1. Post #1
    Dennab
    February 2014
    57 Posts
    Sorry if this has already been posted (I looked around but could only see the gun-sway thread, not a harvesting one)

    I really hope I'm in the minority here. Playing on the dev branch today and within five seconds of harvesting on the dev branch I start feeling dizzy and slightly sick. Two minutes later and - I'm not one to get motion sickness, never felt ill on a circus ride or a boat in my life - but after collecting 200 wood I feel like I've been packed inside a running dryer for half a minute.

    Has anyone else gone from regular (non-legacy) to dev branch this week and experienced dizziness and motion sickness with the new movements of the camera?

    This makes Rust unplayable for me on dev branch as it is. I would have paid $120 rather than just the 20 knowing all the fun I'd have with this game, but if this is it's future, I'm certainly not in it.

    (BTW: Same hardware, same monitor, same lighting in the room, same viewing angle etc etc ... only thing that's changed has been that sway)
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  2. Post #2
    KKB

    October 2014
    19 Posts
    lol yup i feel the same way.. it is unreal. if they do keep it like this. hope they will give us a option to turn it off.

    i could not even look at the screen when i was getting wood... one hell of a trip he was on when they made all this sway :P
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  3. Post #3
    rbZero says I'm the Troll King
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    April 2014
    1,827 Posts
    reduction would be nice. i think its intended to counterbalance the new "crosshair dot", but even i find it distracting.

  4. Post #4

    January 2014
    30 Posts
    I have never used the salvage hammer for this very reason, it gave me motion sickness, now its been applied to everything. If its to help counter the crosshair then give the option to turn off the crosshair and stop the sway.
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  5. Post #5

    January 2014
    127 Posts
    I play on the dev branch pretty exclusively.. so ive been dealing with this awful sway for a while now. its unbearable, EVERY SINGLE FRIEND of mine also hates it too.

    How someone could find this acceptable is beyond me, its just unbearable, its so bad id expect it to be a aprils fools joke honestly.

    for now id recommend just looking away from the screen as much as you can.
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  6. Post #6
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    Its awesome! but then I'm one of those people who think rollercoasters are divinely inspired blessings
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  7. Post #7

    January 2014
    30 Posts
    Comparing this effect to a roller coaster? methinks you never been on a roller coaster. Roller coasters produce adrenaline, and bring butterflies to your stomach, which makes the ride fun, never heard anyone state that the motion of the coaster is what makes it fun, but then you cant compare the two movements. This is more like a boat in rough water and you have only tiny port hole to look out of...

    If you enjoy headbanging you will probably love this effect.

  8. Post #8

    November 2014
    1 Posts
    Don't like this effect too.. i don't watch my screen when i farm..
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  9. Post #9

    January 2014
    127 Posts
    Its awesome! but then I'm one of those people who think rollercoasters are divinely inspired blessings
    I love rollercoasters, and the rocking of a boat on the ocean puts me to sleep... i don't get motion sickness not even playing with virtual reality... except with the current game camera rocking.... its jsut awful. Now i agree that weight to your actions is important, but the motion needs to be randomised some and towned way way down.
    And in 3rd person (which shouldn't be in the game IMO) it should be turned off.
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  10. Post #10
    Ram

    October 2014
    28 Posts
    I'm not prone to getting motion sick but after chopping down about 20 trees I don't feel right. 0/10 would not recommend. This has to go.
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  11. Post #11
    GrymThor's Avatar
    May 2014
    561 Posts
    I love rollercoasters, and the rocking of a boat on the ocean puts me to sleep... i don't get motion sickness not even playing with virtual reality... except with the current game camera rocking.... its jsut awful. Now i agree that weight to your actions is important, but the motion needs to be randomised some and towned way way down.
    And in 3rd person (which shouldn't be in the game IMO) it should be turned off.
    I was being sarcastic , i haven't tested the new motion nor have i been on a roller-coaster, but there is always that one person who wants to watch the world burn or goes in the opposite direction just because everyone is going the same way.

    Edited:

    Comparing this effect to a roller coaster? methinks you never been on a roller coaster. Roller coasters produce adrenaline, and bring butterflies to your stomach, which makes the ride fun, never heard anyone state that the motion of the coaster is what makes it fun, but then you cant compare the two movements. This is more like a boat in rough water and you have only tiny port hole to look out of...

    If you enjoy headbanging you will probably love this effect.
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  12. Post #12
    Dingby's Avatar
    October 2014
    20 Posts
    I got queasy just reading this topic lol
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  13. Post #13

    January 2014
    127 Posts
    Ok trying to rate comments on a moile phone is difficult im sorry to whomever I misclicked.

  14. Post #14
    frank_walls's Avatar
    October 2014
    652 Posts
    I don't get motion sickness from it, but it is annoying.

    I never really understood why developers put in exaggerated motion sway in games. In real life if you run around or hammer something you don't notice the bouncing much because our bodies compensate. Our heads may move but your eyes stay fixed on a target so the effect of movement is minimized.
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  15. Post #15

    November 2014
    9 Posts
    Here's my "review" of the camera sway:

    All Third Person Animations

    Awful. I've never been one to get motion sickness or anything like it, but I have to look away whenever I'm trying to hack down a wall in third person. I don't like it because I either have to go into first person and deal with the significantly louder sounds or go into third person and look away from the screen

    First Person Rock Animation

    Not a fan. It's just too "up and downy" for my taste, like your guy is just nodding his head while smashing stuff with a rock. I think it needs to have a little more diagonal sway, like you're really putting some effort into the swing by twisting your body.

    All Other First Person Animations (Hatchet, Ice Pick, etc.)

    These I actually really like, they feel perfectly on point for me.
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  16. Post #16
    Thor-axe's Avatar
    July 2014
    612 Posts
    God damnit, I'm getting so sick of these posts ending with "I liked the game but if this is whats gonna happen I'm taking my ball and going home". Ok, fuck you. Leave. A patch can't be live for less than 24 hours before people have a fucking life-crisis, and start threatening to leave, like anybody gives a fuck. You are not here and you did not buy the game to be catered to, and that's not what you're gonna get. It will get fixed, and then you'll find something to whine about from THAT patch no-doubt.
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  17. Post #17

    January 2014
    127 Posts
    God damnit, I'm getting so sick of these posts ending with "I liked the game but if this is whats gonna happen I'm taking my ball and going home". Ok, fuck you. Leave. A patch can't be live for less than 24 hours before people have a fucking life-crisis, and start threatening to leave, like anybody gives a fuck. You are not here and you did not buy the game to be catered to, and that's not what you're gonna get. It will get fixed, and then you'll find something to whine about from THAT patch no-doubt.
    Those of us that play on the dev branch have been e periencing the extreme sway for more then a week.
    Some friendly advice ... take a chill pill, dont get so worked up over what other people say... its not good for you.
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  18. Post #18

    October 2013
    860 Posts
    God damnit, I'm getting so sick of these posts ending with "I liked the game but if this is whats gonna happen I'm taking my ball and going home". Ok, fuck you. Leave. A patch can't be live for less than 24 hours before people have a fucking life-crisis, and start threatening to leave, like anybody gives a fuck. You are not here and you did not buy the game to be catered to, and that's not what you're gonna get. It will get fixed, and then you'll find something to whine about from THAT patch no-doubt.
    It will only get 'fixed' if people provide feedback that something is wrong.

    Folks may not always communicate their feedback the best, but regardless, the last thing this forum needs is another person calling people entitled, reminding them that the game is in alpha, and saying that their feedback is pointless. Trust me, there are a handful of folks who have that covered really well.
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  19. Post #19
    Thor-axe's Avatar
    July 2014
    612 Posts
    I've seen plenty of talks about the sway problem in other threads already, and there's a difference between saying "This isnt good because of reasons" and saying "I'm gonna leave if you don't change the thing I don't like." Most of us don't do the latter method, for good reason, and you're right, someone else will just come along and say the same.
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  20. Post #20

    October 2013
    860 Posts
    I've seen plenty of talks about the sway problem in other threads already, and there's a difference between saying "This isnt good because of reasons" and saying "I'm gonna leave if you don't change the thing I don't like." Most of us don't do the latter method, for good reason, and you're right, someone else will just come along and say the same.
    There's a difference between saying 'if they don't fix this, then I will choose not to play anymore out of spite' and 'if they don't fix, I won't be able to physically play this because it will make me sick.'
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  21. Post #21
    vachon644's Avatar
    February 2007
    1,116 Posts
    Some things are game breakers for some people. I noticed that many things that were supposed to be temporary in Rust actually went to become permanent in the game. Sometimes I feel like the devs don't even play Rust..
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  22. Post #22
    Thor-axe's Avatar
    July 2014
    612 Posts
    Some things are game breakers for some people. I noticed that many things that were supposed to be temporary in Rust actually went to become permanent in the game. Sometimes I feel like the devs don't even play Rust..
    Do you go back to your place of work after your shift ends to have fun?
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  23. Post #23
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    January 2014
    234 Posts
    If the game makes one sick then by all means I'd leave too.
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  24. Post #24
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    July 2007
    1,882 Posts
    Never experienced motion sickness in games until now, I thought I was a tough guy. :-(
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  25. Post #25
    Dingby's Avatar
    October 2014
    20 Posts
    After trying the dev branch i have to agree its awful not just the motion sickness but combat is a complete joke also. Please for the love if god dont include this with the update this week untill its improved.
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  26. Post #26
    Dennab
    February 2014
    57 Posts
    there's a difference between saying "This isnt good because of reasons" and saying "I'm gonna leave if you don't change the thing I don't like."
    I agree with you when that's actually the case.

    However for me this is nothing to do with 'not liking' a change. There are a lot of changes I haven't liked but I've always kept playing.

    In this thread I am explaining that Rust is now completely unplayable to me due to how physically ill it is making me, I'm asking if it's occurring to others, and leaving for the devs a record of it happening.

    Edited:

    Never experienced motion sickness in games until now, I thought I was a tough guy. :-(
    Same. I had no idea what motion sickness was until now.

    Edited:

    Some things are game breakers for some people.
    I assume I'd start throwing up and be sick for many hours if I were to keep playing, so yes.

    I suppose not having a computer at all would be a more severe game-breaker, but this one is fairly significant too.
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  27. Post #27
    Friendly Jon's Avatar
    November 2014
    56 Posts
    Do you go back to your place of work after your shift ends to have fun?
    Do you go into every thread to spew out the same "Fuck you, don't play then" crap? It's a fast way to get your post count up given the amount of bugs/issue threads... but come on! These forums are for people to comment on the new updates. This particular thread is about.... THE NEW UPDATE... and a potentially sickening flaw (pun intended), in which we (as in everyone but you) is conversing our opinions about.

    So back on topic..... I do not really understand the change, and why it was added. Surely when I swing a rock in real life my head doesn't mimic the rocks exact motion. Toning it down would be a fantastic start.

    EDIT* Also, when you swing the rock and it reaches maximum height in the swinging motion, it tends to clip through your head. Thank jebus it doesn't do damage...
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