1. Post #41
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    You are assuming that rad town will exist and that drops happen like that. All these things are subject to change. I would imagine with a full larger map that you might have to go to different regions for different drops or something like that. Random drops of everything seems more like placeholder logic at this stage.
    the map itself is a placeholder. devs are working on a map generator similar to minecraft for each server.

  2. Post #42

    January 2014
    45 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
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  3. Post #43
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
    this isn't a normal apocolapse. In a normal apoc you wouldnt be runnin round with ur dick out would you?
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  4. Post #44
    thelionnessa's Avatar
    March 2014
    275 Posts
    Handcrafted weapons totally.
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  5. Post #45
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    and the petition continues!

  6. Post #46

    March 2014
    24 Posts
    i like the guns we have now dont replace
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  7. Post #47
    thelionnessa's Avatar
    March 2014
    275 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
    Noticeable in a good way. Then they can work on content like farming and surviving.
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  8. Post #48
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    i like the guns we have now dont replace
    you dont want the models to change?? look a bit more weathered and rusty to fit the game? why

  9. Post #49
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
    there has to be some kind of compromise :/

  10. Post #50

    November 2013
    233 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
    Weird, I wasn't aware rust was modeled after the US. Considering the map is a small island with fairly generic terrain, and a handful of "cities" (which are really only like a single industrial building)...

    I'm also unaware of our military using "high capacity" firearms in the military, last time I checked they were still using the 30round standard magazines, not 100 round drums in Iraq...

  11. Post #51
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    Weird, I wasn't aware rust was modeled after the US. Considering the map is a small island with fairly generic terrain, and a handful of "cities" (which are really only like a single industrial building)...

    I'm also unaware of our military using "high capacity" firearms in the military, last time I checked they were still using the 30round standard magazines, not 100 round drums in Iraq...
    If I had to take any guess at where the rust island was, I would say Guam after some disaster

  12. Post #52

    March 2014
    13 Posts
    I think a MODEL CHANGE is in order but the current stats of the guns are fine, I think there just needs to be more variety in-between the current sets, the gap is too large, although I have taken out a full kev with a Revolver before, not many other players are gifted with video game skillz.

  13. Post #53

    November 2013
    233 Posts
    I think a MODEL CHANGE is in order but the current stats of the guns are fine, I think there just needs to be more variety in-between the current sets, the gap is too large, although I have taken out a full kev with a Revolver before, not many other players are gifted with video game skillz.
    I've taken out full kevlar with my hatchet before. It hardly matters that he was logged out right? ;p

  14. Post #54

    April 2014
    9 Posts
    It's going to be hilarious when the wishes of all these people come true and they turn any sense of modern weaponry into home made rubber potato guns that jam and practically fall apart after shooting. When the CoD audience and the people who only play to PVP leave it's going to be extremely noticeable, as if servers aren't empty enough

    Edit - for those of you saying it's unrealistic to have an M4 and P250 etc
    I promise you if an apoc happened and it turned into full on survival mode, in most western countries high capacity modern military grade weaponry would account for the MAJORITY of weapons you would find. You think the average gun owner in the US has a tommy gun, or an AR-15?
    If you know anything about firearm history, then you would know the .30-06 and the 7.62 is the ammo of choice since its the most common and cheap/easy to find in the world. and I think its obvious with the flood of AK's, sks's and American rifles in the world,.

    nato rounds, and the m4 is not as common as some may think,. and HnK weapons like the mp5 are less common. if we want to be real about this, then it would be shotguns/ 30.06 rifles that would rule in the west, and AK's would still rule in the east,.. why? History says so.

    In the old west, if a man could only have 1 gun, it was a shot gun,. its been written.

  15. Post #55

    April 2014
    9 Posts
    Add the Colt 1911, favourite pistol. Ever.

    I agree with you, keep the current guns, but add more old/rusted style guns too, like that MP5 model, and so on.
    It would give more of an original feel, perhaps?

  16. Post #56

    January 2014
    7 Posts
    I think in the long run anything should be craftable once there is a more complex system in place for crafting modern, military grade weapons.
    This is where DayZ is better than Rust. The DayZ map is setup with a military base, large cities, and farms, the perfect places to find modern guns and weapons. Rust is based either far in the past, or very far in the future when there is almost no remains of modern society. However, somehow large cities were wiped out, but plastic and metal weapons survived and are able to be made.

    This is where Garry and the Facepunch team need to choose where to go. They can either choose to be realistic, or make you know your playing a video game and not something that tries to mimic real life in an apocalyptic world. Many elements of Rust are unrealistic, instantly eating, bandaging, and respawning back at a certain point. I think they should stay the road they are going, and people are going to have to accept the Rust isn't trying to be super realistic and simulate real life.

  17. Post #57
    rbZero says I'm the Troll King
    mrknifey's Avatar
    April 2014
    1,827 Posts
    All points of "This is Rust, should be olden time based" points are invalid the second you see an "Airdrop".

    This game wasn't built around a 1800s theme at all, why do people keep suggesting that it should be moved to fit that theme? because you've never had a large weaponry? I think the game is fine as it is, just needs a more variety of weapons, I can fill a large crate full each of every weapon in less than a week, given the right place to hide my base or making a large base near impossible to raid.

    The game needs more weaponry that LEADS up to an M4, right now there is just a massive gap between a home made revolver and a factory made p250, there is no lead up and that's what makes everyone against the modern guns.

    Modern guns are fine but should be only found through airdrops and CAN be researched, that's just a bit of a suggestion, feel free to hate on this post but I'm sure 90% of people will agree with me.
    im right with you until you say to be able to craft them. Unless we get a better workbench type workspace, i struggle to picture being able to make a modern factory grade firearm that wont blow up the moment you pull the trigger;)

    Get them from drops. That will make them more rare, and the ammo even more precious. Probably reduce the potshots that fly past me as i run past big rad lol;)

    Edited:

    the map itself is a placeholder. devs are working on a map generator similar to minecraft for each server.
    Really? HELL YES!!

  18. Post #58
    Supa Mario's Avatar
    December 2013
    55 Posts
    Any weapon from Fallout.



    ...Okay except maybe for this

  19. Post #59
    Th3Le9oman's Avatar
    August 2013
    95 Posts
    Gimmie pictures! Too much text! D:

  20. Post #60
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    love all the coverage on this post :D I like to see how many other people are interested in this topic

  21. Post #61
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    Any weapon from Fallout.



    ...Okay except maybe for this
    i think you meant especially for that :P
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  22. Post #62
    Arthamus5's Avatar
    July 2013
    30 Posts
    While yes the 1911 is most commonly chambered in .45 they have 9mm variants... actually there are even .380's built on scaled down versions of the 1911... But his point was to replace the 9mm with a 1911... (that means we would most likely have a .45 in game if it was implemented) As for you saying the p250 is a modern weapon uhhh ya it is... This guy is listing the modern guns in game he wants changed... so the image isn't going to be of a p250 its going to be of something he wants to replace the sig with...
    *1911 is 45, not 9mm
    *p250 is a modern firearm and that picture you linked is not a p250, It's a Ruger MK series handgun.

  23. Post #63
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts

    I would like it if they made some kind of homemade 50 cal like this lol. More rustic looking and sniper rifley but you get the idea

  24. Post #64
    Dr. Doge's Avatar
    January 2014
    71 Posts
    If you look in the item editor there are all ready there and spawnable in game
    there are 7 weapons parts and 7 armour parts. plus a recycle kit.



    they have been in since last update :)

    also in the spawnable list are but not in game yet are

    empty Shells shotgun
    Primed 556 casing
    primed 9mm casing
    primed shotgun shell
    what

  25. Post #65
    kulan's Avatar
    February 2014
    775 Posts
    These items can be spawned in by admins tho they have no use, bar on some modded servers where i believe they are using the recycle kits.

  26. Post #66

    February 2014
    133 Posts
    Weapons should follow theme of the game which right now is hard to say what it is. If it's uga-buga stone age then it's true that all modern weapons should be replaced by spear/arrow types of weapons.

    However presence of so called "rad towns" proves that it's a modern world.
    Further more, presence of radiation is a sign that something bad happened (maybe atomic war?).


    If above two is true and it's what theme/mood of the game developers r heading towards then I guess goin heavily into "medival" class weapons (bows/crossbows/swords/spears etc.) would be in conflict with the theme. We all understand that atomic war would end the world as we know it today but we also know that mankind would live on - so technological idea, the knowledge etc. would live on too.

    Weapons then should vary from basic hunting (bows - like it is right now) towards more advanced weapons which should look as if they were crafted by hand. Great example r the "basic" weapons such ass revolver, hand cannon, pipe shotgun and even BAR. They all look like they were crafted in a shack - which is good.
    Weapons like m4, mp5, p250, 9 mil, shotgun - they look as if they were taken off a shelf from a gun store. I guess their place could be in some super duper secret military spots / very random spawns / events etc. Surely shouldn't be craftable unless u manage to build some huge production line...
    Exactly the way I see it... but it's a post modern world since nuclear (rad) exist, so in this period antique weapon will be mostly inpossible to find so modern weapon is ok... you can find this more easily in this world but should be a rare item only found in crate, but I do not think that we should be abble to craft them. Ammunition like 9mm and 556 should be also a rare find and would make them more precious.
    About crafting this kind of ammunition, I think that you can craft them only if you have the empty shell
    that will be harder to make in real life. So when you fire you're gun, empty shell will be throw on the ground and you can gather them back to craft (refill) them again.

    In the other part, basic real home made weapon and amunition could be craft, or homemade weapon that can used the rare 556 and 9mm shell. everything in this game from the bow to the revolver is ok to craft I think. But I will like to see home made powerfull crossbow (one shot kill if head shot but long reload) and maybe javelin for basic throwable weapon.

  27. Post #67
    I'm a tool
    KillerLUA's Avatar
    June 2009
    1,429 Posts
    Why does radiation always have to come from the overused 'nuclear bomb' plot-line?

    Who's to say that dinosaur shaped meteors didn't fall from the sky, dispersing radioactive dust around the continent you are on?

  28. Post #68

    February 2014
    133 Posts
    Why does radiation always have to come from the overused 'nuclear bomb' plot-line?
    I never said anywhere it's from a bomb or war... it could be from nuclear accident. But one thing is certain, if you have radiation it must be from nuclear technology related...

  29. Post #69

    January 2014
    6 Posts
    Some kickass hunting bows. Increase the difficulty of killing someone ;)

    Theres a decent range of different bows/crossbows. However if dinosaurs do come into the game how many arrows will it take to kill a dinosaur. Could work though.

  30. Post #70
    Dr. Doge's Avatar
    January 2014
    71 Posts
    These items can be spawned in by admins tho they have no use, bar on some modded servers where i believe they are using the recycle kits.
    Thank you ;)

  31. Post #71

    February 2014
    133 Posts
    Why so much people are so obsess about dinosaur... come on grow up and let your child toy behind you... dinosaur is an extinct specy and will not come back by magic. Too much kid mentality around here...

  32. Post #72
    JacksSparrow's Avatar
    March 2014
    92 Posts
    I want a Mosin-Nagant rifle in game. It's bolt action, 7.62x54r cartridge, and has been around since 1882.



    I own several of these vintage battle rifles and they are great! I think they'd fit perfectly into Rust!

  33. Post #73

    September 2013
    615 Posts
    I want a Mosin-Nagant rifle in game. It's bolt action, 7.62x54r cartridge, and has been around since 1882.



    I own several of these vintage battle rifles and they are great! I think they'd fit perfectly into Rust!
    so sexy hmmmmm i want one

  34. Post #74
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    I want a Mosin-Nagant rifle in game. It's bolt action, 7.62x54r cartridge, and has been around since 1882.



    I own several of these vintage battle rifles and they are great! I think they'd fit perfectly into Rust!
    If you add an SKS to go along with it, it would be perfect. But they cant because they would be yelled at for 'copying dayz' D:

  35. Post #75

    February 2014
    104 Posts
    if you look at play rust they have added a launcher from the look of it

  36. Post #76

    November 2013
    79 Posts
    I want a Mosin-Nagant rifle in game. It's bolt action, 7.62x54r cartridge, and has been around since 1882.



    I own several of these vintage battle rifles and they are great! I think they'd fit perfectly into Rust!
    While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think effectively going back in time is fitting to the game design. It's my understanding that the Rust world is one of limited resources and capability, not limited knowledge from 150 years ago. Frankly, M4s and the like would be more likely to be found, for instance, than a vintage pre-WWI era firearm.

  37. Post #77
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think effectively going back in time is fitting to the game design. It's my understanding that the Rust world is one of limited resources and capability, not limited knowledge from 150 years ago. Frankly, M4s and the like would be more likely to be found, for instance, than a vintage pre-WWI era firearm.
    I never thought of it like that. your completely right. Rustic weapons are the way they should be heading not old guns

  38. Post #78

    November 2013
    79 Posts
    I never thought of it like that. your completely right. Rustic weapons are the way they should be heading not old guns
    On the other hand, there could be some overlap of effective functionality. For instance, even though it's not perfectly analogous to your example above, the bolt-action rifle is functionally quite similar.

  39. Post #79
    PhilipTheBun's Avatar
    April 2014
    41 Posts
    On the other hand, there could be some overlap of effective functionality. For instance, even though it's not perfectly analogous to your example above, the bolt-action rifle is functionally quite similar.
    True

  40. Post #80

    February 2014
    316 Posts
    Those and selfmade ones...

    Oh, and let us be a big nazi experiment. :^)