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Post #41not as simple as you think, mate.
Steam support denied me the request with their copypaste schedule.
"VAC confirms you're banned for a just reason" and stuff, posting me repeatedly the rules, etcetera, but really, that's not legal at all. Not because the VAC Ban came, but because making a person unable to use a regularly purchased thing is like, dunno, demolishing the wall you paid for in front of you and saying it's cat's fault.
I'm still trying to know a way to get my money back since i paid for it and got nothing except a "trial", without passing for the law and asking for a hundred times the amount i paid.
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In their ToS you signed, they reserve the right to lock your account or ban you from whatever they want without a reason.
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Yeah, if i broken their rules they could, but i didn't, unless there are no game mods at all on the steam workshop, cause that's not a hack, since it doesn't damage nobody, but a mod, since it replaces a file of the game and does something.
Are mods a bannable offense on the steam ToS?
No mods for any game?
Aaaaand
finally, last but not least, Hacks do give some kind of advantage, that didn't, can i still call it a hack? Guess no.
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Hey you have SimCity 4 in your CD drive... classic game.
Oh yea, and you cheated. No reason to try and defend yourself, a VAC ban is in-and-of-itself all of the evidence we need.
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You cannot mod your rust client, you will get VAC banned.
Also game mods are done server side, not client. So your argument is bad.
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did vac detect the software it wanted to detect? yes. Was it a false positive? no.
good luck getting any kind of reconcilement
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It doesn't matter if it was a cheat or not, if it involved .dll or .exe modification through injection then it would most likely result in a VAC ban that they had warned you about.
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I have actually a lot of games.
I never got banned from a game, except from Rust and from a site, which offered you to earn achievements on games and exchange them for stuff, got banned for a reason i can't know, sadly, maybe cause i didn't enter for two weeks, otherwise idk, anyway, This is my profile on Steam.
Verify my games, never got banned on them, never got banned even from DotA, neither from Minecraft, used hacks on singleplayer only cause i know where having hacks on while playing online takes too.
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So? What do you want us to do? We are not Valve. We do not control Valve Anti Cheat, if they do not unban you then noone can, please leave us alone.
Also
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7849-Radz-6869
Valve posted:
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lolo, if You were in my same situation, what would you do? I ask to You like i'll ask to everyone here.
I'm not sure that if y'all had my problem y'all could wait for an undefinite amount of time for a solution to come out from FPStudios while you have YOURS on your keyboard and on your mouse.
I'm asking if there's a way to get my money back in my pocket, not a way to get unbanned, i don't have the time to wait that the law does his job.
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From your thread over at steamforums:
So they answered you with the default answer which includes that they manually checked why VAC banned you, that they confirmed you used hacks but won't tell which and when. What more do you need? And, more importantly: What more do we need to confirm you're a hacker? I mean you confirmed it for us by telling Valve told so and, really, Valve knows best. So just stop arguing, game over.
But even if your story would be true (which, face it, nobody believes you):
Exactly. You bought early-access which includes you knowing the game might not run at all. If your game crashes you can report it and wait till it gets fixed. But you're not allowed to modify game files. That's forbidden according to the Steam ToS, according to the Rust EULA and according to copyright laws.
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Also an answer to your question: I'd suck it up and deal with the fact Valve answered me TWICE and buy it again, since you basically cannot accept the fact that you had cheated, and even Valve are saying the same thing.
You come here asking for answers, yet you had been warned from the start that tampering with .dll and .exe's while the game was open is not permitted especially by Valve.
Try Chargeback, you already paid for it. If you can't do that, then unfortunately to get the game again you must pay another 20$, and you need to play on another steam account
If you need more help look here
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...4044-QDHJ-5691
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It got fixed after they removed EAC, not sure on how much time is passed from it, but again, the "hack" was the bypass. V10lator, early-access means especially a warning cause a game isn't finished, and if a game's not finished you should be aware that it can freeze on the alpha state.
Then let's take a look around Steam.
Wow. Such forbidden. much h4x3d,very crazy! Wow.
Really, now, modding is forbidden into the Terms of Service, Rust EULA and Copyright laws.
Lolwat?
Do you violate any copyright law by modifying a file? LoL, no, you have to not distribute it, and to not sell it, copyright isn't that s*** you think.
Let's look at Rust EULA.
Maybe that's forbidden, yes, but should i ask for a refund to facepunch if the game i just bought doesn't work, or wait for an update, which can come right now or never, without a chance to predict it and without knowing if it will come out?
For the one that said that EAC is inactive now, then why it was included in my download on Steam, and there was a file named EAC.exe with some files into the folder EasyAntiCheat? just to make you download more?
i can't believe how much you're right, i'm a hacker, i'm a law breaker, i must escape somewhere where nobody can tell the police where i am, OMG, HELP PL0x. Lol, no. Not going nowhere right now, just sitting there reading The Hunger Games and laughing. Not a troll tho.
Chargeback? Isn't it a dangerous move?
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Sure buddy...
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Stopped reading here. Get the fuck out of here already
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I wish I had the energy to go through and pick apart your comment to explain how douchey and ignorant you're being. Alas, I only have the energy to state it as fact, citing your above comment as evidence.
Go away now please.
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Yes, i'm not trolling.
I'm just asking for help, but i'm not sure if chargeback is possible.
I have a Visa, what should i do? and what are the conseguences of this action?
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Do it, watch what happens.
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Well... In your case I'd give it a shot, since you DO want your money back don't you?
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k, i do know now.
My Steam account would get temporarily suspended and therefore unable to trade, send or receive gifts, and unable to purchase for 9 weeks, i think.
I do.
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Ok then don't do it? How you gonna' get your money back now?
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I have not so much money to purchase things from steam everyday, i just find this unjust and i want this game removed from my library, and of course i want my money back in my pocket, so if i find a way to do the chargeback i'll do it.
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Rust does not have a workshop....... Rust has never agreed to let people mod their game..... And why would they make you download a program to run the game? Plus you bought a early access game. And! No refunds :P
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If you find it so unjust, then it's as just as not using Steam in the first place.
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For example for the fact that if i can't run it there's no sense on having it, just an example.
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That's a risk you have to take when buying a game that's early access. There's a big fat warning saying the game's not finished, and there's an alpha banner in the corner of the screen in game. You were warned.
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You should try to look for system requirements before buying any game.
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Sad thing i didn't buy the game for myself but for a friend. And where the hell can i purchase a non steam copy of the game if all servers are vac protected?
Anyway Steam is part of my life since 2008, but what the heck, not Steam's fault you can't use something, neither developers, neither Yours, can't ask my OS to get a refund for that :/
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I still don't understand why you are posting? We've told you we cannot unban you, and we all know you are a scumbag cheater, what can you possibly do at this point other than make yourself look like an even bigger schmuck in the process
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Do you read often by the way? Not reading is usually why people fall into such easy traps.
VAC bans you through your SteamID so you cannot evade a ban once it falls.
And seeing this, you got VAC banned by buying a game for a friend?
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You can make a new account and buy it. There are no non-steam versions at all.
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You bought the game for friend but then played it and got banned on it??
I'm so confused by you, your posts are all over the place and self contradicting. Can't ask your OS for a refund for Rust because Rust is early access? WTF are you talking about?
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If you bought it for a friend then why get it vac banned by using cheats? Or as you put it "Not cheats, but a program that comes with the game"
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Yes, I was warned, but i expect the game itself to not run properly, not an external exe which actually sends screenshots and stuff to FP and does nothing for the game itself.
Yes,acekiller, i did, and I have a little monster here, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeange, 2 TB HDD, Nvidia GTX650 Ti Boost, Intel Core i5 E3300 (Sadly that's what slows my pc tho), anyway, i bet requirements are good, got a conflict with something inside the system, maybe something i use for other programs, but that's what happened to me.
No cheats there.
My friends was angry at me for doing that, but without it we had to wait for (x)time, not proud of it, pretty stupid, but what's done cannot be undone right?
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Just be honest with us, not like we can punish any further than what Valve has already done to you, you are telling us a story that wasn't so well thought out, especially what you said just a few mins ago.
You got VAC Banned according to the title, yet you bought it for a friend instead, did he play on your account or what not? If so it's your fault anyway.
Valve posted:
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External EXE?? sending screens to FP? Am i missing something here? Seriously what are you talking about?
As far as system specs go, the game is still unoptimized, your rig could run BF4 at 4K at a gazillion FPS but still run like dick for Rust because it's not optimized... because it's early access and unfinished.
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I'm honest.. Dude, if i wasn't honest, why did i open twice the same ticket to ensure if i could do something about that?
It's sad, but.. That's the truth, believe it or not.
I didn't even try to delete something, in that folder.
Since the bypass worked, i could delete maybe the backup of the default file, but i didn't, check the images if you didn't see them.
My friend stopped playing with me at all, since Rust was the only game we could play together, joined another clan and now he's an annoying guy like the ones that just worry about projectiles left..
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Yes, EasyAntiCheat sends screenshots to Facepunch if something doesn't go well, it's used to detect things like graphic mods, aimbots, etcetera, and i had to disable it because shit happened while loading the game, anyway, i read this in some place i don't remember.
Now i'm not lying, and neither i did in the beginning, neither in the middle, just ALL the truth.
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Insanity, nobody I know opens the same ticket twice in hopes of a new result, it was in the ToS and FAQs ever since you agreed to it, and it's out of your hands now.
And EasyAntiCheat is not known to be active right now, and the thread is about VAC.
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Yes, i got VAC Banned, for using an extenal tool that is potentially dangerous with other external s**t, but not dangerous itself, that's what i thought while installing it.
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People come here on a annual basis claiming things ranging from "my little brother got into my Steam account and used hacks on just Rust" to "lightening struck my power lines just as I was about to loot a base, when the power came back, I was somehow VAC banned". Most of the regulars here are less than trusting because so far every single person who has come here claiming innocence was found to have actually done something to warrant their ban.
If it really was a mistake, Valve would have unblocked your account. Contrary to what you might believe they aren't like Activision or EA, where they'll send a hit squad to remove you from existence rather than tarnish themselves by acknowledging a mistake. Apparently it wasn't a mistake though.
Continuing to argue or prove your innocence will not accomplish anything. Facepunch Studios CANNOT revoke a VAC ban or help get your account unfrozen in any way.
And to answer your question from earlier: If I was in your situation, I sure as hell wouldn't go picking fights with forum regulars because I'm innocent. Would only make me look worse, especially after being told that only Valve can help me.
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