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Prov3rbial · 29th April 2014

LEAST LIKELY SCENARIO
-- Buys Rust
-- Can't get Rust to work because an anti-cheat (which isn't on in Rust right now) keeps crashing
-- Decides against going through normal channels to resolve issue (which is odd, because he seems technologically literate enough to know how to bypass an anti-cheat, but not enough to understand that bypassing an anti-cheat will get him banned, or at least thought he could fight the ban)
-- Bypasses anti-cheat, gets banned
-- Can't get it overturned
-- Whines endlessly

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO
-- Buys Rust
-- Bypasses an anticheat
-- Hacks at Rust
-- Gets banned
-- Makes up really elaborate, oft-times contradictory story, admitting a small crime to preclude a bigger one (which is liar 101, by the way)
-- Whines endlessly.

Anyway, yeah, nobody believes you. Your story follows the same track as every other dumbass who wants us to side with him against VAC. The chances of your story being genuine are extremely low, and even if on some insane off-chance it is, you've already admitted to doing something you should not have done. Either you're a hacker and a liar or very, very stupid (but surprisingly apt at using computers for somebody so dumb).

hippowombat · 29th April 2014

Prov3rbial posted:

LEAST LIKELY SCENARIO
-- Buys Rust
-- Can't get Rust to work because an anti-cheat (which isn't on in Rust right now) keeps crashing
-- Decides against going through normal channels to resolve issue (which is odd, because he seems technologically literate enough to know how to bypass an anti-cheat, but not enough to understand that bypassing an anti-cheat will get him banned, or at least thought he could fight the ban)
-- Bypasses anti-cheat, gets banned
-- Can't get it overturned
-- Whines endlessly

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO
-- Buys Rust
-- Bypasses an anticheat
-- Hacks at Rust
-- Gets banned
-- Makes up really elaborate, oft-times contradictory story, admitting a small crime to preclude a bigger one (which is liar 101, by the way)
-- Whines endlessly.

Anyway, yeah, nobody believes you. Your story follows the same track as every other dumbass who wants us to side with him against VAC. The chances of your story being genuine are extremely low, and even if on some insane off-chance it is, you've already admitted to doing something you should not have done. Either you're a hacker and a liar or very, very stupid (but surprisingly apt at using computers for somebody so dumb).

"And now back to the Smartest Dumbass Awards show, presented by Facepunch, sponsored by Valve, thanks for watching."

ForgotMySand · 30th April 2014

bypass is still a hack used to bypass anti-hacks to be able to hack.
the only reason why cheatpunch would stop working is because you tried to use hacks and they block the ip of the cheatpunch from sending reports therefore a game modification.
so you hacked prior to cheatpunch not working.
vac detected game mods to there files
aka you hacked.

Stradosphere · 30th April 2014

Jinx .I admire your effort and patience,really ! All the time,you are just giving same answers but they (cheaters) keep comin' and creating dem threads about "Vac ban for unusual stuff".

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Enterpriser posted:

Yes, i admitted it, but it's that bad if it works?

My intentions weren't bad, i wouldn't ruin nobody experience, i didn't want to hack too, but seems like nobody experienced that impotence sensation when something goes wrong, in that support.

Maybe my habits were with Riot Support, which is human even with a schedule, and at least it tries to help you with that sound human, but does it sound human when you put your pc specs on a ticket and then they answer you asking for pc specs? Guess not.

That's what's so bad with support.
That's what's unjust with VAC.
That's what sucks on Steam.

Feels like nobody is human except your friends.
VAC is just a program that scans your computer and searches for files onto a db, and it bans you, sad thing it doesn't know why you did that.
Even if i go to Valve, nobody will help me to get something out of this problem, cause nobody is really interested there.
Nobody choses to be a supporter there.
I'll do if i could have a chance.
Cause I like to stay with people and try to be helpful.
Being quick will not be a part of my job, but i'll try to understand people. I'd rather risk my job for a person who encountered an error, than keeping my job and see that a person wastes money for it.

What happens if you purchase Galactic Civ III and you get banned? That game costs 92.99€, you know.

Now,you are telling it like a love story chico,well i know my answer is gonna little bit late.Let me ask you one question ?

You are talking about being human or humanity,yet you are just trying to trick all the human beings on this forum,because for your own good.What happens to your humanity,after your unfair advantage against those who play their game fairly ? What happens all these people got head shot from 1km away with 9mm Pistol and their anger and sadness ?

So tell me how do you expect a "human response" after your actions ? Vac does not need to have emotions or thinking ability.It detects anomalies and gives response to them.You are just wasting your time here,nothing will bring your account back on this forum.

How is that hard to understand,that Facepunch Studios and Valve are different companies ?

"What happens if you purchase Galactic Civ III and you get banned? That game costs 92.99€, you know"
Then don't hack,so you won't get banned.That is so simple.Also you accepted Valve's agreement in the first place while creating an account for yourself and downloading their software.So you can't do anything.You disabled in-game anti-cheat system and crying here ? And your intentions are not so evil ?

Well played,chico

V10lator · 30th April 2014

Enterpriser posted:

V10lator, early-access means especially a warning cause a game isn't finished, and if a game's not finished you should be aware that it can freeze on the alpha state.

Read on wikipedia:

Alpha software can be unstable and could cause crashes or data loss.

(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...fe_cycle#Alpha )

Wow. Such forbidden. much h4x3d,very crazy! Wow.
Really, now, modding is forbidden into the Terms of Service, Rust EULA and Copyright laws.

No, modding per se is not. Changing the executables/libraries (exe/dll files) however is:

you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, publish, distribute, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Software or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve.

(Source: http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ )
I can't find the Rust EULA right now, but it contains the same. For copyright laws ask your lawyer.

Do you violate any copyright law by modifying a file?

When it's forbidden by the EULA (EULA = End User License Agreement. You don't own the software, you just have a license to use it! As you don't own it you're not allowed to modify it. Ask your lawyer if you don't believe) then yes, you violate copyright laws.

Maybe that's forbidden, yes

Oh, so now you say it is fobidden *facepalm*

but should i ask for a refund to facepunch if the game i just bought doesn't work, or wait for an update, which can come right now or never, without a chance to predict it and without knowing if it will come out?

Yes, exactly that's what you should do. Do you have any kind of commom sense?

For the one that said that EAC is inactive now, then why it was included in my download on Steam, and there was a file named EAC.exe with some files into the folder EasyAntiCheat? just to make you download more?

For that you have to ask FB Studios, but I guess the answer is something like "see it as a pre-download so it's there when it's needed and the update to enable it can be extremely small".

Either you're a troll or a idiot. This is my last reply to you as you lack common sense. Go to your lawyer and try to sue Valve, you might see him laugh about you, too. Also:

I know, it may be forbidden, but if you're not doing anything with it, why the banhammer speaks

Really? "I know it may be forbidden to rob a bank, but if you're not doing anything with the stolen money, why police arrests you?" - "It might be forbidden to wear a weapon in my country, but if you're not doing anything with it..." - "it might be forbidden to own drugs, bug if you're not doing anything with it..." ... Thanks for the laughs, I'm out...

Gliktch · 2nd May 2014

Stradosphere posted:

Words.And.Stuff,chico

Back to schooool...

http://www.aps4kids.org/HollomanMidd...subpage=153371

lstraath · 19th June 2014

lolo posted:

In their ToS you signed, they reserve the right to lock your account or ban you from whatever they want without a reason.

Altough companies do like to make such statements and let you sign them they almost never have value in all countries. I live in Holland and i can tell you if you would get them for a court here they would lose because there is extensive customer protection in Holland. So don't think if you sign something it has value, if what you sign is agains local law it has no value at all. Problem with VAC ban is that Valve's intention is good but their system is no proof. I can not tell if this user is telling the truth but Valve cannot either thats my problem with their system. Even more i can prove that if your game gets modified by a virus (and a virus is not contributing to your gameplay) if the virus is intended to link it self instead of immidieate destruction. That will get you VAC banned if you do not notice it for some extended time. Now explain why you getting a virus gives Valve permission to rip your wallet.

By the way i do not have problems with my steam account but stop defending VAC as the almighty system that makes no mistakes if you don't know what you are talking about.

Kurogo · 19th June 2014

lstraath posted:

Altough companies do like to make such statements and let you sign them they almost never have value in all countries. I live in Holland and i can tell you if you would get them for a court here they would lose because there is extensive customer protection in Holland. So don't think if you sign something it has value, if what you sign is agains local law it has no value at all. Problem with VAC ban is that Valve's intention is good but their system is no proof. I can not tell if this user is telling the truth but Valve cannot either thats my problem with their system. Even more i can prove that if your game gets modified by a virus (and a virus is not contributing to your gameplay) if the virus is intended to link it self instead of immidieate destruction. That will get you VAC banned if you do not notice it for some extended time. Now explain why you getting a virus gives Valve permission to rip your wallet.

By the way i do not have problems with my steam account but stop defending VAC as the almighty system that makes no mistakes if you don't know what you are talking about.

A little late to the party aren't we? Here's how such statements work, you download the appropriate version of the game for your country/municipality, the unavoidable EULA is tailored to be legal for your local country municipality, if you break that EULA, your country/municipality won't back up shit because the EULA is legal where you are. So if VAC works internationally, it's most likely because the way in which it works for your country is legal. Holland may have extensive consumer protection, but if the EULA for Holland is legal in Holland, violating the EULA there will still result in the same thing.

Regardless about the virus, this guy admitted to trying to circumvent the anti-cheats. It's entirely his own fault for being such a dumbass.

**Sievers808** · 19th June 2014

lstraath posted:

Altough companies do like to make such statements and let you sign them they almost never have value in all countries. I live in Holland and i can tell you if you would get them for a court here they would lose because there is extensive customer protection in Holland. So don't think if you sign something it has value, if what you sign is agains local law it has no value at all. Problem with VAC ban is that Valve's intention is good but their system is no proof. I can not tell if this user is telling the truth but Valve cannot either thats my problem with their system. Even more i can prove that if your game gets modified by a virus (and a virus is not contributing to your gameplay) if the virus is intended to link it self instead of immidieate destruction. That will get you VAC banned if you do not notice it for some extended time. Now explain why you getting a virus gives Valve permission to rip your wallet.

By the way i do not have problems with my steam account but stop defending VAC as the almighty system that makes no mistakes if you don't know what you are talking about.

This thread is wayyyy old but you're mistaking one thing:
No one has been banned for a virus. The people who have been banned were cheating, plain and simple.

There's no evidence to show that a virus has ever caused a VAC ban. However, there is a veritable mountain of information showing that humans are assholes and will say anything to get themselves out of trouble, including lying about cheating in a video game.

BeefyBeast · 19th June 2014

So... TS uses a bypass for a mandatory Anti-cheat client and is confused he got banned for it?

If you have problems with a program(in this case a game) you should never ever look for 3rd-party solutions first but always contact the programmer (in this case devteam) through either email, forum or other resources and try fixing it through the appropriate channels. You making the mistake of using 3rd-party software within a multiplayer environment is your very own fault as you must've been aware that it's illegal to do so. If you aren't aware of these "regulations" I suggest reading ToS (terms of service) and other important documents that you may have missed.