[Ham_Wallet]

So this is yet another scene build on gm_flatgrass2008. I suck at making tracers in gimp and suck even more at muzzleflashes (so I left the muzzleflash out), so let me know what you guys think. Comments and crits appreciated.

[Srgt. Shotup]

Posing and scene-build look pretty good! The only thing that looked off was the guy's hand on the foregrip of the Thompson.

[paul bunyan]

good lighting and coloring. that's about it

Edited:

the posing is terrible though

[Ham_Wallet]

paul bunyan posted:

good lighting and coloring. that's about it

Edited:

the posing is terrible though

Care to expand your opinion?

[paul bunyan]

what; do you expect me to write you an essay?

it doesn't take an art critic for you, the creator, to see that your posing is absolutely atrocious and unrealistic

[Ham_Wallet]

paul bunyan posted:

what; do you expect me to write you an essay?

it doesn't take an art critic for you, the creator, to see that your posing is absolutely atrocious and unrealistic

Ah I see, obvious troll is obvious.

[paul bunyan]

Ham_Wallet posted:

Ah I see, obvious troll is obvious.

i'm trolling because i'm not telling you why your poses are bad (even though it's blatantly obvious)? sorry; you can't comprehend what a troll is, and being the whiny little baby you are, have to call me one when you obviously don't know what the definition of a troll is.

nice job on looking like an idiot


i gave you constructive criticism by telling you that your posing is bad. i don't have to indicate what's bad because the pose itself is horrid - not just one part. the legs are posed like he's trying to do a jimmy hindrix chicken dance and the guy holding the thompson has the worst hand posing ever made plus he's hunched like he has back problems and can't be in the army (or airborne) in the first place

you're dumb, and in fact too dumb to make basic pictures in garry's mod so i'd reccomend you stop trolling me and get out

(User was permabanned for this post ("Trolling" - grea$emonkey))

[Half-Health]

paul bunyan.. i love how you go into this thread and say the posing is awful and then rate yourself throughout the entire argument. The posing on this is better than all those Gustave pictures in my opinion as well

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

The posing on this is better than all those Gustave pictures in my opinion as well

i'm pretty sure your opinion is invalid seeing as how you not only have numbers in your name but you also have a shitty meme as your avatar
what makes you think you have any grounds in this argument? i doubt you even know what you're talking about in the slightest

(User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Monkeyjoe))

[Ham_Wallet]

Let's not derail this guys. Just ignore him and move on please. The report button is your friend.

[idclippro]

Ham_Wallet posted:

Let's not derail this guys. Just ignore him and move on please. The report button is your friend.

i find it amusing that you realized you can't win an argument that you already lost so you indirectly drop out and state you reported him as if it gives you some feeling of self importance

[paul bunyan]

BlackRazor88 posted:

paul bunyan.. i love how you go into this thread and say the posing is awful and then rate yourself throughout the entire argument. The posing on this is better than all those Gustave pictures in my opinion as well

oh yeah i love to rate myself disagree and dumb

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Ham_Wallet posted:

Let's not derail this guys. Just ignore him and move on please. The report button is your friend.

too bad the mods are going to laugh at this and move on because i've done nothing wrong and you've blown this completely out of proportion because you can't take the cold, hard truth

[Santz]

paul bunyan posted:

oh yeah i love to rate myself disagree and dumb

Edited:



too bad the mods are going to laugh at this and move on because i've done nothing wrong and you've blown this completely out of proportion because you can't take the cold, hard truth

I rated him funny, and he is right Ham... He is just a little mean.
Also both of the people above have really good editing skills... and huge egos.

Just take their C&C and if you dont like the other parts just ignore them.

[Half-Health]

idclippro posted:

i'm pretty sure your opinion is invalid seeing as how you not only have numbers in your name but you also have a shitty meme as your avatar
what makes you think you have any grounds in this argument? i doubt you even know what you're talking about in the slightest

Oh my god.. you have ANOTHER alt? I thought you got perma'd?

And ye actually I do know what I speak of I've seen paul's posing.. its awful and downright stupid in my opinion

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paul bunyan posted:

oh yeah i love to rate myself disagree and dumb

More like agree

[Ham_Wallet]

Personally I don't give two craps I like it, I know quiet a few people like my other works, if someone has had a bad day and wants to use me as their forum punching bag, fine with me.

[Half-Health]

Ham_Wallet posted:

Personally I don't give two craps I like it, I know quiet a few people like my other works, if someone has had a bad day and wants to use me as their forum punching bag, fine with me.

Don't take it to heart, -SNIP-

paul bunyan and idclippro are one and the same... they are both Angry Baker the guy who trolls the screenshot section

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

And ye actually I do know what I speak of

no. you don't.



Edited:

BlackRazor88 posted:

Don't take it to heart, idclippro is notorious for trolling.. he has had a ton of alternate accounts with which he trolls, and paul bunyan seems to do this a lot anyways

notorious for trolling? no, i'm notorious for providing criticism that's true and blunt and people like you take it to heart and insist that i'm insulting your "masterpiece" as such, you call it trolling to deflect the fact that your pictures are mediocre

[Ham_Wallet]

idclippro posted:

no. you don't.
picture

I don't think he was saying that he was better, he was stating his opinion on someone elses work. I tend to agree that many of this images are very basic, and are more about photoshopping it than actual work pu into posing.

[Half-Health]

idclippro posted:

no. you don't.



Edited:


notorious for trolling? no, i'm notorious for providing criticism that's true and blunt and people like you take it to heart and insist that i'm insulting your "masterpiece" as such, you call it trolling to deflect the fact that your pictures are mediocre

Uh huh.. so by your logic.. just because I'm not an amazing editor such as yourself as you claim to be ANGRY BAKER... means I don't know what good C&C is.. thats kind of funny actually.. because your "C&C" got you banned

and you even admitted to being an alt... which I already knew..

gotta love the search feature


you sure do post in strange places...

Edited:

Why don't you use something recent none-the-less



that HEV one is old

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

just because I'm not an amazing editor such as yourself as you claim to be ANGRY BAKER... means I don't know what good C&C is.. thats kind of funny actually.. because your "C&C" got you banned

i'm not angry baker, paul bunyan is. can you read or are you illiterate? my name is clearly idclippro.
i'd respond to any other points made in this post but i have no idea what you were trying to get across. it's like you changed your mind half way through posting but forgot to delete the previous comments.

and you even admitted to being an alt... which I already knew..

completely irrelevant. what does me being an alt of another use have to do with anything?

gotta love the search feature

take it up with angry baker, not me.

[paul bunyan]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Uh huh.. so by your logic.. just because I'm not an amazing editor such as yourself as you claim to be ANGRY BAKER... means I don't know what good C&C is.. thats kind of funny actually.. because your "C&C" got you banned

and you even admitted to being an alt... which I already knew..

gotta love the search feature

i'm sure you read the thread title and looked at the op (you didn't, in which case you have no idea what you're talking about)

also this man and i are totally different people (just as we were before when everyone said we were the same), except you aren't smart enough to believe me even though we both have different posting styles.


also, your "recent" pictures are still terrible compared to my masterpieces, so you still hold no ground. stop trying to climb the mountain that is impassable by such a lowly person as yourself

[Half-Health]

Thats funny.. you sure do post EXACTLY like ANGRY BAKER

http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.ph...74&postcount=7

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Why don't you use something recent none-the-less


that HEV one is old

okay.
way too much white space
posing is stiff
snow looks like someone just scratched up a photograph
bow legged posing
guy on the right: no one holds rifles like that. also his finger is way too curved

if you want me to go into more detail and make a paintover for you, i can.

[Half-Health]

idclippro posted:

i'm not angry baker, paul bunyan is. can you read or are you illiterate? my name is clearly idclippro.
completely irrelevant. what does me being an alt of another use have to do with anything?

Mhm... :raise:

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Thats funny.. you sure do post EXACTLY like ANGRY BAKER

http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.ph...74&postcount=7

no i don't.

[paul bunyan]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Thats funny.. you sure do post EXACTLY like ANGRY BAKER

http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.ph...74&postcount=7

i never denied being angry baker. that doesn't make the other poster immediately him, idiot.

[sOmEcRaZyGuY]

This has gone too far...

Edited:

Way too far.

[Half-Health]

idclippro posted:

okay.
way too much white space -- Rooftop, its skyspace
posing is stiff -- Take it up with the model porters
snow looks like someone just scratched up a photograph -- How so
bow legged posing -- Explain further
guy on the right: no one holds rifles like that. also his finger is way too curved -- Why not? He is at rest and I can't do much about the fingers.. again take it up with the modellers

if you want me to go into more detail and make a paintover for you, i can.

answered in the quote

Edited:

paul bunyan posted:

i never denied being angry baker. that doesn't make the other poster immediately him, idiot.

not you

Edited:

sOmEcRaZyGuY posted:

This has gone too far...

Edited:

Way too far.

It has indeed

[paul bunyan]

BlackRazor88 posted:

answered in the quotes

your petty excuses are terrible. the posing is your fault and the shitty map area and angle is also your fault. don't try to hide the small, obscure errors in the map behind your inability to make a picture good with what's at hand on your own

BlackRazor88 posted:

not you

he isn't angry baker. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that (except you're not smart and instantly put some benign puzzle together only because of the avatar he wears)

Edited:

10:05 PM - beyond furiously black knight: they don't even know how to reply/are surfing through post history to try to bring up irrelevant shit


posting for future reference so i can quote this and dominate the thread (agian) because i know you're going to eventually pull the shit card that you always do (you know who you are) because you don't know how to argue

[Half-Health]

paul bunyan posted:

your petty excuses are terrible. the posing is your fault and the shitty map area and angle is also your fault. don't try to hide the small, obscure errors in the map behind your inability to make a picture good with what's at hand on your own

I can't make the models work any better than they do unless I fix them myself (which I would lvoe to learn to do)


he isn't angry baker. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that (except you're not smart and instantly put some benign puzzle together only because of the avatar he wears)

Then why does he use the exact same highlight-random-crap-everywhere-in-the-same-font-in-different-colors-nit-pick-about-everything C&C that you do? It would appear just about all of your old accounts links are broken.. trying to find a comparison as I type this


Remember THIS?

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Rooftop, its skyspace

that's not a valid excuse. put something else there. just because it's "skyspace" doesn't mean you can overblow the highlights and make it look like shit.

Take it up with the model porters

no, i'm taking it up with you. as the screenshot creator it's your job to make an angle and pose that displays fluidity and natural motion. not the model porter's.

How so

how so? do you live in california or some third world country where it never snows? it looks nothing like snow. i'm not going to sit here and provide a detailed analysis on why it doesn't look like snow--try actually looking at it.

Explain further

i don't need to explain further than bow legged posing. gee, what's that mean? it means they're fucking bow legged. if you don't know what it means, google it.

Why not? He is at rest

he's at rest, holding a 13 lb rifle completely vertical with nothing resting on the buttstock? what is wrong with you?

I can't do much about the fingers.. again take it up with the modellers

again, it's your job to make it look good. besides, you're the one that posed the fingers. not the porters.

[paul bunyan]

BlackRazor88 posted:

Then why does he use the exact same highlight-random-crap-everywhere-in-the-same-font-in-different-colors-nit-pick-about-everything C&C that you do? It would appear just about all of your old accounts links are broken.. trying to find a comparison as I type this

because anyone can do the shit that i do? you don't have to dig up shit because nothing you find will indicate that you're right

[Half-Health]

FYI the snow was from a picture.. so real life isn't good enough for you now eh?

and now that I recall correctly he isn't Angry Baker.. hes the little Toadie that copied Angry Baker's every action.. Rubs Glue was the name back then I believe

[idclippro]

BlackRazor88 posted:

FYI the snow was from a picture.. so real life isn't good enough for you now eh?

just because it came from a picture doesn't mean it looks good/real.

and now that I recall correctly he isn't Angry Baker.. hes the little Toadie that copied Angry Baker's every action.. Rubs Glue was the name back then I believe

rubs glue was me, not angry baker. good job.
by the way, i enjoy the fact you completely tip toed around the rest of my criticism.

[Ham_Wallet]

Ok, now that he has been dealt with, can we please get back on topic.

[Grea$eMonkey]

Yes. Stop derailing and actually provide criticism.

[Half-Health]

idclippro posted:

just because it came from a picture doesn't mean it looks good/real.

rubs glue was me, not angry baker. good job.
by the way, i enjoy the fact you completely tip toed around the rest of my criticism.

By tip-toed do you mean I simply took it and felt no need to make a comment?

And photographs aren't real? I am amazed at what you will consider real then

Meh.. ninjad ignore this post..

[idclippro]

grea$emonkey posted:

Yes. Stop derailing and actually provide criticism.

i'm pretty sure you banned the only one capable of providing competent criticism.

paul bunyan posted:

good lighting and coloring. that's about it

paul bunyan posted:

i gave you constructive criticism by telling you that your posing is bad. i don't have to indicate what's bad because the pose itself is horrid - not just one part. the legs are posed like he's trying to do a jimmy hindrix chicken dance and the guy holding the thompson has the worst hand posing ever made plus he's hunched like he has back problems and can't be in the army (or airborne) in the first place

Edited:

BlackRazor88 posted:

And photographs aren't real? I am amazed at what you will consider real then

when did i say photographs weren't real? i'm saying just because something is taken from a photograph and put into a screenshot taken from a video game doesn't mean in the instance it's used it will look good.

[Grea$eMonkey]

idclippro posted:

i'm pretty sure you banned the only one capable of providing competent criticism.

The extent of his criticism was "bad posing." I wouldn't call that competent.

Anyways, I like the screenshot. The gun positions and finger-posing are off, but at first glance it looked nice.

[Ham_Wallet]

There is nothing wrong with the posing save the lead hand on the Thompson. The rifleman is running while hugging the ground as he is under fire. You have either never watched a WW2 movie or ever seen anyone run in such a way as to stay low. Other than that, I see nothing wrong with it, although my opinion may be a bit bias.