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Post #1Im suggesting removing the whole night cycle as its pretty pointless because the majority of players fiddle their gamma and can see perfectly at night removing the whole point of a night time cycle and honest players like myself just sit in a house till its daylight as its instant death for people like me that want to play the game as intended and not exploit monitor gamma.
With the ESP out there in the mix and a good 90% of people fiddling gamma a night time cycle is pointless and is just a frustration until its fixed.
I`ve been here since launch and I play on a server with a dedicated admin team removing hackers daily but the flood seems too immense I`m going to shelve the game until hackers and exploiters are addressed , yes I know its alpha but annoying exploits like barricade raiding and ease of players cheating is ruining the game .
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Just change your gamma and stop whining.
I've been playing just fine.
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1- top skills for maturity clearly none
2- and with that attitude you probably hack because others hack
3- I pity society with people like you in it
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His point was; what is the difference between having it daylight all the time or just jacking up your gamma. By jacking up your gamma there is no difference and nighttime could be removed. When you have your gamma setup so you can see perfectly at night the only thing night time does is give the glow of a furnace.
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And my point is for people who want to play with ambience and the way it was intended without jacking up gamma are at a disadvantage , as you said jacking up gamma makes it permanent day so lets remove night its pointless . Some people also have clear advantages due to all singing and dancing expensive kit , im asking to level the playing field or do something that gamma wont penetrate
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Subtle night time particle effects would negate gamma fix. (increasing gamma would increase particle intensity, blinding you with light instead of dark.) I think playing w/ gamma tweaks is cheap, almost worthy of exploit label.
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To be perfectly honest I run my Gamma at 1.25 (default being 1)- Never adjusted gamma outside a game prior to Rust. The nights were so dark it was pointless unless you pulled out a flashlight or torch (read: instant death)
So while it is still plenty dark I still have pretty decent vision and the game still looks good.
Now... jacking gamma all the way up in the pitch dark does nothing really.. It really only makes a noticeable difference at times just after sunset and just before sunrise.
12 midnight - darkness is pretty bad regardless of gamma setting.
I think games like Dayz have gone a little too far with darkness. Rust is WAY better than Dayz but still too dark IMO.
IRL if I walk out into the pitch dark - sure I am blind for a second but my eyes adjust and I can see pretty well. Other games seem to handle darkness pretty well.
I would like Nights adjusted personally so I can turn off my gamma setting.
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I'd also like to add that if people are playing without gamma - those are the same people doing nothing but running to your shelters at night because you literally can't get anything done. For me personally? I like to game in my free time - not run to my shack everytime the sun starts going down. What good is it to have an entire server go indoors for the night because they can't play the game?
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Exactly what im asking for or maybe trip flares or flashbangs to blind exploiters to give non fiddlers the edge
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Night vision goggles - I mean come on we have Kevlar and M4's surely there can be NV Goggles.
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Hey OP, I have an idea. Why not try giving the forum a creative solution instead of just crying outloud.
"Just get rid of night time" get real bro seriously.
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Maybe I am alone, but I enjoy going in once night falls. Gives me time to craft and repair and sort through my boxes and plan what I want to do once the sun comes up. I like the night and could care less what other players do at night in my server.
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My monitor has display presets and one happens to be "night mode" so I'll be damned if I don't use it.
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Well that you don't like it alright that's your decision, but don't blame the players since it's not an exploit (i don't see it like that)
You simply enhance your game monitor, has nothing to do with Rust mechanics or anything. You can adjust this with any game to your own feeling.
Simply go with the croud and put up your gamma, or come with a good solution.
Saying "i don't want that" it's not helping anyone, give some ideas..
They used to have pitch black nights, but what's the point? People want to play the game. With the vanilla settings you can't go super far because of the night (if it would really be super dark) they want you to explore the map (i guess) and with this adjustment it's easy for everyone, if you don't like it. Then simply don't change your way of playing, but other people will have an advantage.
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exploit
verb
verb: exploit; 3rd person present: exploits; past tense: exploited; past participle: exploited; gerund or present participle: exploiting
/ɪkˈsplɔɪt,ɛk-/
1.
make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
"500 companies sprang up to exploit this new technology"
synonyms: utilize, make use of, put to use, use, use to good advantage, turn/put to good use, make the most of, capitalize on, benefit from, turn to account, draw on; More
profit from/by, make capital out of;
informalcash in on, milk
"platinum was originally exploited by the Indians of Colombia and Ecuador"
2.
make use of (a situation) in a way considered unfair or underhand.
"the company was exploiting a legal loophole"
I draw your attention to point two , using said technology other people may not have access to or want to use through fairness to gain an advantage over the rest therefore its an exploit , a weak link in the game that can be bent for your advantage.
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Again ,im not crying comments like that show your lack of maturity and I did suggest options , read before you open your mouth
Thank you
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An exploit in the gaming world has its own definition entirely.
Exploit: To abuse unintended game mechanics to ones own benefit
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EVERYONE can change their gamma, you don't need to download anything. It can be done with your own system..
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The "well everyone else can do it anyways" is not a very good argument here. Hardware is independent of the game itself therefor gamma changes are not exploits. An example of a game exploit would be the barrier + pillar glitch.
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Yes I know that but some monitors are far more superior and I don't want to fiddle with something that clearly alters the gameplay in ones favour when night time was supposed to conceal and create an element of concealment. People fiddle gamma but some can see clear as day that's not as the game intended otherwise there would be no night cycle. What im suggesting is implement something that can blind people that have fiddled the settings at night time to give fair players an option
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The thing is.. I didn't say it's an exploit, besides it is a good argument. OP can't do jack about it, so why not go with the flow? Like there is nothing you can do besides going or staying but knowing people could see.
We can say all we want.. exploit or not, this will probably stay for a long time. Plus i really enjoy the night with or without gamma, looks super good.
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This is pretty much impossible with hardware being independent from the software.
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Coming from a competitive gaming background - If it can be done and is not a bannable offense, someone else is doing it. If you choose not to, you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.
In an FPS style game where PvP is the focus - you better believe people will do whatever they can...
1. Running the game at the lowest possible settings on a massive machine for performance.
2. Running 800x600 resolution for performance and zoom
3. Running higher end Refresh rates on monitors for performance.
4. Adjusting gamma
5. etc
All of these small tweaks add up giving a skilled player even more of an edge.
Anyone choosing not to use these methods of gaming are not playing to win. If you are not going to do what it takes to win - then you are going to lose and should not qq about it.
Super high video settings? Huge resolution? 60hz monitors? no gamma correction? you're going to be killed over and over again.
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Ok I cant do anything about the rising crime rate in the UK ok Ill go out and bash a granny with the chavs because Da stick said go with the flow
Nice attitude
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Pitch black night... all the night time. Torches & Flashlight and Flare will have a use then.
Before the patch where they remove the pitch black night time, I like to go out at night to gather ressource and do Rad Town, I use my torch or flashlight intermitently so I will not be to easy to follow. It was fun and stressfull at the same time, it give a totally awsome ambience.
I know it will not be realistic, but's it's a game and nothing real... it should be fun and equal to everybody.
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Nice to compare a video game with real violence.
Grow up.
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Da Stick's comment isn't too far fetched - simply go with the flow is a little harsh.
But realize - you are in a game with lots of counter strike players and lots of FPS players in general. People play to win and the only way to level a playing field is to use everything they are using to be on their level to compete. We have adapted these methods in the same manner any other competitor tweaks their equipment to perform at it's very best.
I would imagine Nascar stock cars are tweaked to the gills and trust me those mechanics are probably doing EVERYTHING in their power to go AS close to that line of disqualifying as they possibly can to get that edge.
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Err'.. We can tell it in good words 'n stuff.. But eventually it does come with "go with the flow"..
The only comments i see above me actually agrees with me, but they're just stating it on a different manner.
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The real simple fix to this is once it gets dark just reduce the draw ratio like how the stashes work. You can't see stuff till your really close. This would remove the gamma issue altogether while still retaining the night feel of not knowing whats out there past your line of sight/light.
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Not really a simple "fix it all". They would have to make a very smooth transition between rendered and non-rendered so stuff doesn't just seem to pop out of nowhere. This would be extremely resource intensive to apply to the entire game environment.
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I have never had to change my gamma because my monitor displays night time very well by default, this is a hard issue to fix as everyone will have different levels and I'm not going to purposely change my monitor to play the game worse.
Monitor is a fairly old 22" LG FLATRON W2242P if anyone is interested.
Also night is one of the best times of the game so if you really cant be bothered to put in a minute and change the settings so you can enjoy it as well then I have little sympathy for you.
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Saying that changing your gamma is an exploit is just retarded.
That's like saying if you have an enormous monitor with an extremely high resolution then you're exploiting. Because with that, you'd be able to see people easier in the distance.
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Only thing that's being exploited here is the OP's butthole.
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My gamma is default.
I see perfectly fine at night time jst a lil bit darker than day.
Get a better monitor.
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This really just comes down to how you want to play the game. I don't have any problem with most responders who want to jack their gamma...not an exploit at all. I respect anyone who wants to compensate for where they lack in skill, common sense or integrity. I personally find it sad, a little pathetic, but quite understandable. If it makes you happy, that's all that really matters.
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Nights should be either removed at all, or made lighter so that you can see close to normally at least for 20 meters around you without any devices.
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