1. Post #1
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    So we all know character variations are coming to Rust, What is interesting is that we might not have control over the variations made to our newmen.

    Undisclosed user
    the plan is to make a shitload of heads, then have skin tones randomizable
    then make each player random out of them, based on steamid so they can't change

    kulan
    What happens if you really don't like your face?. personally i would like a choice in the face i use to play.

    Undisclosed user
    you are born who you are
    you don't get to choose what you look like
    change your steamid if you don't like it
    So we could be anyone with no choice in gender or race,
    I was a bit dubious at first but i like the idea, would like to see gender as an option tho.
    I know we don't see are own faces but it might be weird to see females running round shouting "come back you Bastard" in really deep voices.
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  2. Post #2
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    would it change every time you die? that would make more sense, yet if i didn't like the way i looked i could always suicide until i found something i liked and would try to preserve

  3. Post #3
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    would it change every time you die? that would make more sense, yet if i didn't like the way i looked i could always suicide until i found something i liked and would try to preserve
    No it would never change, It would be linked to the Steamid only way to change players face would be to change your steamid

  4. Post #4
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    No it would never change, It would be linked to the Steamid only way to change players face would be to change your steamid
    The Steam Id cannot be changed, not even by Steam Support Staff.

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    Launch any Valve multiplayer game.
    Click Options.
    Select the Keyboard tab.
    Click the Advanced button.
    Check the box labeled Enable Developer Console.
    Click Apply and then click OK.
    Join or create a server.
    From the menu screen, press the tilde ~ key - typically in the upper left hand corner of the keyboard to load the Console.
    Type status into the console text field and press the Enter key.
    Your SteamID will be displayed next to your nickname in the console window.
    SteamID example: STEAM_0:1:1234567

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  5. Post #5
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    Yes GrymThor, I know it means a second account or using family share to have a new player model.

  6. Post #6
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    its a terrible idea

  7. Post #7
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    its a terrible idea
    Full conversation

    garry [7:07 PM]
    probably

    garry [7:07 PM]
    the plan is to make a shitload of heads, then have skin tones randomisable

    garry [7:07 PM]
    then make each player random out of them, base don steamid so they can't change

    kulan [7:09 PM]
    What happens if you really don't like your face?. personally i would like a choice in the face i use to play.

    garry [7:11 PM]
    tough shit

    sce_ghost [7:11 PM]
    lol garry

    kulan [7:11 PM]
    Funny

    sce_ghost [7:12 PM]
    not sure there was a humor there or not Kulan

    garry [7:13 PM]
    it's not

    garry [7:13 PM]
    you are born who you are

    garry [7:13 PM]
    you don't get to choose what you look like

    garry [7:13 PM]
    change your steamid if you don't like it

    sce_ghost [7:13 PM]
    haha very true

    sce_ghost [7:13 PM]
    umm what if your not a male

    kulan [7:13 PM]
    Steam Ids with good models are going to be a commodity. I know and i sort of get it. it's just a novel idea.

    sce_ghost [7:14 PM]
    I know the answer to that already.. Tough Shit...haha

    island55 [7:14 PM]
    You never see your face anyway

    harpo [7:14 PM]
    p2woman

    sce_ghost [7:15 PM]
    ^ Very true

    kulan [7:15 PM]
    good point @island55

    garry [7:15 PM]
    I played tomb raider ok and I'm not a woman

    wulfspider [7:15 PM]
    But that also wasn't an "MMO" sort of setup

    garry [7:16 PM]
    I don't understand the difference

    wulfspider [7:16 PM]
    ZOMG, a female character! Let's go talk to her.

    wulfspider [7:16 PM]
    Maybe she's hot.

    kulan [7:16 PM]
    I see a lot of deep voiced female for the future of rust,

    garry [7:16 PM]
    are you saying that if you're a black wheelchair dwarf we should make it so you can play a black wheelchair dwarf character

    wulfspider [7:17 PM]
    Ha no

    sce_ghost [7:17 PM]
    That was funny ^^^^^

    harpo [7:17 PM]
    question: will the wheelchair require a bp?

    wulfspider [7:17 PM]
    I'm just saying that some freedom may be good, though I expect issues either way.

    inlinevoid [7:17 PM]
    The freedom is what you wear

    wulfspider [7:18 PM]
    That's a type, sure

    wulfspider [7:19 PM]
    I don't care either way, I can just imagine the headache of some server owners with players complaining about what they look like, their gender, etc

    wulfspider [7:19 PM]
    HELP PLZ! I became a female! Can you delete my character so I can make it again?

    kulan [7:20 PM]
    More so gender ^

    wulfspider [7:20 PM]
    Yeah

    wulfspider [7:24 PM]
    It'll be nice to have some customization though either way.
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  8. Post #8
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    I can imagine the constant complaints about it, its too easy to raid, its too hard to raid, i don't like the cupboard, i don't like my face!

    It goes against my plan to start a Viking Raiding group, i need blond hair blue eyed bearded Nords to complete my plan.
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  9. Post #9

    February 2015
    45 Posts
    wouldn't darker people get an advantage at night? is rust supposed to be entirely luck based?

  10. Post #10
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    wouldn't darker people get an advantage at night?
    Not if they live in the Snow, that's where the white people would get the advantage, asians would would do well in the desert.
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  11. Post #11
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    I can imagine the constant complaints about it, its too easy to raid, its too hard to raid, i don't like the cupboard, i don't like my face!

    It goes against my plan to start a Viking Raiding group, i need blond hair blue eyed bearded Nords to complete my plan.
    It's something i had never thought of i always expected to be able to customise our newmen, But it sort of makes sense It mean we are always the same other players will know us by how we look, It will be strange for two people to look alike, so recognising friend will be easier, But I do think we should be able to pick a grender.

  12. Post #12
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    It's something i had never thought of i always expected to be able to customise our newmen, But it sort of makes sense It mean we are always the same other players will know us by how we look, It will be strange for two people to look alike, so recognising friend will be easier, But I do think we should be able to pick a grender.
    Yeah i agree, i'd like to be able to choose my gender, my eye, skin and hair color, i don't want to be Mongoloid or Negroid. Not cos i don't like them but because as i mentioned it doesn't fit in with my Nordic Domination Plans, for that to happen i need to be Caucasoid.

  13. Post #13

    January 2015
    102 Posts
    I for one am down with this. Is there a way to procedurally draw faces? Based on your steam ID?

    The only option I would protest for is the Choice of Gender. You simply need that option, you cannot have a random % of male/female. Way too many ppl would complain.

    New account-> Open Rust for first time-> Immediate decision if you want (to play) a male of female character. You then select either male or female and click ok, and this pops up:

    YOUR CHARACTER WILL BE PROCEDURALLY DRAWN. ONCE SEX IS SELECTED, THERE IS NO GOING BACK. YOU WILL BE ASSIGNED A MODEL AND IT WILL BE BOUND TO YOUR STEAM ACCOUNT, WITH IRREVERSIBLE CHANGES. DO YOU WISH TO CONTINUE? (Note: You must continue to play the game)

  14. Post #14
    attrib's Avatar
    June 2014
    108 Posts
    Haha, this will be so awesome!
    Imagine a fuckin' racist player having a black Newman ingame with the idea he will be like this FOREVER!

    I like Garry's "you are born who you are"-philosophy. This is how it works in real life, every human creature is the same eventually.
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  15. Post #15
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    April 2014
    1,824 Posts
    i think a choice in gender makes sense, but i'm down for random assignment of features etc tied to my steamid.
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  16. Post #16

    October 2012
    56 Posts
    its hilarious. i would like it to be permanent, you cant change your face, and its unique. maybe clans would form with in-game races ? i already imagine the blond hair master-race.

  17. Post #17
    Rahu X's Avatar
    December 2014
    84 Posts
    I like the idea of the randomization aspect, but I think it would be better suited to maybe a per server basis instead of a per SteamID basis.

    Every server you go on generates you as a different person. In a sense, you have a different identity on every server. Every server should also have the option to wipe appearances if they wish, though it should be something akin to wiping blueprints. Basically, identities shouldn't have to be wiped unless there's an update that effects them or the playerbase on the server chooses to start completely fresh, meaning not just a map wipe.

    And while I agree with Garry's stance of "you are born who you are", try telling that to a generation that seems to be in more and more of an identity crisis as the years go by. I'm sure if you were to say that to some transgender people, or people that identify as various ridiculous entities, you'd have those people jumping down your throat as much as they could.

    Though if they were to get their way, then we'd see some individuals playing Rust as furries, ponies, and random ass shit like a planet or a cloud. In which case, I think they'd honestly be more at home playing Garry's other game than Rust.
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