1. Post #1
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    Brief tutorial about whether or not it is worth all the farming to get a metal base. My viewers have been requesting this for some time so I am glad I could finally make it. Enjoy!



    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qKlNwdr_DY
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  2. Post #2

    June 2006
    121 Posts
    I agree wood is the way to go. It just isn't worth the hassle of finding the metal parts, burning all the wood and ore to make metal fragments etc. The way I design my base, the whole thing is air locked as I want it to be a maze on the inside. Some would say you can use metal walls inside where you don't need doors but doing so you create a linear path to your loot room as raiders will simply target doors.

    All in all, wood bases, doors on every single possible location and the only thing that should then concern you is a player with say 60 charges or a player with 4 charges intending to grief.

    I however don't agree with the simple placement of the stash rooms. When I see those 1x1 I monitor their activity to determine what kind of player and who it is going in there. I prefer foxdens to hide some things. I've got about 8 - 12 locations on the map where I scatter bases. Of all the bases, one got sniffed out due to someone publicizing the location via video.

  3. Post #3

    February 2014
    19 Posts
    A Metal base is safer if you want it to be, and ill explain why its safer then a wooden.

    On a metal 2x2 base lets say 5 story's high. Have each stairs side by side with a metal wall between, then a door frame at both stairs and one between the other 2 squares. In the 2 rooms have loot boxes that may or may not contain loot, if they go for the boxes they need to blow 6 c4 to check the boxes and get to the next floor, if they decide to skip the boxes and go for the stairs they have to blow the wall still costing 4 C4, in a wooden house if they go straight for the stairs its only costing them 2 C4, so pretty much halfing the amount of c4 used per floor when raiding a wood house.

  4. Post #4

    January 2014
    203 Posts
    Metal is advantageous due to the fact that the walls take more charges than doors. In a wood base a door is as good as a wall. With metal you can better funnel the intruders through door ways, instead of risking a chance on a wall to no where
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  5. Post #5
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    Yes technically a metal base is going to be more secure, however they are far more efficient ways to keep your stuff safe. Other than looking like a bad ass I believe a metal base is just too costly for what its worth. Not to mention only puts a bigger target on your back.
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  6. Post #6
    Stradosphere's Avatar
    March 2014
    155 Posts
    Yes technically a metal base is going to be more secure, however they are far more efficient ways to keep your stuff safe. Other than looking like a bad ass I believe a metal base is just too costly for what its worth. Not to mention only puts a bigger target on your back.
    Something down there should be costy i think,because if we split materials to tiers.Wood Houses or bases can be called T1 and metal bases can be called T2.Also for groups,metal house or base is not too costy since they collect more wood and ore than any solo player.

    On the other hand if you build a metal base somewhere hidden or cannot be seen at the first place.It will last longer any wooden houses can be built.

    I guess and i hope they will bring more construction materials in future,like bricks or concrete.They will be more and more costy for 1 person.

    It's the main aspect of this game you know.You are always a target :) If you build a shelter,you are target (newbie killers love that) If you build a wooden house,you are just a target again.If you build a wooden base or fortress,you are just a target :) You see,whatever you do,you will be a target.And you will target someone as well.

    These are my humble opinions ofc and i like your video :)
    Cheers

  7. Post #7
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    Something down there should be costy i think,because if we split materials to tiers.Wood Houses or bases can be called T1 and metal bases can be called T2.Also for groups,metal house or base is not too costy since they collect more wood and ore than any solo player.

    On the other hand if you build a metal base somewhere hidden or cannot be seen at the first place.It will last longer any wooden houses can be built.

    I guess and i hope they will bring more construction materials in future,like bricks or concrete.They will be more and more costy for 1 person.

    It's the main aspect of this game you know.You are always a target :) If you build a shelter,you are target (newbie killers love that) If you build a wooden house,you are just a target again.If you build a wooden base or fortress,you are just a target :) You see,whatever you do,you will be a target.And you will target someone as well.

    These are my humble opinions ofc and i like your video :)
    Cheers
    thanks man! Good suggestions, one thing i would love to see is stone houses, i have a sneaking suspicion that might be the next type of construction material.

  8. Post #8
    Detsur's Avatar
    February 2014
    59 Posts
    If your going to make c4 you need sulfur. To get sulfur you need to chop rocks. Rocks give you metal anyway. Over time you have an abundance of metal unless you are wasting it. SO build Metal. I actually do both wood and metal.

  9. Post #9
    Clawdius's Avatar
    February 2014
    82 Posts
    With the amount of metal it takes to build a metal base being devoted instead to weapons, ammo, and kevlar production you will be far more able to defend against a raid. Dumping thousands upon thousands of metal fragments into a metal base won't ensure you aren't raided, but it will certainly reduce the amount of resources you can devote toward making anything else out of metal.
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  10. Post #10
    Dennab
    February 2014
    62 Posts
    Make a wooden base, make your smaller bases metal...

  11. Post #11
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    With the amount of metal it takes to build a metal base being devoted instead to weapons, ammo, and kevlar production you will be far more able to defend against a raid. Dumping thousands upon thousands of metal fragments into a metal base won't ensure you aren't raided, but it will certainly reduce the amount of resources you can devote toward making anything else out of metal.
    I agree with this, I think it is much more useful to have things to defend yourself with instead of a base that is more difficult to get into.

  12. Post #12

    January 2013
    25 Posts
    I see that you play smite
    Now that's something what i like to see!

    Metal may be more defensiver than wood, but 2/3 of all raiders come trough the door anyways
    Having a metal base isn't saying "you're a smart man having such defensive walls!" it only says "you've made a fancy house but it's just as raidable as my wooden base!"

    Use the metal for your weapons not your base!
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  13. Post #13
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    I see that you play smite
    Now that's something what i like to see!

    Metal may be more defensiver than wood, but 2/3 of all raiders come trough the door anyways
    Having a metal base isn't saying "you're a smart man having such defensive walls!" it only says "you've made a fancy house but it's just as raidable as my wooden base!"

    Use the metal for your weapons not your base!

    Ya I play Smite, active player and shoutcaster for the BloodyTech tournaments every Friday. :D Love seeing Smite fans all over the place!

  14. Post #14

    February 2014
    13 Posts
    Idk I really love having a metal base and usually don't get messed with because of it.

  15. Post #15

    March 2014
    157 Posts
    if most bases on ur server are made out of wood build a wooden base
    if most bases on ur server are made of metal then build a metal one

    in any case try not to stand out of the rest of the crowd

  16. Post #16
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    if most bases on ur server are made out of wood build a wooden base
    if most bases on ur server are made of metal then build a metal one

    in any case try not to stand out of the rest of the crowd
    You make a good point, personally I got for just hiding my base in the hills or something. Saves on resources.

  17. Post #17

    January 2014
    377 Posts
    I don't really find any base really worth it anymore, as there is always some group or no lifer that grinds all day to build 40+c4 a day that will reck it.

    I just keep little 1x1 or 1x2 little bases hidden all over the map and split my loot. If I do have excess of wood / metal I will find a place where I can build 1 large 1 story base and slowly add onto that, however, loot won't go into there until it is complete.

  18. Post #18
    Oxameter's Avatar
    March 2014
    229 Posts
    Protecting stuff behind only 2 c4 (1 door) is a terrible idea in my opinion. You have to ask yourself, is the c4 required to raid this place worth less then the places contents? If the answer is yes, your stuff needs more protection. You can't argue that a 1x1 isn't worth raiding unless there is hardly anything in there. Dividing your stuff into separate 1x1s in the same area and placing all your guns in one of them, all your ammo is another ect is a lot less secure then simply building a well protected base.

    1.30 is particularly bad, 7 c4 behind one metal door (costing 2 c4 to break down) is not good at all.

  19. Post #19

    January 2014
    203 Posts
    I agree with this, I think it is much more useful to have things to defend yourself with instead of a base that is more difficult to get into.
    whats the point of having all that stuff, thats easy to get to? cant defend yourself when you are dead or when they steal it because you didnt have a good defense?

    With that, how much other stuff are you making with metal? have a few weapons and a couple sets of kevlar. Ammo you find readily enough if you farm for it. If you are farming for sulfur for explosives then you will be getting metal. And again, no point in having 3 dozen M4's if you cant deter anyone from getting to it. A stronger wall is a better wall, fact. If you can afford it, do it. if you cant, farm more

  20. Post #20
    Nyghtprowler's Avatar
    February 2014
    25 Posts
    We all know the standard 5x5 or greater single story base is the safest bet. No walls - all doorways on every square including the outer walls areas. One large chest in each room.

    Why? Because they can't pillar a doorway unless they blast the door and the doorway.

    At that point metal is a waste - and give you no benefit.

    The video basically says the same thing. Smaller modular 1 x 1's all over the valley. This is the same idea.

    In a 5 x 5 only some chests have loot so they have to bust all the doors to clean you out totally.
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  21. Post #21
    Gibbly's Avatar
    December 2013
    75 Posts
    We all know the standard 5x5 or greater single story base is the safest bet. No walls - all doorways on every square including the outer walls areas. One large chest in each room.

    Why? Because they can't pillar a doorway unless they blast the door and the doorway.

    At that point metal is a waste - and give you no benefit.

    The video basically says the same thing. Smaller modular 1 x 1's all over the valley. This is the same idea.

    In a 5 x 5 only some chests have loot so they have to bust all the doors to clean you out totally.
    Ya that is basically the same thing, except only spread out over the map instead of 1 place. but still a great idea