1. Post #1

    January 2014
    83 Posts
    I am feeling a bit burnt out, probably going to shelf the game for a week or two. I had a big base and it was pretty anti-raidable, but everyone quit the server. So I started over, and have died the countless deaths. Been raided for my rock and arrows. I Have even tried building way out in the middle of no where ((Called hacker valley on rustmap.net)) and I never wake up the next day. Now thats part of the game I can respect that... But how do you prevent getting burnt out from starting over? ANy special tricks? Do you just change the way you play and try to rock bash noobs?

  2. Post #2

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    I'm probably going to start a server this weekend and call it "caveman vanilla". No C4, no military weapons. No Kevlar.

    Just actual survival stuff, so your stuff will probably still be there in the morning, but you still run the risk of dieing constantly.
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  3. Post #3

    October 2013
    87 Posts
    Hacker Valley is not the middle of nowhere... try in hide in the rocks or something.
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  4. Post #4
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    February 2014
    213 Posts
    There is no actual content, the player is actually the content. No players no content. Too many players, less chance to survive = too hard content.

    Search for a new, fresh server, start with a group, maybe join a clan. Playing this game alone is hard. Server hopping wont bring you very far. Try to settle down somewhere, meet a few new players. Play with them.
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  5. Post #5

    January 2014
    83 Posts
    I'm probably going to start a server this weekend and call it "caveman vanilla". No C4, no military weapons. No Kevlar.

    Just actual survival stuff, so your stuff will probably still be there in the morning, but you still run the risk of dieing constantly.
    I am actually down with that, can C4 be found still just not crafted or is it completely gone??

  6. Post #6

    February 2014
    316 Posts
    I stopped playing for like 10 days. I still don't know what to do ingame, instead of walking around. Everything I do (ingame) feels senseless.

  7. Post #7
    Kneon's Avatar
    February 2014
    157 Posts
    I am feeling a bit burnt out, probably going to shelf the game for a week or two. I had a big base and it was pretty anti-raidable, but everyone quit the server. So I started over, and have died the countless deaths. Been raided for my rock and arrows. I Have even tried building way out in the middle of no where ((Called hacker valley on rustmap.net)) and I never wake up the next day. Now thats part of the game I can respect that... But how do you prevent getting burnt out from starting over? ANy special tricks? Do you just change the way you play and try to rock bash noobs?
    1. It's all about your perspective. If you go into it knowing that you will die, and lose everything, and dying is just part of it (like "let's see how long i can go without dying") then you don't get burn out, it hooks you and there's tons of replayability.

    2. Every time the server wipes, or you lose everything, you take what you learned to do better next time. Every time I play from the beginning (whatever the cause) I build a new design, new location, and do it better than last time.

    3. Change up your playstyle. If you were a low down murderous theif then try playing the paragon and helping nakeds. If you were a paragon before, switch it up and focus more on PvP this time around.

    4. And finally, remind yourself that it takes literally 2 hours to get tons of loot back up. So even if you got raided or killed, they aren't taking away your research, that's the real progression. Just go grab some materials and you'll be back in no time.
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  8. Post #8
    IGotWorms's Avatar
    September 2013
    676 Posts
    I am feeling a bit burnt out, probably going to shelf the game for a week or two. I had a big base and it was pretty anti-raidable, but everyone quit the server. So I started over, and have died the countless deaths. Been raided for my rock and arrows. I Have even tried building way out in the middle of no where ((Called hacker valley on rustmap.net)) and I never wake up the next day. Now thats part of the game I can respect that... But how do you prevent getting burnt out from starting over? ANy special tricks? Do you just change the way you play and try to rock bash noobs?
    Well...obvious...for any game really...just play something else.

    Also, I wouldn't call hacker valley "in the middle of no where." I built myself a nice little place at the far eastern edge of the map (before they messed up the directions)...like the literal edge of the map. Hell, we had an actual confirmed hacker aimbotting on the server and even he left me alone.

  9. Post #9
    Dennab
    February 2014
    14 Posts
    What we did on our server is we don't allow storage of any kind, so can't be raided if you have nothing. You can still have things but only whats on you. I know that seems weird but it's trying to make it interesting.
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  10. Post #10
    Dionysus9's Avatar
    December 2011
    333 Posts
    I know Hacker Valley like the back of my hand and although its on the edge of nowhere, it also sees a LOT of traffic. There's usually several large bases and its patrolled hard by their occupants, not to mention all the new spawns that head out there to get a little break from the traffic "in town."

    Your main goal is to create a 1x1 building with a metal door. It usually takes me 2-3 hours to do that on a busy server, depending on how many times I die, and how much I have to fight for resources.

    First thing you need is 5 cloth so you can make a bow. Then you need 15 cloth and 30 wood to make a sleeping bag and small box, which you hide somewhere as a temporary spawn point. Keep farming wood and ores and putting them in your box so that if you die you will still have resources immediately available when you respawn at your sleeping bag. This is temporary. Once you have 20 animal fat, 15 stones, and 380+ wood, you craft up your foundation, 4 pillars, 3 walls, wooden doorway, and ceiling, place your furnace inside, and smelt (during the day) your ores until you have the 200 you need for the metal door. Slap down another sleeping bag inside. Slap the door on. You are now relatively safe.

    Rinse and repeat until you have a few of these safe-houses/outposts and spread your loot between them, each with a spawn point (sleeping bag). Hide them the best you can in odd locations, behind rocks, etc.

    Trust no one. Avoid contact with others. Keep your head on a swivel. Always have your bow and arrows on hand and also a pipe shotgun when you can afford it, then a revolver.

    One you are well and truly set up, then move closer into town and plunk down a 1x1 near a radtown and start farming zombies and crates for blueprints/tech.

    Edited:

    also, you can run radtowns for crates as a new spawn and hope to get lucky, maybe get enough cloth and frags for a bow and metal hatchet, or even a gun, blueprint, and/or pickaxe; also you can get food. You need to know where the crates are in the various buildings, but if you can hit them at the right time you can walk away with a good haul and skip having to farm animals to make your bow and bag.

  11. Post #11
    IGotWorms's Avatar
    September 2013
    676 Posts
    One you are well and truly set up, then move closer into town and plunk down a 1x1 near a radtown and start farming zombies and crates for blueprints/tech.
    I don't know if that was a slip or if you just haven't played recently but...no more zombies. And you can't sneak up and pickaxe a mutant wolf/bear like you could with the Zombies although bows still work.

  12. Post #12
    GimmeChicken's Avatar
    January 2014
    113 Posts
    I am feeling a bit burnt out, probably going to shelf the game for a week or two. I had a big base and it was pretty anti-raidable, but everyone quit the server. So I started over, and have died the countless deaths. Been raided for my rock and arrows. I Have even tried building way out in the middle of no where ((Called hacker valley on rustmap.net)) and I never wake up the next day. Now thats part of the game I can respect that... But how do you prevent getting burnt out from starting over? ANy special tricks? Do you just change the way you play and try to rock bash noobs?
    best way to not get burnout is your mindset.
    the moment you start on a new server, accept it, that you will lose everything.

    just play for the "moment".

    some times you get owned the whole time,
    some times you end up with shit you couldnt imagine.
    for me thats the game, to start naked and get as fast as possible stuff via pvp.

    one time in the end we had so much stuff, but we were playing like 16 hours straight on several servers and i really needed sleep. we had like 10 signal flares, 20 c4, kevlars ,everything.
    but we havnt had build a base, we just had shelters everywhere to store loot between pvp encounters.
    usually when someone of us went offline we built a safe house or split the loot in 4 different little houses to be safe over night.
    but this time we didnt care and threw everything on the ground.
    cause we knew, we have had done that soo many times. everyday, today.
    we could get that shit anytime.
    so we stopped building bases, and play just for the moment.

    and i was one of those guys who took it way too serious, slept with speakervolume up to max, to hear the footsteps and the "dum" sound of those noclippers when they relogged inside our houses. 24/7
    good thrills/times
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  13. Post #13

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    I'm probably going to start a server this weekend and call it "caveman vanilla". No C4, no military weapons. No Kevlar.

    Just actual survival stuff, so your stuff will probably still be there in the morning, but you still run the risk of dieing constantly.

    I was playing yesterday and thought how cool it would be to just have bows and hatchets. You'd have fun and skilful fights.

  14. Post #14
    Dennab
    February 2014
    14 Posts
    Count me in.

    best way to not get burnout is your mindset.
    the moment you start on a new server, accept it, that you will lose everything.

    just play for the "moment".

    some times you get owned the whole time,
    some times you end up with shit you couldnt imagine.
    for me thats the game, to start naked and get as fast as possible stuff via pvp.

    one time in the end we had so much stuff, but we were playing like 16 hours straight on several servers and i really needed sleep. we had like 10 signal flares, 20 c4, kevlars ,everything.
    but we havnt had build a base, we just had shelters everywhere to store loot between pvp encounters.
    usually when someone of us went offline we built a safe house or split the loot in 4 different little houses to be safe over night.
    but this time we didnt care and threw everything on the ground.
    cause we knew, we had that done soo many times. everyday, today.
    we could get that shit anytime.
    so we stopped building bases, and play just for the moment.

    and i was one of those guys who took it way too serious, slept with speakervolume up to max, to hear the footsteps and the "dum" sound of those noclippers when they relogged inside our houses. 24/7
    good thrills/times
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  15. Post #15

    January 2014
    92 Posts
    I don't. I am burnt out. There's no point to the game, and there's nothing "emergent" happening. Once the novelty of making a wood or metal building and/or KoS'ing other players wears off, there's nothing to do. There's no progression. No character development. No reason to cultivate relationships with other players. Etc.

    For an emergent game, there's really not any emergence - aside from griefing. At first blush, Rust gives the impression of a very open-ended, deep game. But in reality, it's shallow and restricted.
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  16. Post #16
    sendjes's Avatar
    January 2014
    421 Posts
    I'm probably going to start a server this weekend and call it "caveman vanilla". No C4, no military weapons. No Kevlar.

    Just actual survival stuff, so your stuff will probably still be there in the morning, but you still run the risk of dieing constantly.
    I've been thinking of the same idea, just to test if anyone would play that "style", wouldn't hurt to try it out.

  17. Post #17

    January 2014
    36 Posts
    Sadly, the lack of content is why this great game risks failure. Many of the "Noob Killers" were probably burnt out like the OP at one time. Some kind of player driven content is desperately needed that simultaneously encourages player cooperation and conflict between groups. Or, make the mutant animals into giants that roam and terrorize the entire map, and take a group of 5 to kill.
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  18. Post #18

    February 2014
    45 Posts
    go for the more hardcore servers (ie no modern weaps/limited c4). That's the kind of community i'm trying to forge. resources are a little bit more precious so a little more thought goes into challenges.

  19. Post #19

    February 2014
    28 Posts
    Yeah burnt out here as well after 5 or 6 days of hardcore playing. I even have like 15 C4 in my chest I dont even want to bother using. I used to log in just to keep my base from decaying (and surprised everytime that Im still alive/unraided) but I even stopped doing that. Its probably half decayed now.

  20. Post #20

    January 2014
    377 Posts
    Much like any game, the game can only take it so far. It's the people you play the game with that takes a good game to a great game.

    Try and team up with 1 or 2 other people as it helps A LOT when you are starting over. With 1 or 2 people you can collect resources much faster and it shortens the painful begin part.

    Also if you have 2-3 people hitting tree's does not reduce durability on your tools(Stone hatchet, hatchet, pixaxe, ect) So as crappy as it is, if you have 3 people in a forest just whacking on tree's for 30min you can collect 1k wood easy, on top of the wood piles you find. Helps get your base going.

    As far as bases go suicide bases or door bases are probably your safest best.

    Suicide bases require you to die to get back into your base which makes it hard for people to raid. Not impossible but hard or annoying

    Door bases are one of two things. A.) Lots of doors / rooms so people have to spend LOTS of c4 to get into your stash room, or B.) You build up using the doors to jump on to get to the next level. This way if people blow open the door, they have to wait 5 min to replace it, plus bring a door to get to the next level. If you need help with a cheap base design let me know and I can help you out

    Lastly, try and find a good server that doesn't CONSTANTLY wipe. I have left many servers because of this. I don't mind a wipe every major update, but every update is just stupid, its weekly essentially. When my friend was running a server it was rare that a wipe was needed for the update, so its essentially lazy admins or people who think wipes pump up the population that constantly do it. Don't get me wrong, wiping will temporarily bump your population, but once a few power groups emerge and raid everyone it quickly drops back down to normal numbers. Your better off just building a stable community that will stick on your server through thick and thin.

  21. Post #21
    Dionysus9's Avatar
    December 2011
    333 Posts
    By zombies I mean the "zombie animals" -- my group still refers to them as zombies out of habit.

    Far too many huge bases to raid on my server for me to get burned out. Until I own the entire map I will continue to fight.

  22. Post #22

    December 2013
    121 Posts
    lol, when i read some of the comments..

    point in game.. the most funniest and stupidest of them all..

    even better - point in sandbox game.. just lol..


    but gimmechicken get's whole point of game (any game actually)

    just play for the "moment".
    exactly that..
    every day some new experience, some new ppl, some new funny situations, and some intense fights..


    my advice is play with friends, and make some new friends ingame..
    we started to be more friendly in general, and now we have some new interesting girls and guys playing with us, from all over the europe, having fun and we practice some english also := it's even useful..


    so, play just for fun, and have fun.. it's very simple :)
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  23. Post #23
    alemachete's Avatar
    January 2014
    52 Posts
    taking a break from the game is a good idea, that way you get surprised when you come back and don't go all "OMG i waited 2 weeks only a simple patch" depressed Its what i do.

    As for building a house, try doing the unsuspected. An example is building close to the regular populated area but hidden away from where people walk around. Raiders know a lot of people hide their stuff in hacker valley, just stay away from there.

    Something i learned is having different hidden houses. That way i can move around the map every day circle and hide at night, this helps me from keeping a pattern in case i have a stalker waiting the right moment to raid me, and in case i am raided i have an extra place with all the good stuff for surviving and moving forward.

  24. Post #24
    LO

    February 2014
    101 Posts
    I hide sacks in the rocks with some basic things to start with: cloth armor, chicken,bow,p250.
    Helps a lot.

  25. Post #25
    PremiumKrap's Avatar
    January 2014
    234 Posts
    yeah i tried to make my server when i had it to a no c4, no mil wep server with the mods at the time but the mods kept breaking and i got tired of it.

    I would be interested in a server that had awesome bow battles and hatchet attacks lol

  26. Post #26
    keeftoasty's Avatar
    January 2014
    113 Posts
    and i was one of those guys who took it way too serious, slept with speakervolume up to max, to hear the footsteps and the "dum" sound of those noclippers when they relogged inside our houses. 24/7
    good thrills/times
    Ha is it sad that I've even thought about doing this?

  27. Post #27

    June 2006
    121 Posts
    I'm in a new server. Been there for a few days now only killed by a hacker. I'm gonna have problems. Its me and one buddy. Everyone is heavily established and geared. Air drops only come on 50 players and as you can imagine its battpe royale at air drops. 3 days still have half a base little fire power little armor.

    On big servers you need a group. Solo play just doesn't happen. I'm gonna have to gather resources and organise a trade for an explosive. Great fun but yeah it can be off putting. Starting from scratch is the hardest.

  28. Post #28

    February 2014
    45 Posts
    yeah i tried to make my server when i had it to a no c4, no mil wep server with the mods at the time but the mods kept breaking and i got tired of it.

    I would be interested in a server that had awesome bow battles and hatchet attacks lol
    I'm trying to push that kinda server atm. Mods are okay for the most part with the exception of an airdrop timer, but that can be done manually.

    My issue is getting a population on the server >.<

  29. Post #29
    idonthinkso's Avatar
    January 2014
    265 Posts
    "burn out" according to a game...
    serious business haha
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  30. Post #30

    February 2014
    116 Posts
    I agree. I have stopped playing now since after we had our big ass metal base with everything, C4, kevlar, M4's, pet bears, you name it - it became boring. Raiding other people, some minor PVP'ing, hell I went rouge as a bandit, killing everything for a short while.

    Didnt help.

    What the game needs is variety. But I am certain this is because the game isnt even nearly finished.
    I am sure things will pick up as soon as more (my ) content has been implemented.

  31. Post #31

    January 2014
    78 Posts
    It's important to be able to take a break from a game (or from anything on the internet). Games are supposed to be fun and it's not a good idea to try to force it to be fun. Then you just end up raging.

  32. Post #32

    February 2014
    474 Posts
    Guaranteed solution to burn out:

    Play less.

  33. Post #33

    October 2013
    401 Posts
    I take breaks. I'll play Rust for a week, then play something else for a week or so, then back to Rust. I kinda do all my "online only" games this way, otherwise I just get bored of em...

  34. Post #34

    January 2014
    179 Posts
    Burn out = too much

    Don't play video games so much.

  35. Post #35

    January 2014
    54 Posts
    The prime of this game is in being a fresh spawn, it's hardcore and exciting. Having nothing is the pinnacle of Rust, it's when you have too much and all the players around you are using fancy weapons that the game changes into more of a death match game with loot.

    You should be happy you start off from scratch :) the problem with the game is that it takes little to no time to tech up again and make a proper base. The problem with stone age servers is the lack of primal gameplay options in the vanilla rust. Sure you can play without c4 and blah blah but Rust isn't designed to be at that stage for a long time.

  36. Post #36

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    Burn out can be an issue, even more so when the game is so bare and it its very early alpha state. Right now its find a place to hide, get resources, repair, build shack, get resources, build a base, raid, repeat.

    Try a server that has events, and an arena added. That way you have options besides the same old thing you did yesterday.

    This one has an arena, and I play there often.. not a bad server, maybe it will help you get over that burn out.

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