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IMO This is the safest base design for the lease amount of resources! Also with an insight on how to make it larger!
Let me know what you think down below! And if you have tried this technique then leave some feedback!
My Channel:
https://YouTube.com/Exskreamist
Have a good day! :)
For the many people who are defensive about base designs!:
I'm not here to argue with anyone. The base that I was trying to present in the video was the simple 5 foundation one. As an example I just showed how you could extend/build onto it if you so desire... No need for everyone argue over who's base design is better. I just wanted to bring my concept to people attention!
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every house a flaw. wouldn't take long to figure it out. would be safer out of metal so people can't see through the cracks.
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You didn't explain your point very well. Metal is easier to see inside of. And also the loot room has a foundation every side of it with a metal door.
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Nice video. I will try out this base design :) 4 C4 is a lot for a 5 foundation base, pretty smart.
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Thanks man! Go for it! :)
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I'm actually going to use this :)
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Im 99% sure you can attach a foundation to that taller base even with the scattered pillared foundations around it.
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Mine is for sure better for a start. It require just 3 foundation in a row. Of course it is better to think ahead and have spare place all around for more foundation and pilar. Not sure if it's good because I'm not sure if pilar defend againts ladder correctly.
Than you need to go up with more story. More story you have more hard it is to raid.
So one of the 3 foundation is for the stair, one stair at one point. You need to alternate the stairs.
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You should make it metal and then have them guess at each level where the stairs are increasing the amount of c4. The anti-raid pillars on the outside can still be wood if resources are an issue. Though I would put metal bars on the top just in case if someone trys to use the jump glitch and gets in by luck. Good design for such low resources and would be able to be hidden in rocks pretty well as well.
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For a 5 foundation base its pretty awesome! As I said I use it all the time :)
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But dude. a 5 foundation base that requires 4C4 to get to the loot room. Its a starter base. I just showed the bigger one as an example as to what you could do with it once you gather more resources. Its just my opinion, and I don't doubt yours, but mine requires less resources as a starter base, that is necessary.
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I tried it. You can't.
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I agree with the small 5 foundation base, but the upgraded base you can ignore the first 5 doors by building a barricade infront the main entrance and jump from a large woodstorage up, placing a C4 on the wall over the main entrance...
If you send me a PM maybe I can show you my design. ;-)
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So by barrier exploiting. Got it.
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Seems like a pretty nice design to be honest. I'll be sure to try it out when I actually play next time.
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It was just an example as to how you could extend the design.
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Of course, the safest base design is one that people don't have the blueprints for, knowing exactly where you want to end up in a base is what makes a lot of people expend C4 on empty decoy storage spaces etc, so by posting this design on the forums it just means that a lot more people are aware of exactly how many C4 they need to pillage a base with this design.
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I don't think your take less ressource. Mine is 3 foundation for a start and your is 5.
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Hi SkreamUK
Your video is great work! I enjoyed watching it very much. I wouldn't try to improve the important knowledge you try to spread to the community, if I didn't like the video.
Then I am sorry, but the video title is misleading. The first design is great, but the extension is easy to dodge half the doors and you suggest in your video that you will need 20 c4. I will need just 10. Thats a slight difference and "noobs" should know that, so I mentioned it and maybe you know the design I would like to share with you and you will make another great video and keep up the good work for the community.
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I poked round one that you built on our server and was very impressed with the design
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A 3 foundation base only requires 2 C4 since there is no center room.... Its not safe at all compared to mine.
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The only thing you can do in Rust is to minimize the used resources while maximizing the minimal required C4 to get to the important stuff. If you have a lucky path where they need 10 c4 to get the stuff and an unlucky path where they need 30, you wasted resources, because the minimal c4 they need is still 10! Better have guaranteed 20 C4 then lucky 10 to 30...
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this kind of base is pretty easy to raid, care to make one and ill show you what i mean?
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Most of you armchair quarterbacks are missing the point of this thread. ScreamUK simply made a video that shows a base that uses little resources that requires 4 c4 to raid. He did not say "impenetrable base" or "cant be raided" or anything of the sort. It just an easy to build base that can add some protection to a new guy who may not know better. WTF is wrong with you people.
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Which is why you see so many 2x1x40 towers, despite them being insanely frustrating to navigate closing 20 doors to get to a storage area or what have you. They're easily one of the most quickly assembled and efficient methods of making your base a pain to raid (with the right preventative pillar/foundations built outside).
Of course the idea of a 40 story 20'x10' wooden tower is ludicrous, given the nature of shearing forces the wind would place on the wood. Honestly I'm not entirely certain of the height we could reach with modern building techniques for a wooden tower, I imagine the fire risk makes the idea of building that sort of thing untenable as much as the certainty that the wind sheer will cause the building to topple eventually.
I think that once we see the ability for people to place ceilings and remove them when they choose to, along with pillars etc, we'll see more use for bases that are temporarily safer than average and can be built up into much larger bases once the requisite materials are gathered. As it stands, if you want to keep expanding upward you have to have a doorway so people who are willing to make ridiculous barricade/pillar structures to climb above your preventative pillars can often expend less C4 than someone starting from the ground. Once we have ownership of structures we build and can set up temporary ceilings and such we may see an entirely new sort of base constructed a bit at a time.
Until then, we'll just have to settle for making a base that is either a huge maze so confounding that the people who built it and live in it get lost, ludicrous towers, or some combination of the two.
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i know a better house that takes 4 c4s to raid with less resources. lose the top portion and just have the first floor
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Dude makes solid video to help people out....gets flamed by people who think they are better...
Internet stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
Nice base man, saw one of these on my server 3 weeks ago and raided it just because I felt like the person who built it knew what they were doing...ended up being worth it because they had a ton of stuff stock piled for building another base. They didn't do what you did tho, the other 3 rooms were just there for protection as the base only had 2 doors and not the 5 that this does.
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Well someone here has a good understanding :)
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I like you :)
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its called constructive criticism, i subscribed to his videos awhile ago because most of it is good content
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Hi Detsur
First: Thanks for calling me an armchair quaterback!
Now... I told SkreamUK already that I like the work he has done with the video. But the extended design is not as good as it could be with the required materials to build it. If I would be a mad person, I would tell SkreamUK that even his 5 foundation mini house doesn't require 4 C4, just 3 but I have a good day today and I try to improve the community as much as SkreamUK. But you called me an armchair quaterback just because there are some guys that I call it "outsmart" you?!? You know how many times I got outsmarted in Rust till I gathered my knownledge???
Let me give you a n1 advice. If you dont like rude comments, then dont write such yourself, calling random guys you dont know "armchair quaterbacks"... ;-)
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I'm not here to argue with anyone. The base that I was trying to present in the video was the simple 5 foundation one. As an example I just showed how you could extend/build onto it if you so desire... No need for everyone argue over who's base design is better. I just wanted to bring my concept to peoples attention!
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By calling it "The Safest Base Design!"
Which it seems not to be SkreamUK... I am sorry, but you asked for our thoughts and feelings and now it seems like you just want to hear the crowd cheering for you instead of taking the many well meant criticism to make your good work maybe even better. ;-)
It is the power of the crowd that drives us forward. If you want to stay with your old Volkswagen Beetle pls. I like the new Model with airbags and ESP... ;-)
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Dude made very good video, with content that can be improved to get closer to the status mentioned in the title...
Where are the flamers?
Did you C4 the doors or the woodwalls then?
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AGREE!!!
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I don't mind criticism, as long as its constructive. And as for my typo, everyone makes mistakes. Sleep deprivation is mine. And you lost me when you started talking about cars? A little confused.
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Dude. I really like your video. You have a good voice to listen to you are a n1 guy. I already told you I would like to share another advanced base design with you so you can maybe make another good video explaining that one!
And it is no 2x1x40 Tower... ;-)
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I won't be doing another video about base designs unless something game changing happens. Thank you for your kind words.
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Constructive criticism should read more like "Dude, nice base and I can see the strengths but this is how I do it differently because of A, B, and C." Not..."every house a flaw. wouldn't take long to figure it out. would be safer out of metal so people can't see through the cracks."...shit that is in this thread ;)
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I've used this style many times, and have found it strong enough to deter many raiders, and frustrating enough to time waste anyone that persists.
Preventing pillaring up as shown in this video is essential. But I'd make one more suggestion, and that's to make more ground level entry doorways, as there will always be a griefer that will love to wall/ceiling you in.
I've taken this to the next step by building and maintaining decoy 5x5 towers in resource rich areas, which is great to annoy the hell out of raiders when they waste c4, and find... nothing :-)
Nice video!
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Cheers bud!
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I've done A LOT of base building in my many rust hours and there are several flaws, but the idea is solid and no worse than many other plans and no matter what design you come up with, all buildings aren't currently all that secure. The idea is to make it a pain in the a$$ :)
First up though.... the single best thing you can do is to simply spread the loot out everywhere. No single loot room and none of this putting it near the top just because. People will go to greater lengths to get up there just because they expect the goodies to be there :) I know having an order in chests is preferred to make it easier to access your goodies but it also makes it easier for the raiders to get said goodies so I randomly put most stuff everywhere. Chaos is beautiful!
Also... just don't carry much loot at all :) Even if you build a massive base (unless you're a larger group)... you don't need to store 50 m4's in there. You just don't ;)
The external pillar defense on display, whilst a solid idea that I also eventually employ, it does get annoying with the current way that decay works. The easiest way to stop it from decaying is to put two more pillars, a doorway and an unlocked wooden door on it for starters. By opening and closing that door attached to that foundation, you reset the decay clock for that foundation 'network'. There are other ways to try and protect your base more but all that does cost A LOT more resources and is against the original brief.
Now... where your current pillar defense is, and its height, you can build an adjacent foundation next to one and then on top of one of your existing pillar defense towers. Leaping from that to the roof or to a window ledge isn't at all impossible and vastly reduces the amount of charges required to get up there.
All in all... keep on building :)
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But it is for a quick start. And than you can make stair and it need a lot of c4. I have like 5 story now and I think it take like 50 c4 to raid. This is not to count the pillar that protect me from the ladders.
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If you think my post was aimed at you and you are now taking it personally...so what
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Then why not be so fair and aim your post at the dudes you want to insult? Is the little bit copy and paste to hard to do for you?
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