[bloodshinx]

i completely agree Karon


i was playing on 2 servers full of 50+ players

Now just for a detail change (no server starting with special character in the list of servers), servers are empty, community is broke, and all our game is down, people don't understand why.

NOTHING ON STEAM
NOT ENOUGH ON PLAYRUST
Too much on twitter, nobody look at twitter


That's not because it is an alpha that Garry should do thing before cheking up everything ok
He got all the time he want to do his change, i hope he would do them properly.


Don't tell me there is no time

The game could still be in Alpha in a year.

Edited:

i really think Garry fucked up with the new change of showing servers... There is nothing bad calling a server

[UK]
[FR]
[EU] ...

Wtf... now the whole server list is nonsense

Why does the dev are applying patch without a step back from the reality?

[Gin_Ja]

I had the same thing last night. Joined a server and it took at least 5 times longer to just load in. Then when it was about to become daylight my game just froze for about 30 seconds to a minute. I could hear the ambient sound and animals moving around, but i was unable to move. Then all of a sudden it's back and it was dawn. Can you please address this issue Garry? Thanks

I'll record my game play today and if it happens again I'll post a video on here.

[Brengun]

elixwhitetail = TROLL
Just ignore the clown

[icelord2]

Karon posted:

I don't know who you think you are, but you are full of shit. If you are some random Forum user, stfu and let the devs speak for themself.
If you are part of the Facepunch team, well, my friend saw the facepunch logo when I wanted to show him rust and his first response was "wait, facepunch? too bad, they are all assholes." I didn't believe him then, but in this case I would.


There are three Sources to look at.
First and most important one: Steam.

People buy it on steam and they expect to find important notes relating to the game on Steam. there is no notice on steam that links to some Twitter changelog page.

Second one: Playrust.com

Frontpage: Dev blogs.
Aboutpage: https://twitter.com/playrust No changelogs
FAQ: only thing answered there is: CAN I HAZ MONEY???


If you think that people will search through six pages of dev blogs just to MAYBE find some link they DONT EVEN KNOW THAT EXISTS then you are stupid.

Third one: forum

Same thing, the only sticky Threads are one thread in which you treat your customers like garbage (We don't care about things you want to report us etc) and a "WE BANN YOU!!!11111oneoneeleven" thread. Yeah KKTHXBB

Oh, and if you actually say that you can't find a changelog and that you find this sad, fanboys like elixwhitetail will bash you for not knowing that there could be maybe somewhere on page 2314523 a small notice that there is a second twitter account that is nowhere mentioned aside from said little notice on page 2314523 and that you are to blame for not reading the note on page 2314523.


BTW:
So the definition for "Stupid and doubled up characters" is now everything besides letters and numbers by default? Yeah I smell some braindamage.

They post all the same stuff on Steam, its funny you have time to go through the forums, but you cant go through a couple dev blogs. http://steamcommunity.com/app/252490/announcements

and you will find the twitter is https://twitter.com/RustUpdates

Garry has been posting all the changes in the dev blogs every week and if you havent learned that then you have bigger issues and probably shouldnt be playing the alpha

[mrknifey]

Karon posted:

There are three Sources to look at.
#1: Steam. no, that's the second place to look. go to playrust.com for the devblog each week or important updates, on the very first page. that said, steam discussion boards are about as active as the forums, so you should be able to find some details there with some searching

People buy it on steam and they expect to find important notes relating to the game on Steam. there is no notice on steam that links to some Twitter changelog page. true

#2: Playrust.com
Frontpage: Dev blogs. that's exactly where you need to look, and the comments about the branch update are right there at the top
Aboutpage: https://twitter.com/playrust

#3: forum use the search function. and the forum is moderated, but you are looking for threads started by garry for official information. the sticky threads are a one time read just to clarify the mods expectations of your behaviour, nothing worth looking at in there

#4: there is a website hosted by one of the forum users that lists literally every changelog in chronological order. i'l try and find it, and post later

Oh, and if you actually say that you can't find a changelog and that you find this sad, fanboys like elixwhitetail will bash you for not knowing that there could be maybe somewhere on page 2314523 a small notice that there is a second twitter account that is nowhere mentioned aside from said little notice on page 2314523 and that you are to blame for not reading the note on page 2314523.people like elix are sick of repeating themselves. i am too. that's not your fault, but if you do a decent forum search you will be able to get somewhere. or yknow, just ask nicely instead of being a cock about it. elix has friendly posts too

So the definition for "Stupid and doubled up characters" is now everything besides letters and numbers by default? Yeah I smell some braindamage.this is a stupid, angry comment and should probably be ignored, but I'll address it. the dev's can make any damn decision they like, and if they want to simplify server names to stop people spamming symbols to move the server up the list, that's their choice, regardless of the side effects.

[yurivw]

It's obvious that the update had some bad coding in it resulting in random lag spikes that lasts for about 1-2 minutes. Let's just hope for a Hotfix soon.

[bloodshinx]

Rust is the only game to have such problem after every update

Devs don't check their update before applying to the FUCKING MILLION PLAYERS?

[Perl]

bloodshinx posted:

Rust is the only game to have such problem after every update

Devs don't check their update before applying to the FUCKING MILLION PLAYERS?

The million players who shouldn't be complaining about this after it has already been reported.
Please stop whining and accept that the game isn't finished yet.

You didn't pay to play Rust before it is released.
You paid to help the development of Rust and as a bonus you can have a chance to play a buggy mess that will eventually be rust.

[Karon]

icelord2 posted:

They post all the same stuff on Steam, its funny you have time to go through the forums, but you cant go through a couple dev blogs. http://steamcommunity.com/app/252490/announcements

and you will find the twitter is https://twitter.com/RustUpdates

Garry has been posting all the changes in the dev blogs every week and if you havent learned that then you have bigger issues and probably shouldnt be playing the alpha

Garry posts his new models and what not in his devblogs. Before the experimental addition to the Live Launcher I didn't even know that they abandoned the game and cash the money to do a revamp.

I bought Rust 3 months ago and all I saw/see in the Dev blogs are some new models which are never implemented in the game I bought, downloaded and play. They advertise the old game, so why should I know that they are scamming people by advertising something they are no longer developing? And then, all of a sudden after 3 Months with just a few blogs about how they made a new spear animation or a new skybox I am told that there is a experimental version that they update on a regular basis.

And if you think that a devblog is a changelog, please go see a doctor.


and the link you postet is only in the most recent Dev blog and even it this one it is masked behind "get live updates as they are committed." and not like "See our Twitter account for changes" or something like that.

no, that's the second place to look. go to playrust.com for the devblog each week or important updates, on the very first page. that said, steam discussion boards are about as active as the forums, so you should be able to find some details there with some searching

For me, the place where I buy something that has a built in community function is the first place to look, but I think that is irrelevant in the end if it is #1 or #2.

Dev blogs. that's exactly where you need to look, and the comments about the branch update are right there at the top

there is not one single changelog in the dev blogs. They are, as the name says, blogs about their progression and what they do at the moment, and not a list of things that got updated in patch 0.3.x or so. Most blogs I've skimmed through are like

"I've been working on model X, while developer Y has finished the texture of model Z"

use the search function. and the forum is moderated, but you are looking for threads started by garry for official information. the sticky threads are a one time read just to clarify the mods expectations of your behaviour, nothing worth looking at in there

I don't even know which thread is started by who, how to see who started it, and I don't care for it. This game is a Alpha in Early Access. the game is actively developed. Why should I need to search a forum for a possible hint to the changelogs if the changelogs are the second most important information the customer could get?

#4: there is a website hosted by one of the forum users that lists literally every changelog in chronological order. i'l try and find it, and post later

Thank you, that would be very nice of you.

people like elix are sick of repeating themselves. i am too. that's not your fault, but if you do a decent forum search you will be able to get somewhere. or yknow, just ask nicely instead of being a cock about it. elix has friendly posts too

If I know that I will be treated like shit if I ask, why should I bring the effort to ask nicely?

this is a stupid, angry comment and should probably be ignored, but I'll address it. the dev's can make any damn decision they like, and if they want to simplify server names to stop people spamming symbols to move the server up the list, that's their choice, regardless of the side effects

I think you misunderstand what I wanted to say. Of course it's their thing what filters they apply, it's just that this comment, posted as part of a changelog, is not, by any definition of the word, a changelog. There is no useful information in "stupid characters are not allowed anymore". "Stupid" is not defined in chosing a server name and therefore it could mean literally anything.


Just compare what he wrote with what he could've written:

"Don't show servers with stupid and doubled up characters in their names"

vs

"Only Servers that begin with latin Letters will be listed in the games server list"

[icelord2]

Karon posted:

Garry posts his new models and what not in his devblogs. Before the experimental addition to the Live Launcher I didn't even know that they abandoned the game and cash the money to do a revamp.

I hate to break it to you but the devblogs are the changelogs. if you would actually read the devblogs you would see

A reminder, everything we commit is live tweeted to this twitter account. Then those commits are automatically built by our build servers and made live instantly on the experimental branch on Steam. Everything we’re posting about here is available right now on Steam.

He even post the twitter account for you again, which was posted in a couple devblogs. He even states that the changes are now live in the experimental branch of steam.

and the steam link i posted is found when you click view update history for rust

just because they dont say
- Fixed Bug X
- Added Y

doesnt make it not a change log. Garry actually gives you more details on what has changed by showing you pictures and videos and describing what is going on. The devblog is a mix of change logs and what is also being worked on behind the scenes.

We try to be nice but if people would just take 5 mins of their time they can figure all this stuff out on their own.

[almosttactful]

Just downloaded another 25MB patch for Rust, is this the lag fix?

[Pyroknight]

Karon posted:

I don't know who you think you are, but you are full of shit. If you are some random Forum user, stfu and let the devs speak for themself.
If you are part of the Facepunch team, well, my friend saw the facepunch logo when I wanted to show him rust and his first response was "wait, facepunch? too bad, they are all assholes." I didn't believe him then, but in this case I would.


There are three Sources to look at.
First and most important one: Steam.

People buy it on steam and they expect to find important notes relating to the game on Steam. there is no notice on steam that links to some Twitter changelog page.

Second one: Playrust.com

Frontpage: Dev blogs.
Aboutpage: https://twitter.com/playrust No changelogs
FAQ: only thing answered there is: CAN I HAZ MONEY???


If you think that people will search through six pages of dev blogs just to MAYBE find some link they DONT EVEN KNOW THAT EXISTS then you are stupid.

Third one: forum

Same thing, the only sticky Threads are one thread in which you treat your customers like garbage (We don't care about things you want to report us etc) and a "WE BANN YOU!!!11111oneoneeleven" thread. Yeah KKTHXBB

Oh, and if you actually say that you can't find a changelog and that you find this sad, fanboys like elixwhitetail will bash you for not knowing that there could be maybe somewhere on page 2314523 a small notice that there is a second twitter account that is nowhere mentioned aside from said little notice on page 2314523 and that you are to blame for not reading the note on page 2314523.


BTW:
So the definition for "Stupid and doubled up characters" is now everything besides letters and numbers by default? Yeah I smell some braindamage.

Best first post ever.

[Lady Blade]

The server lags 3 minutes before sunrise and sunset.
Uber Hunting Bows are broken and do not work
Holo sights do not show a reticle

That's all I know for now until I look further into things...

[Bastwiest]

We have crosshairs now, wtf!?

[retardbatman]

Seeing as this has become a bit of a collection thread for problems regarding the last update I might as well ask here.
In the non experimental version, is anyone else having problems with no reticle showing up in the Holo Sight?

[hippowombat]

jesus fuck this thread

[Karma.]

It does take longer for the game to load after the update. As for lag not really.

[CSKKILLER]

Mr Vengeance posted:

Did they not test before updating?

Anyway I hope all these issues can be fixed

The FPS drop (JAM)
Very slow connecting to server speed
Not being able to throw supply signal

and no radical on holo site

[infusednz]

Wasn't this fixed last night?

[CSKKILLER]

retardbatman posted:

Seeing as this has become a bit of a collection thread for problems regarding the last update I might as well ask here.
In the non experimental version, is anyone else having problems with no reticle showing up in the Holo Sight?

Yes

[TheNewConrad]

Just let servers have these characters in them on the server list. My lord, was it really worth removing and making everyone mad over colored characters?

[Brengun]

Hi Garry,
I read 2 Tweets about the Legacy version being reverted back but we are still in the new broken version?
Is the rollback happening?

https://twitter.com/RustUpdates/stat...85061825495040
https://twitter.com/RustUpdates/stat...51986643435520

[mrknifey]

@karon

here ya go mate:) had to enlist help, but found in the end.

http://rustguide.info/misc/notes/experimental/

[Eunson]

I freeze for about 20 seconds straight every 5minutes or so. This lag is game breaking and will not play until fixed.

[JimmyFritter]

Eunson posted:

I freeze for about 20 seconds straight every 5minutes or so. This lag is game breaking and will not play until fixed.

Yeah this needs to be addressed ASAP, you can quick fix it by turning night and day cycles off. However it will dissappear ur server form the list and send it to modded server list....

[BaSkA_]

Hunting bow sucks so much dick right now.
I see so many people saying they have a sticker or something to the middle of their screen, shit, even I'm considering it now as well.

[Someone elese]

Yep, i cant even join my own server and everything is so slow.

[Enticer]

Yep, much longer load time and lag, but only at night. Not sure that helps the devs, but the lag only happens during night on my server. Oh and it is bad lag!

[Yams]

Thanks for making my game load slower. Really don't mind the extra time to beat off before I get into game. Finally I have enough time to clean the cum off of my hands before I touch my keyboard and mouse.

[Bastwiest]

Yams posted:

Thanks for making my game load slower. Really don't mind the extra time to beat off before I get into game. Finally I have enough time to clean the cum off of my hands before I touch my keyboard and mouse.

That's realy subtle, loading time is about 30 sec. now so I guess you work on that before you got a girlfriend.

[kunboy]

Please solve the lag problem, people are leaving the servers coz that.

Other issue I have detected is a bug that not allows to use remove. Tested with a workbench, furnace and Barricade. The console says something like that "You are under attack and you can't remove that". :s

[dreadlocks]

After downloading the patch this morning I have not had any lag on my server day or night and the Holo sight is working again :) Thank you.

[kulan]

Been running round my server today, and no lag not even when day changes to night and vice-versa, look like everything is sorted.

good thing about the change and that rust legacy broke is that now the Steam populous now have some idea of what they brought, as 90% of them did not have a clue about how far along in development the game is or that rust legacy would not be the building platform for the finished game.

I am still unsure if this was a very intelligent move from facepunch to highlight the development of rust or just some code error.

either way there are less "where is the update" posts on steam forums which is a good thing :)

[Azerty]

Got them too

[elixwhitetail]

kunboy posted:

Please solve the lag problem, people are leaving the servers coz that.

Other issue I have detected is a bug that not allows to use remove. Tested with a workbench, furnace and Barricade. The console says something like that "You are under attack and you can't remove that". :s

Nah, they're not going to fix the lag, ever. Everyone will just have to deal with it for the next two years while they completely ignore the lag issue and develop the rest of the game.

But in all seriousness, this is an alpha. Shit breaks.

Also, it's not Garry's problem if mods break. They're unsupported at the moment. And in any modding community, major updates almost always break mods and the mods need to be updated. Discussion of broken mods belongs in the Rust Modding subforum, in the appropriate thread.

Edited:

kulan posted:

I am still unsure if this was a very intelligent move from facepunch to highlight the development of rust or just some code error.

either way there are less "where is the update" posts on steam forums which is a good thing :)

"You want a fucking update? Here, here's your fucking update."