1. Post #1

    March 2014
    10 Posts
    [UPDATE] 3/6/14

    Turns out the ban seems to be related to a file I tried to modify when I first bought the game to increase in-game brightness that didn't work
    I had completely forgot about it, so in the end it seems everything I posted here was unrelated and I apologize. Like someone said in this thread, the ban time was a coincidence and had nothing to do with the hacker on our server or me getting glitched in a rock right before the ban.
    After reading comments and reading up on Vac to understand the system better, its clear a modified file, is a modified file, and its bannable regardless.
    So ashamedly but admittedly it is my fault. I screwed up, I accept it and I'll move on and buy another copy of RUST.


    I understand getting heated at people coming on here and blatantly lying, I wasn't intending to do that, I honestly thought something had happened either related to the hacker or glitch I experienced. Its obvious that is not the case and seeing how VAC works, can never be the case.
    I like most others certainly have an internet footprint(more so than I knew apparently), some of it I'm not proud of, but I don't intentionally hide or deny it either. Ill comment on what Ive seen mentioned here, but I would appreciate not continuing to post personal information. And thank you for having the main chunk of it removed.


    Zero12091 Account: It got banned over 7 years ago, I don't remember why but I don't doubt It was something I did wrong.

    I loved to mess with software, games, etc (used to mod game systems) as a kid and I still enjoy poking around software and games now, which obviously got me a VAC ban.
    I was in a closed testing group for Mechwarrior Online which had most of my time spent poking around files to see what could be changed and modified client side.
    I obviously need to be more careful in the future and make sure I don't use or have modified files for any reason when playing on VAC servers.

    Aliases:The NeuroToxin account simply isn't me, I used the name N3roTxn on a Rust server during a raid to hide who I actually was. Googling "Kryptic Hack" brings nothing up on me, it was an alias I used on Rust for at most a week to current.


    Trey on my friends List: I added him along with a few others on the server in order to try and get additional information to report him to the admin. He kept changing names so adding him let us confirm who it was, the guy was copying regular players names trying to get them banned by the admin.
    He is now banned on the server, although that doesn't matter much considering he is now also VAC banned. You guys read into that friend add waaay to much.


    Threatening Kreyos with a Class action lawsuit: while the account was obviously hijacked, those posts related to Kreyos were me. That company made delivery excuses for almost a year despite stating numerous ship dates.
    The campaign was for a finished product that only needed production money, After they refused to refund me and countless others after the 3rd or 4th major delay excuse I spoke with a lawyer and was prepared to start a class action against them.
    Doing so got them to refund those who asked for it.

    Indie Development: I do support Indie Development, as such I have no problem buying another copy of Rust, I was banned for a mistake on my part and still love the game.
    I am in game development myself, I run a team that develops mostly mobile games using Unity(same engine as Rust). We also do contract work on larger titles.


    I have messed around with cheats and hacks on private servers/single player games in the past, But I'm generally against all forms of cheating when it comes to multiplayer games, indie or not.
    It just ruins the experience, I don't even enjoy hosting servers anymore because I feel having access to admin rights in most games seems to dilute the experience.


    I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time. I made a mistake and I deserved the Vac Ban for it.
    As an additional apology, here is the Paid Android version of my company's first title release "Apocalypse Pluto Deluxe" for free to whomever would like to try it out.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bwt1k9l4y...2001-19-14.apk
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  2. Post #2
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    Facepunch cant do anything about VAC, talk to valve. Vac bans based on if your software has been messed iwth not if you spazz out in the game and bug through a rock. you cheated or did something to your rust files.

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    March 2014
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  4. Post #4
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    February 2014
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    New story, same end.
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    March 2014
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  6. Post #6
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    February 2014
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    2) There seems to be several cases where Rust has generated false positives.
    no
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  7. Post #7
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    May 2006
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    I'm reading about Vac bans/Rust and I'm seeing a couple things.

    1) Vac Bans do not occur instantly - not sure what this means on my end because I was banned between being disconnected and logging back online (maybe a 5 second span)

    2) There seems to be several cases where Rust has generated false positives

    Why is it hard to believe something could have happened? I have an obvious clean track record and over 160 hours in Rust without any issues. I'm willing to proove this however necessary.
    1) Vac bans are delayed roughly anywhere from a week to a month so it's not possible that this could have been the problem, you are not an exception.

    2) Vac has only ever had one or two major cases of false positives that have long been resolved, individual cases of false positives are simply people lying about their innocence.

    This is not even how Vac works either, Vac works by identifying if your game files have been tampered with or if you've injected/hooked anything to the main .exe, none of these things can happen from anything happening in game, absolutely none.

    I'm sorry but everything points to the likelihood that you have been using a cheat or hack to gain an unfair advantage over others. If you feel you have been wronged then by all means bring it to Valve and they will unban you on the extremely unlikely off chance that you have been victim to a false positive. We cannot do anything here, we do not own, control or monitor VAC in any way or form.
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  8. Post #8

    March 2014
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  9. Post #9
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    May 2006
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    Cheatpunch is not VAC, they are both different anti cheat measures. It is well documented how VAC works and it simply does not work that way.
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  10. Post #10
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    February 2014
    213 Posts
    Cheatpunch =/= VAC
    Different Software, different Bans, you wont get VAC banned because Cheatpunch and you wont get Cheatpunch banned because VAC.

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    March 2014
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    January 2014
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    lol yea dood...sorry to say this but your done unless you buy a new copy.
    You seem intelligent enough but your persistence is meaningless here.
    As it was already mentioned, VAC has only had one instance and cheatpunch is an entirely different entity.

  13. Post #13
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    May 2006
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    So what does Cheatpunch do?

    I don't even believe Ive been playing for a week, I bought the game a while ago and just started recently, so this doesn't make any sense and wouldn't I be banned from more then just Rust if it was a straight VAC ban? I'm not sure how Cheatpunch and VAC work together.

    If I need to contact Valve that's fine, but reading these forums It seems like there was just an issue with Admins receiving the same ban on there own servers
    Are you telling me you've played Rust 22 hours a day for a week since you bought it. Your story is really inconsistent. Let me say this again for you, "Vac works by identifying if your game files have been tampered with or if you've injected/hooked anything to the main .exe, none of these things can happen from anything happening in game, absolutely none."
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  14. Post #14

    March 2014
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    May 2006
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    Simple coincidence that the ban has appeared to be blatantly instant.

    Again, I still have to stress the fact that you've been playing the game for a little over 22 hours a day, maybe even more if it's been less than a week, I think you should take a slight break and go for some breeze out in the sun.

  16. Post #16
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    February 2014
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    So what does Cheatpunch do? I don't even believe Ive been playing for a week, I bought the game a while ago and just started recently.
    Recent Activity 146.7 Hours in the past 2 Weeks.
    Rust: 179 Hours

    Your story smells fishy mate. Get used to the VAC Ban.
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  17. Post #17

    March 2014
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  18. Post #18
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    January 2014
    242 Posts
    I'll write Valve and hopefully they can do something.
    Only thing you can do man or again, get another account and pay 20$.
    But remember this, VAC will and DOES get you in the end. No amount of time whether short or long...it always wins. Cheats are rampant on this game, this gets rid of them.
    If you changed your files in the game for anything...you might as well get another 20 out, or give up
    And your scrutinized because VAC is not wrong...and if you knew how many of these posts come on here daily,jeez its amazing.
    You cheated man...now face up, you aren't going to get anywhere here I guarantee it
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  19. Post #19

    February 2014
    48 Posts
    The VAC detection is running on your client, not the server. It is looking for things modified in your game or external sources on interfering with your client. A hacker on the server can't install and run a hack locally on your PC!

  20. Post #20
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    February 2014
    213 Posts
    I leave the game on, so I guess so. there's only been a few times I shut the game off completely and I never turn off my PC I don't see how my story has any inconsistencies.
    Time played is only recoreded if you are logged into a server, if you idle on a server (afk) you get kicked. So yeah you have been playing that amount of hours.
    Recent Activity 146.7 Hours in the past 2 Weeks.
    Rust: 179 Hours
    Is there a way I can look at my play history or something... you guys are scrutinizing me for number specifics, Ill copy paste a play log if one exists
    I got this number from your account page.
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    March 2014
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  22. Post #22

    February 2014
    14 Posts
    Another cheater in denial.

    lol
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  23. Post #23
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    March 2014
    102 Posts
    I don't see how a hacker in your server can get you VAC banned. If you have nothing to do with hacks (no inections .dll, bypasses etc) then you should not get a VAC. Clearly one end to that, you were the one hacking.

  24. Post #24

    November 2013
    176 Posts
    Time played is only recoreded if you are logged into a server, if you idle on a server (afk) you get kicked. So yeah you have been playing that amount of hours.

    I got this number from your account page.
    I tried it before,even if your Rust is in the background and you're not in any server,it still counts
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  25. Post #25
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    February 2014
    213 Posts
    After you exit the game, it should update. I see the same thing on my account. I had 250h played, been in the login screen for 5 hours, 30 minutes of them in the game itself. It was updated each hour. After closing the game, it jumped back to 250h, could be a coincidence. I didnt keep attention to it in specific. Thanks for the update if I was wrong :)
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  26. Post #26

    March 2014
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  27. Post #27

    December 2013
    71 Posts
    Unburden yourself.

    Admit your sin. We KNOW you did SOMETHING.
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    March 2014
    51 Posts
    I have an entire server that can vouch for me and against the other ID I linked, I was right there with everyone else being killed by this guy.



    SO like I said, I leave my game running 24/7 almost and it apparently has counted towards my time which roughly adds up... Now I dont know if that changes anything but if anyone has insights as to what could cause VAC to instantly ban me I would love to know. I did write Steam as well, so Ill see what they say
    Come on, stop changing subject with that hacker on your server. Stop being stubborn, there is no way a hacker in game would have an effect on your VAC ban. Either you cheated OR someone using your account has been cheating so stop misleading us with your hacker story.

    Also, THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO HERE, you are ban and VAC does NOT unban, so I suggest you stop complaining to us.

    And finally, we saw enough "I didn't cheat but I got VAC banned" thread to know where this is going. People are going to start investigating, and finally, they'll end up seeing a connection with your nickname and some cheating website, and in the end, you won't be able to defend yourself and finally leave (pandeh already found a previous ban of your btw).

    Keep some dignity, and just rebuy the goddamn game.

  30. Post #30
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    There is a bit of a username matchup here, but it's not exact.

    There is a user with a similar name that has used MPGH 2 weeks ago, which falls within the actual time frame of a VAC detection and ban. This isn't proof that it was the OP, but it's worth pointing out.
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  31. Post #31

    February 2014
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    The VAC detection is running on your client, not the server. It is looking for things modified in your game or external sources on interfering with your client. A hacker on the server can't install and run a hack locally on your PC!
    Well that's not exactly true a truely skilled hacker can remotly install software on your PC.... but it's extremely unlikely
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  32. Post #32

    March 2014
    10 Posts
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    Important:
    All VAC bans are permanent - Valve has a zero-tolerance policy for cheating and will not lift VAC bans under any circumstances.
    If a user connects to a VAC-Secured server from a computer with identifiable cheats installed, the VAC system will ban the user from playing on VAC-Secured servers in the future.

    While server admins may choose to ban specific players, server admins cannot VAC ban players. The VAC system is automated - contacting Steam Support to report cheaters is not necessary, nor will Steam Support act on any information provided.

    The VAC system reliably detects cheats using their cheat signatures. Any third-party modification to a game designed to give one player an advantage over another is classified as a cheat or hack and will trigger a VAC ban. This includes modifications to a game's core executable files and dynamic link libraries.

    You will not be banned by the VAC system unless you login to a VAC-secure server with a cheat installed on your computer. (and only when you're actually using it)


    Facepunch doesn't do vac lol

    oh BTW a hacker can't "Get YOU vac banned" that's idiotic and not how VAC works at all.

    also

    I was running back to where my group's house is so i could log off for the night since dieing repeatedly isnt all that fun, got stuck in a rock, my character spazzed out and I was disconnected from the server.
    This appeared similar to what happens on occasion when a door appears to be opened and when you walk through it your character rubber bands and you get Disconnected.
    I tried logging back on right after and it said I was VAC Banned.
    they ban in waves, spazzing out isn't what gets you vac banned. Nice excuse, except not really. You were already marked for a ban and it simply wasn't instant.

    I can't find the link again but there was mention to Cheatpunch flagging accounts for ban due to something with monitoring character speed. And why would I be banned immidetly after having a disconnect while a hacker teleports around killing people through walls, Logging on and off to change his name every few minutes?
    a shitload of people have been teleported and haven't been flagged period.

    people who have actually had screenshots of what they were doing (cheating) have claimed to have "been teleported" or "Glitched" and banned, not a single one has been proven a false positiove. That not how shit works dude, fucking stop it.

  34. Post #34
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    The Saiko's Avatar
    May 2007
    814 Posts
    Just admit it

  35. Post #35

    January 2014
    203 Posts
    eventually someone is going to find an alias on a hack site somewhere, best to just walk away
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  36. Post #36
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    February 2014
    29 Posts
    Your name Googles up with the word hack a few times...I don't have time to look at the instances but I seriously doubt you don't understand how VAC works. You can't be that naive can you?

  37. Post #37

    February 2014
    474 Posts
    $5 OP is the hacker on the server he is mentioning and trying to make it seem as though he was a victim of said hacker.

  38. Post #38
    $5 OP is the hacker on the server he is mentioning and trying to make it seem as though he was a victim of said hacker.
    I bet he was the victim as well as a cheater so that really just makes it all the more better.

  39. Post #39
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    February 2014
    29 Posts
    Also if you are this guy you are in game development right?
    https://twitter.com/Dioxcyde
    Trolling dude?

  40. Post #40
    Also if you are this guy you are in game development right?
    https://twitter.com/Dioxcyde
    Trolling dude?
    "Supporter" not contributer

    AKA fan of indie games

    if he cheats in all of them that's pretty fucked because that hampers the development process and ruins the game for everyone else... but he... supports the devs?