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ive never been good at making flying contraptions. so has anyone got any tips? i would like to know how to get ships like these to fly http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=487318
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Well after a quick read of that post, they used a custom shuttle addon to make them fly.
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oh, so i just have to use the shuttle sent, oh well
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Hoverballs.
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hoverbalss can go suck my dick, only noobs use hoverballs, i want to know how to make REAL ships, not big boxes that float using hoverballsHoverballs.
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Adv. Gyropod :V
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You could just use some real wire prowess.
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you should try use e2 that would work great. if you need to, put in a request on divrans e2 thread
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thats a good idea, i absolutely suck when it comes to wire, once ive tried out shuttle and gyropod il do that :D
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If you want something to fly like a plane, that's easy as long as the mass distribution throughout the contraption is quite even. Just make some thrusters on the back that send it forward in a reasonably straight line, then add thrusters on the sides and stuff to make it pitch and roll.
And stop bashing hoverballs, and saying only noobs use them. They're not the sort of thing you want to use if you're making a plane, but they're good if you just want something to stay in the sky, be mobile, and you don't want to muck about with complicated Wire methods when that's not the point of the contraption.
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If you bash hoverballs, you'll also have to bash gyropod and the shuttle sent. Because their purpose is the same, To simplify the process of making shit fly.
Use thrusters or applyForce, Or hoverballs, adv gyropod or the shuttle sent.
Don't. Most servers don't have it. The gyropod is a bit more popular but really, Stick to using as less addons as possible.
Phx3 and wiremod should cover it since almost all servers have it.
If you want your contraption to get better reviews, don't take any shortcuts. But seriously, Nobody will ever bash you for having hoverballs or whatever if you only make it look and fly good.
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Stick a bunch of thrusters randomly across the ship!
does the ship still not fly? moar thrusters!
I'm not kidding here, this was the actual method that my brothers friend used when he tried to make a container fly! all other methods sucked according to him!
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Did you join today?
Anyways, Be creative. There is no real or correct way to make shit fly.
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i know there are other ways to make things fly, but i suck with wire, i dont like hoverballs unless im building a space station, and no i didnt join today, my favourite way of makign theings fly is using fin, but im trying to make a spaceship, not a plane, il try out the gyropod
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I was asking the guy above me that joined january 2010.
If you want to do a simple ship, try the shuttle entity.
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Found an old non-hoverball helicopter video using conners fan tool.
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EDIT: I forgot to integrate the mass counter into the flight code. silly me. Fixed. Just increase/decrease the 1 in the multiplier as needed.Code:
@name Adv Gyropod 2 @inputs E:entity Pod:wirelink On @persist Mass I Ents:array if (first()|duped()) { Mass = E:mass() Ents = E:getConstraints() Count = Ents:count() while (I < Count) { I++ Mass += Ents[I, entity]:mass() } } runOnTick(On) W = Pod["W",number] A = Pod["A",number] S = Pod["S",number] D = Pod["D",number] Shift = Pod["Shift",number] Space = Pod["Space",number] Alt = Pod["Alt",number] #Calculate angle #You might have to change A-D to D-A #You will have to change the multipliers until it's good Angle = ang(W-S,0,D-A) *1*Mass AngVel = E:angVel() *1*Mass E:applyAngForce(Angle-AngVel) #Calculate Force #You will have to change the multipliers until it's good Force = E:forward() * (Space*10+Shift*100-Alt*50) E:applyForce((Force*10-E:vel())*E:mass())
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what do i do with this expression code exactly? sorry, im not very good with wire : /
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you're a noob just for posting that. I use hoverballs why don't you suck my dick. But then again my Username... HEY GUISE IM FOXTON REMEMBER ME I MADE THOSE HELICOPTER EXPRESSIONS BUT EDBERG STOLE AND GOT CREDITED FOR.
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But then garry permabanned me because i said he was actually irish not brittish in the proboards
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Cool story bro
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gtfo
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Avoid the use of hoverballs, they will be rejected and flamed. Adv Gyropod probably will too, (though ive had a blast with it and spacebuild) Applyforce will be flamed by some. Thrusters by no one, provided there is good wire behind them
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thanks, im looking for the easiest way at the moment, im not very good when it comes to wire : / could you possibly tell me what to do with the expression posted earlier?
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applyForce and thrusters is the same thing.
If you want the best functionality learn how to use applyForce properly. You'll find uses for it on everything.
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WHAT!?!?!? How could anyone flame Adv. Gpod!? It's the savior of spacebuild from the scourge of hoverballs and smartconstraint! Please, dear God, tell me you are joking!! This is not a shit/joke post, I am dead serious. Advanced gyropod is A: not overly easy to make work right(keeps total noobs off of it) and B:useful and more stable than hoverballs and e2 combined.
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im having probelms with adv gyropod, i made a simple test by welding it to a seat and hooking it up, i aim up and it doesnt pitch til a certain point and then it just goes really fuckign fast, it always ends up spinning out of control and then i lose it O_O any tips?
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1. It's a shortcut, just like hoverballs, to get stuff to fly.
2. It can't do all the things that e2 does and you won't have full control of everything.
3. I think it's cool when somebody hit's you with a well placed rocket, blowing one of your engines off, making it harder to steer. With this, it's all or nothing.
But i don't think people will flame you for using it.
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You could use a thruster control differential thingy. By which I mean use the rate of change of error to control movement, if that makes any sense, which I doubt it does. Delta control anyway. Set it up with Z axis and a vector thrust or two, there, good as new.
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but i tried using the advanced gyropod and after i turned it on everything had 0 gravity. help plz
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Turn it off again >_>
Anyways, I used to use adv. gyropod all the time. Then Garry had the great idea to edit base_entities and RUIN. MY. FUN. I still use it often though. /tangent But seriously, your stuff didn't have zero gravity, the gyropod was applying force to the props to keep it in the same spot.
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nuh uh, whenever i jump out of one cos its spinning like fuck it flies away and i never see it again! O_o:froggonk:
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Oh I remember now, I think. no, wait, no I don't. I think it is further damage done by Garry. Because spawned ones are spawned with no gravity on them now. This update is really starting to piss me off. Woohoo we can go faster! and all we had to sacrifice was adv. duping thrusters, wire lights, gyropods, and a lot more. Thanks a fucking lot, Garry!
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you gtfo you stupid 09'er ive made shit back in 2005 way better than your shit
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Might I direct you to some other "stupid" 09'er work?
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=873699
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=872615
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=872619
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Well I know foxton is just a fool who sits on the forums going on bout how good he is even though he hasn't posted for ever .... but wtf you can't say someone elses work somehow makes you better
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I wasn't. I was saying it is not a good(aka: smart) thing to simply dismiss someone because of their "forum age"
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excuse me? ive been playing garrysmod for years! i dont spend my whole goddam life on it so im not a great builder, it dusnt mean that im 09 er on the forums that im an 09 er in garrysmod ffs
edit: its only recently ive got into the serious side of building things, i just use to fuck around in spacebuild or tiberium mod, i used to have loads of fun just mucking around with the various addons
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hey no matter what you say, i still win.
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This proves you've lost. End of discussion.
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He's still an 06er. So i think he wins. But he still sucks.
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