[Atuelliss]

So yeah, loved the fact that I logged in and suddenly all my weapons are automatically broken. My armor and many weapons were also "missing" but if I dragged something else into those spots they suddenly reappeared....again broken. So I step over to the workbench to repair them as the update says we can do and guess what? No information on how to go about doing that. Nothing seems different.

So I make a new M4, it has 5 slots. I put a flashlight on it and suddenly my M4 which was "Artifact M4" seconds earlier is now "Broken M4."

You guys may wish to test this stuff out more extensively before releasing it, and maybe include more information on how the mechanics for repairing work next time yeah?

[Helk]

What server are you playing on - This was tested for over a week on the official development servers with no issues

[MN WILD 22]

Atuelliss posted:

So yeah, loved the fact that I logged in and suddenly all my weapons are automatically broken. My armor and many weapons were also "missing" but if I dragged something else into those spots they suddenly reappeared....again broken. So I step over to the workbench to repair them as the update says we can do and guess what? No information on how to go about doing that. Nothing seems different.

So I make a new M4, it has 5 slots. I put a flashlight on it and suddenly my M4 which was "Artifact M4" seconds earlier is now "Broken M4."

You guys may wish to test this stuff out more extensively before releasing it, and maybe include more information on how the mechanics for repairing work next time yeah?

Passive aggressive...nice. I'm sure they rolled it out blindly and didn't test it at all. Just throw it against the wall and see if it sticks type of thing.

[KOT9KA]

They could do a wipe and then you completely would not see your M4. Be happy. Its alpha.

[Helk]

Anyone else have this happen?

[tirpider]

Atuelliss posted:

You guys may wish to test this stuff out more extensively before releasing it, and maybe include more information on how the mechanics for repairing work next time yeah?

I thought the current set of players were supposed to be testing things like this and, you know, reporting the bugs they find.

[Atuelliss]

KOT9KA posted:

They could do a wipe and then you completely would not see your M4. Be happy. Its alpha.

I don't have to settle with scraps they throw at me and keep quiet. We payed to play the game, and while it is a privilege it also comes with an expectation. I am ALLOWED to expect the gameplay to work as they claim. If it doesn't then I am ALLOWED to tell them there is an issue.

[chrissyjjj]

same problem... could the server i play on not have implemented their patch??

[Vorius]

Atuelliss posted:

I don't have to settle with scraps they throw at me and keep quiet. We payed to play the game, and while it is a privilege it also comes with an expectation. I am ALLOWED to expect the gameplay to work as they claim. If it doesn't then I am ALLOWED to tell them there is an issue.

Dude - facepalm! You are participating in a game in it's early pre-beta development. Do you have any idea what that means?

[Helk]

Atuelliss posted:

I don't have to settle with scraps they throw at me and keep quiet. We payed to play the game, and while it is a privilege it also comes with an expectation. I am ALLOWED to expect the gameplay to work as they claim. If it doesn't then I am ALLOWED to tell them there is an issue.

Then maybe you should answer my questions so we can help debug your issue.

[Atuelliss]

MN WILD 22 posted:

Passive aggressive...nice. I'm sure they rolled it out blindly and didn't test it at all. Just throw it against the wall and see if it sticks type of thing.

Ok fine. Playing on a very new Community server, with very little players and very light modifications.

[Helk]

Can anyone confirm this issue exists on an official server? Thanks.

[Stewie.D]

For those of u that don't know. Helk is one of the main developers ... Help him out by explaining the issue rather than ranting about it.

[Atuelliss]

Vorius posted:

Dude - facepalm! You are participating in a game in it's early pre-beta development. Do you have any idea what that means?

Actually I know EXACTLY what that means. I was a Mythic employee and tested games as my job. How about you? This is alpha, and that doesn't change the fact that this was rolled out poorly. If you release a patch, you ensure that it works on ALL aspects of your product, not just the Servers you manage. I may be mistaken, but it almost seems like this was tested on a completely closed server, with a single tester logged in, and as soon as it was successful once, they included it in the patch.

If this had been thrown through the ringer, it would have(and might have, but just doesn't seem like it) gone through hundreds of tests where you try to break the server with tons of players logged in and an attempt to bog down the CPU usage.

[KOT9KA]

Atuelliss posted:

Actually I know EXACTLY what that means. I was a Mythic employee and tested games as my job. How about you? This is alpha, and that doesn't change the fact that this was rolled out poorly. If you release a patch, you ensure that it works on ALL aspects of your product, not just the Servers you manage. I may be mistaken, but it almost seems like this was tested on a completely closed server, with a single tester logged in, and as soon as it was successful once, they included it in the patch.

If this had been thrown through the ringer, it would have(and might have, but just doesn't seem like it) gone through hundreds of tests where you try to break the server with tons of players logged in and an attempt to bog down the CPU usage.

Update was on dev servers before. Where you were?

[Stewie.D]

Can't believe u guys have a developer watching this topic and instead of help him sort it you'd rather bicker about it ..

[Vorius]

Atuelliss posted:

Actually I know EXACTLY what that means. I was a Mythic employee and tested games as my job. How about you? This is alpha, and that doesn't change the fact that this was rolled out poorly. If you release a patch, you ensure that it works on ALL aspects of your product, not just the Servers you manage. I may be mistaken, but it almost seems like this was tested on a completely closed server, with a single tester logged in, and as soon as it was successful once, they included it in the patch.

If this had been thrown through the ringer, it would have(and might have, but just doesn't seem like it) gone through hundreds of tests where you try to break the server with tons of players logged in and an attempt to bog down the CPU usage.

Yeah my name is Sid Meier you may have heard of me.

See the problem is what you are describing is the way PRODUCTION software works, not software in this stage of development. Basically, we ARE a big part of the testing.

Since you seem to have a skewed idea of what alpha means, I suggest you study software development cycles and enlighten yourself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...fe_cycle#Alpha)

[Shavasku]

I just died when I touched the water. US Central 4.

[KOT9KA]

Stewie.D posted:

Can't believe u guys have a developer watching this topic and instead of help him sort it you'd rather bicker about it ..

While it is single case as I understand it. The author could at least specify the server on which it happened.

[Downspire]

How about answering Helk's questions. Quit being silly.

[Vorius]

KOT9KA posted:

While it is single case as I understand it. The author could at least specify the server on which it happened.

Said author is too preoccupied with being a whiny little bitch and filling a cup of his tears than to provide meaningful information to help identify the problem in a professional manner.

[Dreldan]

Atuelliss posted:

So yeah, loved the fact that I logged in and suddenly all my weapons are automatically broken. My armor and many weapons were also "missing" but if I dragged something else into those spots they suddenly reappeared....again broken. So I step over to the workbench to repair them as the update says we can do and guess what? No information on how to go about doing that. Nothing seems different.

So I make a new M4, it has 5 slots. I put a flashlight on it and suddenly my M4 which was "Artifact M4" seconds earlier is now "Broken M4."

You guys may wish to test this stuff out more extensively before releasing it, and maybe include more information on how the mechanics for repairing work next time yeah?

That is actually your job here. You paid to do what you just complained they aren't doing.

[Helk]

Ok nice. Anyway

I just want to say we tested this for over a week with over a hundred people and there were no issues, I also hopped on 4 official servers 2 minutes ago and asked and no one has this problem. and neither do I. It is likely the modding software installed on your community server causing the issue.

[HappyTron]

Whenever I disconnect and reconnect to my server my inventory is bugged. All items dissapear and I have to move stuff around to see them again.

[Atuelliss]

Helk posted:

What server are you playing on - This was tested for over a week on the official development servers with no issues

Look Helk, I do apologize for my rant right off the bat. I'm just frustrated from logging in and noticing the change then getting shot in the face without being able to retaliate due to my weapons being insta-broken. Having also no patch notes on the means to utilize the repair feature was also frustrating and it's led to some poorly expressed communicate.

I was on 216.157.78.235:29415. It's a multiplay Community server that started up on the 22nd. It has had very little modification. I understand that Facepunch's priority is it's Official servers but the paid for Community servers would also appreciate some attention.

[MountainMan]

Helk posted:

Can anyone confirm this issue exists on an official server? Thanks.

Cannot confirm that Helk, but I did have some strange behaviour in my inventory when I loged in after the update (on two non-official servers).
First I noticed my hunting bow was missing, so I crafted another. Then when I tried to move items around to arrange my quick slots, the first hunting bow re-appeared, and various other items kept jumping around and changing into different objects.
Not the best description, I'm sorry. Anyway, it then settled down and all is ok it seems.
The durability feature is very welcome though, cheers

Keith

[Atuelliss]

Vorius posted:

Said author is too preoccupied with being a whiny little bitch and filling a cup of his tears than to provide meaningful information to help identify the problem in a professional manner.

Would you grow up? It was a vented rant that expressed a valid issue. Your own immaturity is clearly present. When you have to result to personal insults instead of the topic at hand you demonstrate your own lack of professionalism.

[Stewie.D]

Community servers are up to the GSPs and server admins to update. Not facepunch.

[Helk]

You just need to make a repair bench, it only has one slot, you put the item you need to repair in the repair bench and it happens its really straight foward but I'll update the patch notes

[ViolentCrimes]

@Helk I think there might be a bug about crafting items. I am trying to verify but on one of my servers it has no plugins or anything it cost nothing to make a stone hatchet.


Yeah verified it on 2 servers cost nothing to build a metal door.

[Helk]

Also there is a difference between community servers and modded servers, there's nothing we can do when people start hacking dlls and changing how the game works. I just want to make sure these problems exist on official servers (because we know they are vanilla)

[MountainMan]

Also, since the patch, when I go into console I am now getting a constantly repeating error:
Skipped frame because gfx device is in invalid state: device lost

The game seems to work fine so I am not sure what this is.

[DylanWilson]

Items are replicating, I'm able to place object without them coming out of my inventory and craft items without burning resources.
(On a vanilla server and a Oxide server)

[thuesen207]

dont be so coky

[Gogaqt]

Helk posted:

You just need to make a repair bench, it only has one slot, you put the item you need to repair in the repair bench and it happens its really straight foward but I'll update the patch notes

What about the speed at which items get destroyed? Because if you receive a shoot with kevlar set you lose 2-3 condition per shot, that's too fast.

[Dreldan]

Atuelliss posted:

Look Helk, I do apologize for my rant right off the bat. I'm just frustrated from logging in and noticing the change then getting shot in the face without being able to retaliate due to my weapons being insta-broken. Having also no patch notes on the means to utilize the repair feature was also frustrating and it's led to some poorly expressed communicate.

I was on 216.157.78.235:29415. It's a multiplay Community server that started up on the 22nd. It has had very little modification. I understand that Facepunch's priority is it's Official servers but the paid for Community servers would also appreciate some attention.

You're missing the point, they can't test their stuff around modded servers. The mods need to work around the game and its features, not the other way around. Any smart admin of a server would know at this point that after a patch all mods should be turned off until they have been updated with the latest patch.

[jimos87]

Players also reporting this on the server im on, its duplicating the items with different names but when you throw them on the flooor they change back to full strength item

[archit3ct]

Helk could you please wipe official servers : / they have been up for over a month, and so many big structures everywhere. Also I am playing on official servers and this issue has not been happening the same way for me.

[Helk]

jimos87 posted:

Players also reporting this on the server im on, its duplicating the items with different names but when you throw them on the flooor they change back to full strength item

Are these vanilla servers? or modded at all

[postal]

Atuelliss posted:

Actually I know EXACTLY what that means. I was a Mythic employee and tested games as my job. How about you? This is alpha, and that doesn't change the fact that this was rolled out poorly. If you release a patch, you ensure that it works on ALL aspects of your product, not just the Servers you manage. I may be mistaken, but it almost seems like this was tested on a completely closed server, with a single tester logged in, and as soon as it was successful once, they included it in the patch.

If this had been thrown through the ringer, it would have(and might have, but just doesn't seem like it) gone through hundreds of tests where you try to break the server with tons of players logged in and an attempt to bog down the CPU usage.

Uh you paid for the full game and get to test it early as an extra bonus, if that's gonna get you this angry maybe you should consider treating this as a pre-order and waiting for final release. But in no way does this give you a free pass to be as rude to the development team as you want so please play nice. Besides, demanding further alpha testing be done before giving a patch to the alpha testers to test is rather silly lol, it's up to you guys to find mistakes they miss.