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Post #1Been working on resources and a good strong base for about a month now (so many hours a night)
Logged on the next morning (day 31) and everything has gone. So my question is when you've been working so hard on something in a game that can be lost in a few hours, what keeps you going ?
As for me I don't play Rust much anymore, I hate the feeling of having no progression and having nothing to show for it as when you finally have a good foundation of items you can lose it all so quickly.
When I look at how many hours I fork into MMO's I do sometimes feel quite guilty having put so many hours (days sometimes weeks) into the game, but at least I have levels, items etc to show. I fork out weeks for Rust all for, in the end nothing.
How do people get out of this rut ?
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Sorry to hear that for me its the fact that im sad but i wnt to kill the people who did this to me (in-game of course XD) i also maybe stop playing for a day or an hour or 2 because it is mostly a "rage quit game" hope this helps try restarting slowly build up not all at once
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Once you obtained everything it's boring to. In a game like this you know wipes will occur, specially in Alpha. Without wipes you'd never be able to start on a server. I know it sucks, i got 380 hours of "Rust" which is all gone. But i don't mind since i'm aware of it, you're playing for fun and i don't see fun when you got your base stockpilled with 10x everything you can have.
Just shake it off and start again, it's really easy anyways.. Just get a few friends to join and do it together, you'll get stuff fast and you'll have everything in no time.
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Here's my opinion: I think Rust, at least in its current state, must not be played with the word "progression" in mind and you should be aware of the fact that you could start from zero every time you connect to your server. That's definitely not a game in which you can show something, basically its scope is just to survive and that's all. Note however that on some server there's no C4 so the chances of being raided drastically decrease but there are still hackers.
Now I think that in a (not so near) future the balance between defense and attack will be improved.
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I definitely understand (being alpha) that I can't really expect anything in terms of progression and such, but I don't see there ever being some sort of progression even when the game is released as this is a core gameplay mechanic.
I usually play an indestructible fort server so it feels like I've accomplished something haha
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Don't get attached to you're stuff, first couple times you get raided or server gets wiped it hurts. After that you'll be fine just building up agian, for me that's the fun part. What's fun about sitting in you're castle on top of a pile of m4's and c4...
If you can't stand that then I would advice you to lay the game down for sometime until it's out of Alpha..
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I used to do like you. Enjoy building fortress or castles :3. It's quite fun to be honest but after losing everything for various reasons i decided to build simply small bases and go out on rambo style.
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I'm starting to really enjoy starting over.
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The incentive must be within you (of course) but you should take it and use it with the knowledge that you wont be making the same mistakes you made the first time.
And each time it happens,and it will happen again and again, you learn what not to do each time.
Eventually, you become so conservative that you have :
1: Found a location that is very isolated or extremely uncommon grounds where players pass
2: Followed a strict farming routine, you farm only what you need and power farm those resources
3: Constructed a mental breakdown of how you build your base before you build it
4: Gathered enough resources that you can't keep them on your personal anymore
5: Realize that you don't need that big fancy base
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The incentive is the chance to do what you did again without making the same mistakes. You can't fall in love with anything you have. Rust isn't an MMO where you keep levels, gear and skills you once learned (besides blueprints). I log in and expect to be starting from scratch when I get ingame. It's what I love about this game. Yes I'll go back to my old base and see what happened, but never expect to be invincible.
My favorite thing to do is get enough resources to make a bow and arrow, sit by the road and wait for a kevlar guy =). I probably won't kill him but if I do, I get all his stuff!
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I know how you feel. I can only spend time on rust in the weekends. So when the weekend if over I lose everything basicly.
I started over this weekend again, sunday I realised why I stopped playing. All the work I put in my base will be gone by next weekend. So then I stopped playing again.
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You would think there wasnt servers with uncraftable c4 with threads like this
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just like in real life lol
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I have played a lot, lost a lot, spent a lot of time building for weeks only to have it taken away in minutes. I have learned from my mistakes but I still make some. I have found people that I play with it took many hours and I trust them and so "we" work together to make sure that doesn't happen. Knowing how to build a proper base, how to build it if you were attacking it all these things are important.
I'm on a WAR server right now and I purposely build a base right outside small Rad town to be attacked. They tried but they never got in, sure they blew a few walls and some doors but they never got to the heart. The point is I get frustrated just like you, I even get mad especially at cheaters. I would like an update new content dinosaurs, Army who cares bring zombies back and make a zombie town anything I'm hoping.
Hang in there, we feel your pain.
My Advice is try and find someone you can hook-up with, it will save you a lot of stress.
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I just play the game for fun and mess around. You should expect to lose everythingn after a while
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As previously mentioned it's all about starting over and learning from your past mistakes. Making new mistakes and learning from those.
Honestly 30 days of game play is pretty good for a product that is less then 20% completed.
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If you want your base to still be there, you need to play with 1 or 2 people so that they can help you farm wood.
When you make your base build in a flat area and make your base only 1 story tall. When you expand build around your center room and try to make your base as wide as possible with as many doors as possible. If you have a really wide base, it will take more c4 to get in then it's usually worth, considering wood is easy to get.
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At least you had a good long fun month of grinding for stuff. I'm normally switching servers every week because my team and I get everything within a day of being on the server... gets boring.
I've just stopped playing... waiting for new content to make things more interesting, because right now, it's utterly boring to play.
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Survival games attempt the "losing is fun" mentality but most of them forget about the "fun" bit.
Build, destroy, get destroyed, rebuild differently. The game isn't finished, make your own challenges or goals, and change them when you achieve them.
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Happened to me, I kinda just quit the server as it turned into 13 year old clan stacks running around M4'ing new people.
I'm now waiting for a server to disable all of the military grade weapons before I play again.
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Playing with friends is significantly better than playing alone. 3 of my friends got the game this weekend, completely changed my experience from the solo gameplay I was used to. Raised my 11/10 Rust rating to 20/10.
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I should elaborate however that I've rage quit like a hundred times on this game, but after a day or two I always come back to it. This game envokes some serious emotion from the player, which is both a blessing and a curse.
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You had fun? great, thats not nothing.
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First off, i dont think you played for 31 days but thats not the point
NEVER KEEP ALL YOUR SHIT IN THE SAME HOUSE! I thought everyone knew that you need 10+ houses across the map split your loot man. Keeping it all at the same spot i mean why does that :P ?
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While you can lose 30 days progress overnight, you can also gain a tone of progress in a short time as well. Play aggressively now you have nothing to lose. Live in a 1x1 and farm for c4 and do small raids until you acquire enough resources to rebuild a semi-secure base, then from there look at doing bigger raids to get back to where you were. Almost anything and everything will eventually be raided in Rust (unless the server dies first) and the sooner you start playing with that mentality the better. The triumph feeling of raiding can only be achieved at someone else's expense, make sure you are the raider not the raided next time.
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There really is no incentive to keep playing this game. You can do everything over again but since there is nothing new to do you'll grow tired of doing the same thing over and over. You'll just have to wait for new content or go play Dayz.
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I like starting over. Gives you a chance to start over with a different way to play. From helpful to bandit. From creating the biggest tower on the server to having a few well hidden outposts. I get bored more easily when I'm already on top and have pretty much dominated the rest of the server. What else is there to do after that?
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The dying isn't what gets me, it's server wipes where you have to relearn everything...again
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Perhaps if you feel this way you may consider setting Rust aside for some time, and coming back after a significant update or two. Currently everything from scheduled wipes to prevent potential data corruption, to unforseen wipes caused by the aforementioned corruption will be getting in between you and your desire to experience a slow and steady progression. Even if you go so far as to buy your own server, and successfully get a playerbase, it's difficult to say that you won't have to worry about wipes. A significant enough patch comes along or corruption strikes and you may well want to wipe your server despite your reservations in doing so.
When you play a game this early in development it's best to be prepared for these inevitable issues that arise. The best part, at least to me, of a game this early in development is that when they wipe if it kills my desire to continue playing, I can always come back to the game later in the development cycle. Then I get to experience the significant changes the game will have undergone, without all of the troubles that someone who plays consistently will invariably encounter.
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How can you loose every things? Go back to your house and repair it.
And if you loose everything because you're not good enough, well this is rust. Fun for me.
It's not that hard to restart from scratch anyway.
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In that month how many times did you make other people on the server feel that same feeling?
Like what many people have already suggested, stay small and then you don't have as much to lose. Or just be be prepared. Maybe this is the 1st time you had a really big loss so you're taking it hard. It gets easier. :P
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I'm building a gigantic (about 350-foundations worth so far, possibly 1000+ once done) network of floating islands connected with skybridges (the whole thing ~7-12 stories up in the air, with everything removed from underneath).. I realise it'll get wiped eventually, possibly in a week, probably in a month or two.. Doesn't mean it's not fucking cool, and fun to do - especially when a few players join in.
As for the people saying there's 'nothing new' in rust.. Rust Devs are working on Traps, well so am I - that, and mechs. Yes, I said mechs :D With explosive hits that can punch or stomp through any building component - and which can shoot out 'cluster bombs' (grenade that spawns 6 more on hit)... And can be 'driven' by players/admins. Traps whereby if anyone not on your friends list breaches a room, they get tickticktickboom, tickticktickspikes, falling floor, closing walls, etc.. When base is 'armed', you may have spike walls 'rolling' down your hallways or poison gas filling some areas - which stops if you enter in your door code.
If you think there's nothing new in rust, you aren't paying attention.
Also, any server where the high end guns, explosives, and armour are researchable+craftable, is going to get boring - I thought that would be obvious. In my server they're rare and uncraftable, can be traded with other players on an inbuilt market (want-to-buy/want-to-sell, with sales for credits which can be used to buy planks). Gotta think outside the box sometimes :)
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you need to either hide you loot better or spread it around different bases.
dont keep all ur stuff in 1 place as it is very risky
regarding what you could do now:
you could join a server where c4 is rare/non-craftable or a role-play server and see which one fits u better
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Bro i keep thru it three time i know how you feel the best way is metal base in the end. Three time wooden base 3 times i got raided than i upgrade to metal, havent been raided yet for 2 weeks standing
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i like to lose everything and start again, it makes game so unpredictable and funny)
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My only suggestion that has worked for me (so far) is spreading out your supplies over multiple bases throughout the map. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket. By the way, I am on the side of starting over via server wipe or raid. I kinda like starting over, but also know your frustration. I wish I could know who I am raiding or who raided me, so I can get some satisfaction of getting them back.
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If you don't enjoy playing, don't play. I treat Rust as a pure survival game right now and every time I log off I do so with the assumption that I'll wake up naked next time I log in. I'm also not playing very frequently now as I wait to see what happens in updates.
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