[tlsaudrl2548]

yes

[Rastifan]

The color of those classes? And what is hinds?

Awkward running, but otherwise nice posing.

[tlsaudrl2548]

Rastifan posted:

The color of those classes? And what is hinds?

Awkward running, but otherwise nice posing.

hinds is choppers
russian chopper.

[Rastifan]

Ah

[30Spartan300]

properly calld Hin-D's....

[tlsaudrl2548]

Eh

[azndude]

If those guys were epic, they would have done what the Afghanis did during the Soviet–Afghan War.

[30Spartan300]

azndude posted:

If those guys were epic, they would have done what the Afghanis did during the Soviet–Afghan War.

Steal Hin-D's and blow the others up?

[Robert!]

tlsaudrl2548 posted:

hinds is choppers
russian chopper.

Hind is the NATO name for the MI-24.

[Doc_Fisherman]

British Royal Army S.A.S Badge with an American flag?
But anyway good pose lad...

[Domino]

The running look odd.. But running does look odd from that camera angle anyway..
The color-scheme is indeed one of the better looking :)

[Sottalytober]

Doc_Fisherman posted:

British Royal Army S.A.S Badge with an American flag?
But anyway good pose lad...

Possibly be a squad with SAS and Green Beret.

[Doc_Fisherman]

Sottalytober posted:

Possibly be a squad with SAS and Green Beret.

I wouldn't waste my time to change my uniform for another country rather be in the uniform of my country I mean you are fighting for your country and yes I know don't forget you allies but still...Would you rather represent your country or another? Plus DPM CAMO ROCKS

[rossmum]

The CoD4 SAS insignia isn't accurate anyway, so who really cares?

e/ Yeah, DPM fucking owns, desert DPM isn't so hot though

[ChestyMcGee]

30Spartan300 posted:

properly calld Hin-D's....

No. Just no.

Properly called the Mil Mi-24 actually.

What you are attempting to refer to is a later variant of the original Mi-24A updated to a weapons platform, the Mi-24D (known to NATO as the "Hind D"... not "Hin-D" as you put it).

30Spartan300 posted:

Steal Hin-D's and blow the others up?

Again. No. Really... just no.

The Mujahideen used American Stinger missile launchers to destroy Russian gunships. The launchers were supplied by the CIA and training in the use of the launchers is thought to have been provided by the British SAS. Some would even go so far as to believe that the SAS worked alongside the Mujahideen on Afghani soil. Large numbers of Stingers remain unaccounted for today.

/pointless history lesson

[josemlopes]

ChestyMcGee posted:

/pointless history lesson

Indeed, no one will remember this

[ChestyMcGee]

josemlopes posted:

Indeed, no one will remember this

And thus continues the circle of ignorance.

[Back_Slash]

30Spartan300 posted:

Steal Hin-D's and blow the others up?

no it's not hin-d it is HIND or HIND-D epic BTW

[Hairybastard]

wow soldiers running arround with guns, creative!

[azndude]

ChestyMcGee posted:

Again. No. Really... just no.

The Mujahideen used American Stinger missile launchers to destroy Russian gunships. The launchers were supplied by the CIA and training in the use of the launchers is thought to have been provided by the British SAS. Some would even go so far as to believe that the SAS worked alongside the Mujahideen on Afghani soil. Large numbers of Stingers remain unaccounted for today.

/pointless history lesson

Actually guys, I'm talking about how they took them down epic style. Mil Mi-24's would fly low around the mountains due to the terrain's ability to hide and shelter the Afghanis. When a Mi-24 would get close enough, the Afghanis would fire or sometimes throw some sort of grappling hook, with a wire connected to the end, at the rotors, thus causing the Mi-24's to crash into a fiery explosion.

[TunnelSnake]

I'd say there are TWO many hinds.

:smug:

Edited:

azndude posted:

Actually guys, I'm talking about how they took them down epic style. Mil Mi-24's would fly low around the mountains due to the terrain's ability to hide and shelter the Afghanis. When a Mi-24 would get close enough, the Afghanis would fire or sometimes throw some sort of grappling hook, with a wire connected to the end, at the rotors, thus causing the Mi-24's to crash into a fiery explosion.

Um...we're talking about real life, not James Bond.

[ChestyMcGee]

azndude posted:

Actually guys, I'm talking about how they took them down epic style. Mil Mi-24's would fly low around the mountains due to the terrain's ability to hide and shelter the Afghanis. When a Mi-24 would get close enough, the Afghanis would fire or sometimes throw some sort of grappling hook, with a wire connected to the end, at the rotors, thus causing the Mi-24's to crash into a fiery explosion.

Are you trying to tell me that the Mujahideen had access to some sort of grappling hook capable of holding onto and bringing down a 10,000kg helicopter moving at something like 200km/h?

I'm calling shenanigans on that.

[azndude]

ChestyMcGee posted:

Are you trying to tell me that the Mujahideen had access to some sort of grappling hook capable of holding onto and bringing down a 10,000kg helicopter moving at something like 200km/h?

I'm calling shenanigans on that.

Yes, they did do that. You have to understand that the Mi-24 isn't always flying at 200 KM/H and that due to the mountains, the Mi-24 would normally have to be close to the ground, nap-of-the-earth, making it easy for the Mujahideen to use that tactic.

Also, they didn't fire it just with a grappling hook. It was attached to a long wire that would fly INTO a rotor. If something got into the rotor, I believe it would bring it down.

Sadly, I can't find you any known internet proof as of now, but I will, if I have to, go to my military wise friend and ask his help to find them in his millions of books. But you don't have to believe me if you don't want to due to my lack of evidence.

[UltaPonch]

azndude posted:

Yes, they did do that. You have to understand that the Mi-24 isn't always flying at 200 KM/H and that due to the mountains, the Mi-24 would normally have to be close to the ground, nap-of-the-earth, making it easy for the Mujahideen to use that tactic.

Also, they didn't fire it just with a grappling hook. It was attached to a long wire that would fly INTO a rotor. If something got into the rotor, I believe it would bring it down.

Sadly, I can't find you any known internet proof as of now, but I will, if I have to, go to my military wise friend and ask his help to find them in his millions of books. But you don't have to believe me if you don't want to due to my lack of evidence.

There is a lack of evidence because that theory is ridiculous. Mountain passes a hind would fly through at a low height are pretty large. You can't fire a grappling hook that far unless they trucked up howitzers by horse.

[azndude]

UltaPonch posted:

There is a lack of evidence because that theory is ridiculous. Mountain passes a hind would fly through at a low height are pretty large. You can't fire a grappling hook that far unless they trucked up howitzers by horse.

I talked to some of my ex-military friends and they went into deep detail about how this would worked.

This tactic was invented by the Russians during the Vietnam War and was later passed onto the Vietcongs which was used to take down Hueys. How this would work was that they would fire a RPG, any Rocket Propelled Grenade, from any launcher they had available. At the end, there would be a long wire connected to it. Of course, because you're firing a rocket, you would have to wait until it was either hovering or moving at a very slow speed.

Another tactic they used with wires was they would tie them around a certain area where the Mi-24's would normally patrol. Similar to what the Allies did near the beaches on D-Day.

THE HELICOPTER PAGE posted:

If a helicopter hits a power line (Telephone line, electrical line, guy wire for a tower, or any other wire obstacle), the rotor system may become entangled with the wire, and catastrophic failure of the rotor system could lead to total destruction of the aircraft.

[Doc_Fisherman]

Just like this poor brave bastards who tempt to stop more spread of the radiation or something like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2QWSAn4zjI I know its from a crane (accident) not doing the rope trick
Than again this is MI 18 Not Mi 24
To me that tactic doesn't seem safe...

[Robert!]

azndude posted:

I talked to some of my ex-military friends and they went into deep detail about how this would worked.

This tactic was invented by the Russians during the Vietnam War and was later passed onto the Vietcongs which was used to take down Hueys. How this would work was that they would fire a RPG, any Rocket Propelled Grenade, from any launcher they had available. At the end, there would be a long wire connected to it. Of course, because you're firing a rocket, you would have to wait until it was either hovering or moving at a very slow speed.

Another tactic they used with wires was they would tie them around a certain area where the Mi-24's would normally patrol. Similar to what the Allies did near the beaches on D-Day.

A source would be great.

[Mr. Raptor]

azndude posted:

If those guys were epic, they would have done what the Afghanis did during the Soviet–Afghan War.

Run away as the pilot charged them nose-down? That was a HUGE tactic with Hind pilots until they learned to aim for the tail for massive damage.

[azndude]

Robert! posted:

A source would be great.

Like I said earlier, I can't seem to find any INTERNET proof, but I will go look at some older books to find it. But the balloons did exist.

Barrage balloons came into existence during the later stages of World War I, when the British were looking for assistance in reducing the German bombing threat. Steel cables suspended from balloons proved effective in imposing flight limitations on German bombers - limiting altitudes at which they could fly over Britain and closing off certain approaches.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_E-QOnTGFX_...0/LCI-w-bb.jpg

[ChestyMcGee]

azndude posted:

*quote from a helicopter page*

Assuming the HIND is moving laterally, there is still the huge issue of actually aiming at and hitting the helicopter while it is moving. Assuming it is moving directly towards whatever insane group is manning our, as yet, unproven steam-launcher grapple device, there is still the even bigger issue of getting blown the fuck up.

Furthermore, one would have to assume that the grapple is incredible quick to set up because one would never be able to know exactly where the HINDs where going to fly. Either that, or the grapple would have to have a length of rope hundreds and hundreds of metres (and I mean nearly a kilometre here) long.

[archangel125]

I've never heard an American say "Bloody Hell" before.

[azndude]

ChestyMcGee posted:

Assuming the HIND is moving laterally, there is still the huge issue of actually aiming at and hitting the helicopter while it is moving. Assuming it is moving directly towards whatever insane group is manning our, as yet, unproven steam-launcher grapple device, there is still the even bigger issue of getting blown the fuck up.

Furthermore, one would have to assume that the grapple is incredible quick to set up because one would never be able to know exactly where the HINDs where going to fly. Either that, or the grapple would have to have a length of rope hundreds and hundreds of metres (and I mean nearly a kilometre here) long.

You guys are missing the part where I said the Mi-24's had to be close to the ground. Of course they wouldn't fire if the target was a kilometer high.

Also, did they not fire RPGs at the Mi-24's during the war? Unguided rocket versus a moving target? Hmm?

Anyway, my friends made these responses after telling them about this.

Rinaldi posted:

As farfetched as it may seem to some, its quite possible. Your buddies know what they're talking about. The vietcong took down most USAF craft either by SAM sites hidden in the jungle, or close-in manual, shoulder launched weaponry - especially said "cable guns" for Hueys, the rotors were, naturally, the target of high tension and durable cables.

If you want to assure yourself of the truth behind this, just look at any youtube video of civilian helicopters close lining on power lines or the like. No further proof needed, if a telephone wire can cause a news chopper to flip, why not a high tension/load bearing cable to a military copter?

Skeen posted:

All jokes aside, I know about that tactic being used in Vietnam because I saw that on the Military Channel.

[Doc_Fisherman]

Can we stop arguing?
Its starting to be pointless argument...
Or stop filling up this thread...
Make piece why don't ya.

[pMnky]

Link to the skins, please?

Cool picture!

[tlsaudrl2548]

pMnky posted:

Link to the skins, please?

Cool picture!

that skin i made