[Onemanclan]

A rebuild of my easy helicopter tutorial. I had alot of positive responses and suggestions that i tried to consider and work into this. My knowledge of E2 is limited, but after a few hours i was able to make a fully apply force controlled copter. The last model had to many thrusters for some servers. This model is a chair, plate, E2 chip and a pod controller. I might release this sometime in the future, but have no plans to right now.

The Helicopter itself is pretty simple, its basically to show how this setup works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MvSycfSkLQ




Old thread is here: http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=827423

[kp3]

Meh, Good work i guess. Work on astethics.

[Schmaaa]

yeah, looks like it flies fine, but work on the aesthetics.

[Karbine]

your rotors are a bit small

[Onemanclan]

yeah i hear what you are all saying, the post isnt about the copter itself really. Its more about the flying and base itself. The helicopter itself sucks as far as im concerned, i just put it together to go over the base. The rotors are horrible. i wasnt even going to add any to show this, but with the other thread asking how its done i figured i would try it myself.

[Hunta]

Karbine posted:

your rotors are a bit small

That's what she said

[Madman_Andre]

The rotors are too smal, and that cockpit, those PHX materials...

Hunta posted:

That's what she said

That's what your mom said.

:q:

[Dohner]

The body looks retarded. Redo it

[Colonel Jesh]

-snip-

Don't want to get banned

[Onemanclan]

Dohner posted:

The body looks retarded. Redo it

You should probably read the thread before posting next time, if you did you would see this has nothing to do with the looks of the copter. I already said it looked like shit, this was to show improvements i made over my old base. Thanks for wasting your time though.

[Dohner]

Onemanclan posted:

You should probably read the thread before posting next time, if you did you would see this has nothing to do with the looks of the copter. I already said it looked like shit, this was to show improvements i made over my old base. Thanks for wasting your time though.

Lol I'm telling you that your body of the helicopter looks retarded. It can function as well as a real helicopter but I'm saying you should revamp the body. And even if I did waste my time posting that It was totally worth it to see your response

[BBOOBBYY!]

It was better as a bare plate, then people would only talk about the e2 itself...
Or you could title it "Improved helicopter E2" and just mention in the thread that you made the "body" just so it doesn't look like a square ufo but still nothing serious...

[Onemanclan]

BBOOBBYY! posted:

It was better as a bare plate, then people would only talk about the e2 itself...
Or you could title it "Improved helicopter E2" and just mention in the thread that you made the "body" just so it doesn't look like a square ufo but still nothing serious...

Thing is i did say that in the original post,

Onemanclan posted:

The Helicopter itself is pretty simple, its basically to show how this setup works.

Also all i talked about were the improvements in the system itself, and i link to the old one. I mean should i draw pictures for people to understand? The video starts out with the plate itself to show how it works, then later goes to the one with the props attached. It really couldn't be anymore simple that than.

Dohner posted:

Lol I'm telling you that the body of your helicopter looks retarded.

Fixed,

Also inanimate or virtual objects cannot be "retarded" just so you know. Mental retardation ( I assume this is what you are referring to) Is when a human being has impaired cognitive functioning, sometimes affecting motor skills or other functions. I work with people that have Mental retardation, If you need some help im sure i could assist you with your problem.

[woodchuck34]

he means retarded as in it looks stupid

Edited:

a lot of people say that around here, it's common culture, get with it son

[BraXbS]

Onemanclan posted:

The Helicopter itself is pretty simple, its basically to show how this setup works.

People need to read and understand that the point of this thread was not to show off an uber awesome heli body. lewl

[BBOOBBYY!]

But you didn't in the fucking title that should be "Helicopter E2 Reborn"

[Dohner]

Onemanclan posted:

Thing is i did say that in the original post,



Also all i talked about were the improvements in the system itself, and i link to the old one. I mean should i draw pictures for people to understand? The video starts out with the plate itself to show how it works, then later goes to the one with the props attached. It really couldn't be anymore simple that than.



Fixed,

Also inanimate or virtual objects cannot be "retarded" just so you know. Mental retardation ( I assume this is what you are referring to) Is when a human being has impaired cognitive functioning, sometimes affecting motor skills or other functions. I work with people that have Mental retardation, If you need some help im sure i could assist you with your problem.

LOLOL your a returd dur dur. If your setup works then make it look nice

[Balto-the-Wolf-Dog]

Can I have the e2 code?

[DONUT KING]

Looks hideous, but it flies nice, so good job on functionality.

[Frechetta93]

Rated all bad reading like a boss.

[edberg]

Onemanclan posted:

Fixed,

Also inanimate or virtual objects cannot be "retarded" just so you know. Mental retardation ( I assume this is what you are referring to) Is when a human being has impaired cognitive functioning, sometimes affecting motor skills or other functions. I work with people that have Mental retardation, If you need some help im sure i could assist you with your problem.

The helicopter looks like shit, this is essentially a thread about your expression. Put equal amounts of effort into both parts of the contraption.

SHIT REFERS TO FECAL MATTER WHICH IS WHAT THIS HELICOPTER IS NOT COMPOSED JUST SO YOU KNOW IM SO SMART I SURE SHOWED HIM LOL!

[Onemanclan]

edberg posted:

The helicopter looks like shit, this is essentially a thread about your expression. [/b]

Umm yeah the thread is about the Expression, and i already said several times now that it looks like shit. I almost thought you were smarter than the rest to figure out it is a thread about the expression, except you didn't. You seem to be accusing me of making the thread about the expression(which i did) instead of the helicopter. So really you didn't figure anything out and you only stated the obvious that everyone already knew.

You should have at least added some name calling or something to make your thread more viable for trolling/flaming. As it is you just made yourself look like a fool.

[Sestze]

In a thread about helicopters and E2, Edberg shits over everything? Color me surprised.

I like how it controls, it looks incredibly smooth in flight. I can understand why the body looks the way it does, it's the concept that counts. The next one you make can concentrate on aesthetics.

Also if it helps: Never ask the OP for the code. It's rude as fuck and makes you look like a gigantic pillock.

[Onemanclan]

Sestze posted:

In a thread about helicopters and E2, Edberg shits over everything? Color me surprised.

I like how it controls, it looks incredibly smooth in flight. I can understand why the body looks the way it does, it's the concept that counts. The next one you make can concentrate on aesthetics.

Also if it helps: Never ask the OP for the code. It's rude as fuck and makes you look like a gigantic pillock.

Appreciate it Sestze! You still having PC problems? I havent seen you around so i was just wondering. Shoot me a PM if you need any help with it.

[edberg]

Here I'll post it again since you decided to only read the bold text and not the valid advice.

The helicopter looks like shit, this is essentially a thread about your expression. Put equal amounts of effort into both parts of the contraption.

Edited:

What I'm trying to say is that this isn't the wiremod forums and people don't care about E2 expressions if they don't have a good contraption to go with it.

[Sestze]

edberg posted:

I care. :I

Unique/awesome/innovative use of applyForce that blows current control schemes out of the water. Whenever anyone posts a thread like that, you can count on a good amount of people showing up to call it complete garbage.

It's the concept that counts, this is an incredibly fluid and realistic flight system for a helicopter on an easy-to-use shell.

Also, I see plenty of contraptions that don't have any wiring, or very little wiring. Do you see me marching into those threads and calling their contraptions garbage because of the techniques they used?

Throwing a lot of props at something to make it look "awesome" is the biggest waste of time if your contraption cannot move or work correctly. GMOD is not modeling software.

edit: Yeah, my computer's still bricked. It's coming back in a couple of days. Here's hoping that'll resolve the issue.

[_Twitch_]

way too sensitive, accelerates in any direction far too quickly, rotors too short and skinny

idk what you guys are talking about, i think both the wiring and the aesthetics are mediocre at best

[Onemanclan]

_Twitch_ posted:

way too sensitive, accelerates in any direction far too quickly

Not if you don't want it to. you can be aggressive or not with the controls, its up to the pilot.

Sestze posted:

Yeah, my computer's still bricked. It's coming back in a couple of days. Here's hoping that'll resolve the issue.

Thats good news then, hope your back on soon!

[RKTurbo17]

hey one man, i think a cool idea would be to make it so that it starts out slow and accelerates in w/e direction u want it to go.. if u want i can help u with the coding.. i know it pretty well

[kp3]

I think it would be a great idea to stop bashing everyones criticism.

[BraXbS]

*starts singing* Why can't weeee be frieeends!

[Dohner]

ahem: Contraptions. Not plate with a chip on it

[edberg]

Sestze posted:

I care. :I

Unique/awesome/innovative use of applyForce that blows current control schemes out of the water. Whenever anyone posts a thread like that, you can count on a good amount of people showing up to call it complete garbage.

It's the concept that counts, this is an incredibly fluid and realistic flight system for a helicopter on an easy-to-use shell.

Also, I see plenty of contraptions that don't have any wiring, or very little wiring. Do you see me marching into those threads and calling their contraptions garbage because of the techniques they used?

Throwing a lot of props at something to make it look "awesome" is the biggest waste of time if your contraption cannot move or work correctly. GMOD is not modeling software.

edit: Yeah, my computer's still bricked. It's coming back in a couple of days. Here's hoping that'll resolve the issue.

Okay I'll post it a third fucking time because you don't read.


Put equal amounts of effort into both parts of the contraption
Both parts of the contraption.


It has good expression work, but the model is shitty.

[Onemanclan]

edberg posted:

Okay I'll post it a third fucking time because you don't read.


Put equal amounts of effort into both parts of the contraption
Both parts of the contraption.


It has good expression work, but the model is shitty.

Ill post a 6th time because you cant read. Everyone knows the model is shitty, i said it myself. The thread is about the expression, not the model. If you want time spent equally on contraptions then do it to your own. You dont make the rules for how we do our stuff.

[edberg]

Onemanclan posted:

Ill post a 6th time because you cant read. Everyone knows the model is shitty, i said it myself. The thread is about the expression, not the model. If you want time spent equally on contraptions then do it to your own. You dont make the rules for how we do our stuff.

It's constructive criticism.

I don't care if you make a thread called "really shitty car" and you are going on about how we shouldn't state our thoughts just because you already said it sucks. I'm going to tell you how to make it better regardless.

Edited:

bold text

[Onemanclan]

edberg posted:

It's constructive criticism.

Edited:

bold text

Your first post might be considered constructive criticism, but at this point you are just bitching about what other people think. Do you even know what a contraption is? The shell/model of a shitty heli isnt a contraption. Its simply a cover to go over the contraption itself. You want to pick the worst part of the post and whine and complain until others are convinced and take your side.

Guess what.. WE ARE ALREADY ON YOUR SIDE. EVERYONE knows the model is complete shit, i knew it before i posted it. This post is about my Contraption...

con·trap·tion (kn-trpshn)
n.
A mechanical device; a gadget.


A model isn't a device or gadget.

contraption [kənˈtræpʃən]
n
Informal, often facetious or derogatory a device or contrivance, esp one considered strange, unnecessarily intricate, or improvised


A model certainly isn't facetious or derogatory. It cant really be called be called strange, unnecessarily intricate, or improvised either.

Although the model was improvised, its certainly isn't a device or gadget. So again i don't know what your whining about, because everyone here agrees with you.


EDIT:

edberg posted:

It's constructive criticism.

I don't care if you make a thread called "really shitty car" and you are going on about how we shouldn't state our thoughts just because you already said it sucks. I'm going to tell you how to make it better regardless.

Edited:

bold text

Maybe if you did tell me how to make it better that would help, but you didn't. Nothing you posted in this thread was any value to anyone.

[edberg]

Onemanclan posted:

Your first post might be considered constructive criticism, but at this point you are just bitching about what other people think. Do you even know what a contraption is? The shell/model of a shitty heli isnt a contraption. Its simply a cover to go over the contraption itself. You want to pick the worst part of the post and whine and complain until others are convinced and take your side.

Guess what.. WE ARE ALREADY ON YOUR SIDE. EVERYONE knows the model is complete shit, i knew it before i posted it. This post is about my Contraption...

con·trap·tion (kn-trpshn)
n.
A mechanical device; a gadget.


A model is a device or gadget.

contraption [kənˈtræpʃən]
n
Informal, often facetious or derogatory a device or contrivance, esp one considered strange, unnecessarily intricate, or improvised


A model certainly isn't facetious or derogatory. It cant really be called be called strange, unnecessarily intricate, or improvised either.

Although the model was improvised, its certainly isn't a device or gadget. So again i don't know what your whining about, because everyone here agrees with you.


EDIT:





Maybe if you did tell me how to make it better that would help, but you didn't. Nothing you posted in this thread was any value to anyone.

rofl you aren't worth trying to help, leaving the thread now

leave 1 (lv)
v. left (lft), leav·ing, leaves
v.tr.
1. To go out of or away from: not allowed to leave the room.

hay maybe if i google for definitions of simple words it will make people think im smarter than him

[Onemanclan]

edberg posted:

rofl you aren't worth trying to help, leaving the thread now

leave 1 (lv)
v. left (lft), leav·ing, leaves
v.tr.
1. To go out of or away from: not allowed to leave the room.

hay maybe if i google for definitions of simple words it will make people think im smarter than him

Resorting to childish banter now are we? Oh well since you are leaving this thread you wont see this anyway. People always resort to physical or verbal abuse when they have no other way to express their feelings.

[Dohner]

Onemanclan posted:

Ill post a 6th time because you cant read. Everyone knows the model is shitty, i said it myself. The thread is about the expression, not the model. If you want time spent equally on contraptions then do it to your own. You dont make the rules for how we do our stuff.

Don't you ever call us we. You just got here. You don't take constructive criticism. A plate with a chip on it is neither a mechanical device or gadget. Asking us to grade you on your chip instead of your helicopter is dumb and doesn't belong in the contraption forums. Go to the wiremod forums. They won't care. We do.

[Onemanclan]

Dohner posted:

Don't you ever call us we. You just got here. You don't take constructive criticism. A plate with a chip on it is neither a mechanical device or gadget. Asking us to grade you on your chip instead of your helicopter is dumb and doesn't belong in the contraption forums. Go to the wiremod forums. They won't care. We do.

Again one of those times where reading comprehension comes into play. When i said "We" I was referring to myself and the others in the thread that agree with me. I would be ashamed to number myself with you. Your opinions on what and where i should post my contraptions couldn't possibly mean any less to me.