sharper on the corner and
    more flat at the bottom.

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    You seem to have a tendency to draw quite "tall" faces.
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    Widen that face. You squished it to pretty much 50% of the original size.

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    That's what happens if you stuck to a style before being good enough.
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    Yes I will see about fixing the face.

    Also the tendence I have to draw tall faces is that I had a terrible style like a year ago where I drew them way too short, and I wanted to get rid of that. Guess it just backfired

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    Assassin's left arm looks BIG, in both op and the source

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    Assassin's left arm looks BIG, in both op and the source
    Didn't really think about it, but now that you mention it, it is gigantic. It's just as big as the arm that is further in the foreground which makes no sense since the arm is even behind the body.

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    Let's try this again

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    ear and chin need a little fixing but dayum dog

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    alright time to move on

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    Nice work. It has really come along.

    That splatter brush work stuff on the armour is too sharp though - it really detracts attention away from the main focus of the image.
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    Had to paint something manly.

    1 hour

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    fuck yeah!

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    I know this looks stupid, but I wanted to draw something that was not a photo reference... Tried to get like a cinematic feel.

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    well I guess porn movie is cinematic as well.

    Edited:

    belly is beer kind.
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    The transition between his abs and pelvis looks too long in my opinion. Maybe it's just cos this g-star has his pants so low, I dunno.
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    well I guess porn movie is cinematic as well.

    Edited:

    belly is beer kind.
    AW COME ON, porn movie. What the hell is wrong wth you? It's a shirtless guy.

    maybe putting up my practice art on Facepunch was a bad idea. I get nothing out of this.
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    (agree rating was the first part, not the second part)
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    well I guess porn movie is cinematic as well.

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    belly is beer kind.
    I don't see the problem.
    Sure, he has his pants dangerously low, but I would say it's equivalent to the the kind of revealing (or lack of) cloth you see women wear in film, games and art.
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    I know this looks stupid, but I wanted to draw something that was not a photo reference... Tried to get like a cinematic feel.

    It's really flat. You've given lots of shading and hints towards there actually being muscles and such on the body, but nothing sticks out at all, even with this skewed perspective. The body line is completly straight and flat, and then inside this flat place you've shaded as if it was bumpy.

    Work on making things actually pop out of the body, rather than just being shaded to indicate that it SHOULD pop out.

    The perspective of several things on the body doesn't match up as well. The neckbone is big and placed too low, the neck is fucking huge and stretches far too high, the nipple on the left breast is placed too far to our right, the breast itself is stretched too much whereas the right breast is too short (yes, it's fading out because it gets curved, but it's still too far to the left), the abs and navel are placed more and more the left in a skewed line, which makes no sense when you look at his left breast's position and compare it to the navels position.

    well I guess porn movie is cinematic as well.

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    belly is beer kind.
    How the heck can you even consider it porn-like? Even as a joke it wouldn't work.

    How is that a beer belly? Have you ever seen a beer belly?