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Post #1With the latest version of rust on the (Version win/1161/0) The cupboard has made a house so you can't break into it. If you create a house and put a cupboard into it and bring all the walls and foundations to stone, we can not find a way to break into it. We have tried al the different tools, stone hatchet, metal hatchet and the salvage ax.
We can pound and pound on a stone wall or ceiling and it never goes down in health. If we can find a wood wall or foundation, we can get it to slowly demolished even with the cupboard turned on, but this is becoming rare and is usually noob and is no fun. This makes raiding other houses impossible to do and has brought the game to a stand still and kind of boring.
On our server we have a couple of groups that like to raid each other and now there is no way to pry someone out of their house. All they have to do, is sit in their house and do nothing and you have no way to get to them.
Has anyone else found a way to break down walls or break into a house?
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You can do it was 2 people with Salvaged axe's. Just takes a while.
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I have maintained my base ,intact with no apparent effects from attempted raiders. I do however know that it has been attempted,multiple times.
I agree, at this moment in time there is no apparent way to destroy a tier 4 house.
It is also true as I can attest in my raiding that really the only way to get in is either 1: a 100hp wood wall or foundation 2: peoples bases are entered due to not locking there door.
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maybe its the main point
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Breaking in is so easy.
First off use your stone hatchet for anything wood.
Use a salvaged hammer(Not a salvaged axe) for stone walls and stone foundations.
About 16 minutes 1 person per stone wall.
I had an unraidable base and challenged people to get in.
Well today for the first time after many attempts they did.
They had to destroy 2 stone foundations to get in but managed to do so.
You can also use f3 to get a better look at your entry point.
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If this so-called "exploit" gets patched and you can't build or place anything near a cupboarded structure, base-raiding in Experimental Rust will cease for anything buy small houses. That's fine, since the only thing new for a while now is the stability/building system... and building bases is what's required to test that system, not raiding them.
But this magical no-build bubble will go away... it MUST for Rust to be Rust. Everyone who desperately relies on the cupboard to maintain a relatively safe base needs to understand this... and Facepunch needs to be ready to ignore the outcry when it happens.
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Reap,
Do you know if the distance from the cupboard makes a difference? I was able to go over to a friends house and we were able to get a wall and a foundation to go down while beating on it using the Salvage hammer. However when we went over to someone else's house we wanted to raid, it had no effect. The only difference we could think of is the distance from the cupboard. Two of us pounding for two minutes had no effect.
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Must have been a bug or server lag.
Already seen it happen countless times.
You start pounding on a wall and what ever you do it will just not count down on its health bar.
Mostly right after you get kicked from the server but not always.
So to my knowledge it has nothing to do with the cupboard.
A salvaged hammer will beat the sh*t out of anything stone that is currently in the game.
As far as i could see it however does not damage the new metal floors.
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Props to you guys for having the patience to test it. I gave one of my own walls a few wacks with a hatchet, noticed the health didn't go down, shrugged, and went on about my way. I'd wondered how long it would take if you really tried, but didn't care enough to put the effort in myself.
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Ok, there is what I think a bug. I found that if you build in a cave and bring up your walls to stone, it seems that you can't break down wall or floors. I have gone to a number of caves where people have built inside of them and have not been able to break in. I have even put a rubber band on my mouse and sat there and hammered for 10 minutes on different parts and it had no effect.
However, one player on our server who built inside a cave and we have been trying to raid and failing had his whole house knocked down. He blames us, but we didn't do it. We were on about 2:00 am and when we came back the next morning, his house was completely gone and he was so pissed. We do not know who did it and how they did it. The only thing we can think of is he left his door open or unlocked and they got in that way.
Has anyone else been able to break into a house built into a cave and if you did how did you do it?
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Could've been an admin. I have a plugin on my server where I can remove any block placed by anyone merely by damaging it once. So basically, I can turn it on, whip out my Thompson, and blast your base into non-existence in a matter of seconds with no trace left behind. Otherwise, he just got raided the old fashioned way.
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I know the admin on this server and she did not do it and she is the only one with admin privileges. I consider myself good at raiding, but was unable to get into his house. The salvage hammer had no effect on his walls that I could get to. I even managed to get onto his ceiling and none of my tools would effect it also. It is also a bit funny as he was also the only one who was raided. Usually from my experience someone who is hacking goes around and does more damage to more than just one person.
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Hmmm. That's a good point. I usually only remove buildings/pieces from where someone was trying to build a stairway to heaven to get on top of my tower (just because it ruins the pretty landscape around my tower and looks out of place), where some d-bag randomly placed like a million foundations for no reason, or floating bases. I hate that cheesy sh*t. You're right though. Haxorz usually try to tear up as much stuff as possible being the little trolls that they are. You've given me inspiration to find a cave to build in so I can find out what the deal with that is. I'll have to try it out tonight (if I can pry myself off the girly friend for long enough).
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I have built in caves many times and this is a small glitch. Not a bad as a month ago, but still it is difficult to remove building pieces built in the cave. I even tried to bash my friend while he slept on a foundation and no matter what I did, crouch, lean, rotate nothing would kill him. This mainly relates to foundations. You can destroy with the hammer R+Clk though if you own the cupboard.
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Unless it was fixed in one of the most recent updates, building in caves is bugged. You can place anything, but hitting it for damage is very difficult. There is a sort of a "force field" around all objects in the cave that prevent you from hitting them. When you swing, you are actually hitting the cave walls, even though you are not facing a cave wall.
With the old building system, you had to place a frame, then stand inside the frame to get your hammer to hit it. Once you stepped out of the completed building part, you couldn't hit it again unless you found the perfect sweet spot, which was usually from underneath, which made it near impossible to destroy anything.
Melee fighting also wouldn't work. If you found a sleeper in a cave, the only way to kill them was to place a campfire under them and then light it.
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Like the fire, a sort of slow death :)
Agree x 1
