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Post #121This is pretty pathetic.
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I hope everybody adds OP and his friends to their ban lists. If you're dumb enough to try and defend yourself on FP just because you got banned on one server, then provide evidence that you're blatantly using no recoil... You really deserve that
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The only recoil macros that I know of in Rust are ones that control vertical recoil. To say that he's not using one because it can't control horizontal seems ... perhaps more than a bit bizarre to me.
The macro concept is a way to get it back into the realms of possibility; something in my opinion that only the last entry on your list even comes close to doing.
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Are you guys still going with this ? lol. It's kinda funny actually... everytime a topic like this popup you realise this forum is full of especialists in detecting hackers. I've seen dozens of topics like this where the guy was clearly inocent but most of you guys spammed the entire forum acusing him of hacking.
I remember when bchillzz started posting videos in here and all you " hack specialists " were so sure he was hacking as well. And i can say is.. you guys are full of shit. No offense but you guys will never be 100% sure if he is hacking or not and to be honest i dont like the idea of calling someone a hacker, reporting his twitch channel when you are not sure if he is or not.
I'm not saying i think he is a hacker and i'm not saying he is not a hacker either i'm merely giving him the benefit of the doubt here. I'm 100% sure most of you guys were called hackers as well, most of you guys already got banned when you were playing clean. I'm also sure you guys already made some big plays that if saw someone else doing that you would scream " HACKER HACKER HACKER ". So for the love of god.. let this go... If he is hacking, well he will get banned eventually... If he is not hacking.. well played.
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So bad.
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I have never heard this used once in England, or anywhere.
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i blame wikipedia XD
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http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198140952631
This is zero's new account trying to bypass bans.
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Any proof of that? There's nothing wrong with buying the game again after a VAC ban... just gives the devs more money to develop the game more.
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He's not using a macro because he's countering the randomly generated horizontal recoil which is literally impossible for a macro to counter consecutively. If he can counter rng burst movement then it is safe to assume that he can counter the ever so simple predictable vertical recoil. Which brings us back to the list of three I written previously unless anyone else can add plausible numbers to that said list.
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https://forums.wwofr.com/showthread.php?t=137
Proof of rbzero creating a new account to play on the server
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He wasn't VAC banned, his name was ruined because he was caught cheating. I posted this to warn people who they're dealing with incase they update their ban lists based off of stuff like this.
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Careful guys I've seen a guy called Heisenberg around months ago as well. Might have been his fallback fake profile in the past but make sure you don't mix up Zero and an innocent player :P.
TP_MoonStar dude have you not read anything that we said? He can get away with his hacks if he for instance uses a macro mouse to do it. VAC won't detect that and more and more hacks have been coming out that are undetectable by VAC. It's important that people record and get proof on hackers so they'll be well-known to the community. If Zero's video isn't enough proof of no recoiling than nothing is.
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If he can Y he can X because Y is more difficult than X. Sounds like a rock-solid argument, right? Until you realize they're not independent events.
Hackusations are based on weighted gradients of evidence and won't always fit into the black-and-white boxes some people like to carry around with them. In this instance the equation is Y plus X adding to the likelihood of cheating, not 'Y > X means he wasn't using something to ameliorate X.' Y plus X is considerably different than exclusively Y or exclusively X. That difference is one of the strongest reasons I have for suggesting that a macro may have been involved.
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Let's be honest, the truth is that the first two on your list are just a veiled way of calling people ignorant.
Now I'm not perfect (well, I'd at least put it up for debate), I don't know everything (or so I've been told), and I'm sure there are plenty of things that happen in Rust that I didn't know could occur, but those fifteen hundred hours on my profile weren't all spent east of hacker or in wastelands wandering around lost (yeah, some of it was), most of it was spent PVPing and chatting to server owners and admins, and I haven't kept count of how many dozens of Rust videos I've watched but I'm guessing it's in the hundreds. So to suggest that my conclusions might be drawn from ignorance about how the game works seem a little off the mark.
Which means that, based on my experiences, I'm happy to disregard the first two items on your list, and while the third doesn't seem likely (he'd have to be one of the better actors I've seen), it does remain plausible.
My addition to that list (of one), as I've been attempting to convey, is this: Vertical recoil controlled by macro and some incredible luck on horizontal spray for that section of the video. I'm not saying that IS what happened. I'm saying that it's the only thing that even seems plausible to me outside a bluff.
Not that any of it matters. The discussion has been fun.
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yeah, looks like upset beleives it to be him. and if you listen to cuban's video, i'm pretty sure heisenberg is zero by voice... boy doesnt learn huh.
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Annnd he removed the contents of all his posts in this thread. Cool.
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wow, what a coward. starts a thread, flames at the opinions of the people he asked for opinions, gets banned, restarts on the same server under an assumed name, comes back and deletes all the posted content from his replies in an attempt to reduce the blowout from his own behaviour.
internet hero to the max.
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thread is so old,i started it because the server admin told me to. Secondly rejoined the server on my friends account to play the game because of this worthless flame war I'm banned and branded a cheater when I don't cheat. While being in the server I actually had fun raiding 1 of the cry babys of the server who would accusate me and I later found out he only wanted me banned cause I got 1 of his friends with a vac ban almost banned. You can clearly see in the video my bullets aren't on the same exact location. If I had " no recoil" they would be on the same spot. Its alright tho you trolling faggots will be happy to know I have uninstalled rust because the community is shit, the game is going no where fast they keep promising updates and refuse to give results. The anti-cheat system is trash, which according to most of you so is VAC something obv used by a major gaming industry which you prob have no idea how a VAC ban even works. This is my final post on this thread im not coming back to this website for any reason other then to read the troll responces. Also I deleted all my old posts due to the fact that like I knew it would be from the start a waste of time posting on this website. Since I started this post i'm also requesting that the administrators of this website close this fucking thread already its a waste of space. Oh and I find it even more hilarious that players with VAC bans are being unbanned from the very server this bullshit started on. Good Job upsetstarship your making your players proud! How was that 12$ morgan standley paid to help entice me being banned doing for you? Yea he told me about that also. Nice 1 bro ruin my reputation because your fucking server needed more players. L8r Forum trolls.
(User was permabanned for this post ("Rude, refuses to read the development blog, leaving." - postal))
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who gives a f.
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i'm pretty sure upset is a chick, but anyway, dont really care.
justify it however you want. you started the thread, then when you didn't approve of the responses you were given, you attacked the respondants, and eventually deleted all of your posts like a child throwing a tantrum. take responsibility for your actions...personally, i have more pride than to delete the content of my posts based on the fallout i receive from them. if i have said something, let the record show every word, come hell or high water.
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Most of his comments were "what kid?" "gtfo child" lolzhaxxor no noob" etc. so I guess he finally realized how silly that was but this is even more pathetic to actually delete them :D . First I thought he was a child judging from what he replied but then I heard his voice and ... meh . Thing is if he used a macro he won't get VAC banned , he will keep playing on an alt account just so he won't be recognized and that's it . Cya rbzero
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If rust is so shit why did you pay $20 to play on a server you hate for a day?
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Zero y u so angry at me bud
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After making his speech about quitting and uninstalling he's already started playing and streaming rust again.
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BAN
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You are banned. It is over stop crying and go cheat at something else like my little pony online.
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I never asked you to post this, the thread on our server forums is enough.. Remember you wanted to get the Rust community to watch the video because you believed that everyone on the server was against you?
People with VAC bans being unbanned? Who? You can see ALL unbans here (no ban has ever been removed without a ban appeal post).
I'm 28, you think I'd take $12 to ban someone? You must be really gullible because you were obviously trolled with that.
- UpsetStarship
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I didnt tell him i donated to get him banned lol he just makin shit up. That whole last rage post was directed at me
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So, he's been permabanned for several days, now. Can we stop talking about him? He's leaving and never coming back (and the mods'll enforce that decision if they apply the usual rules), so let's move on, maybe?
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rbzero joined my server too , was alot of trouble as you can see here
http://steamcommunity.com/id/isuckbigballs/ Steamid:76561198000693737
rb | Zero: lol? i heard your admin on that server i legit was in for prob 20 min and got banned?
rb | Zero: why?
TheChickenMan: haha
TheChickenMan: i know who u are
rb | Zero: i have not done shit to you or your server
TheChickenMan: thats why
rb | Zero: you obv dont
TheChickenMan: no just the rust community
rb | Zero: if your judgemental off troll facepunch forums
rb | Zero: twitch.tv/rbzero0
TheChickenMan: haha i dont care
TheChickenMan: same thing u said on there
rb | Zero: look @ my highlights
rb | Zero: bro
rb | Zero: why you so judgemental
rb | Zero: i dont know you
TheChickenMan: i used to run tacongaming.com
rb | Zero: why you acting like that
rb | Zero: can't you use benifit of the doubt?
TheChickenMan: i banned u and rekt there too
rb | Zero: tacongaming.com?
TheChickenMan: and i saw your friend jump of a cliff
TheChickenMan: yep
rb | Zero: that guy i just met
rb | Zero: as i join server
rb | Zero: i can't speak 4 him
rb | Zero: he just asked cuz i was like wtf
TheChickenMan: http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1410028
TheChickenMan: its cool man
rb | Zero: You do know that i have recoil
rb | Zero: look @ the video
TheChickenMan: idk what u say
rb | Zero: i can talk you threw it
rb | Zero: so you understand
TheChickenMan: im adding all this to the fourm post too
rb | Zero: thats fine
rb | Zero: im legit
rb | Zero: so
rb | Zero: idc
TheChickenMan: no your not
rb | Zero: i can talk you threw the video
rb | Zero: yea i am
rb | Zero: your just blind
rb | Zero: i stream everyday
rb | Zero: and get stream sniped
TheChickenMan: www.TheRustyChicken.net
TheChickenMan: have a good day sir
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I lol'd
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this is the response i kind of expect he will receive from almost EVERY server he joins under that name...but i will say posting it here is a bit like beating a dead horse. ban him if you want (i would if i saw him, mostly due to his behaviour within this thread rather than the no-recoil) but otherwise not much reason to continue embarrassing him:/
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I played on one server with him and me and my group rekt him and his friends so they left the server. Then we see him on the next server and suddenly he was rekin everyone.. He then got banned for hacking lol.
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