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Post #41Lol I guessing you never looked up the definition of cognitive dissonance either.
You are putting personal connotations on how people play a video game by claiming people who kill naked people are 14 year old virgins who then have to rationalize the behavior by claiming it was to farm loot. I kill people because I can, it is fun, it is safe, and sometimes they do have quite a bit of resources. I am also an adult married father who is not a sociopath in my personal life because unlike yourself I am perfectly capable of playing a game and keeping it in perspective.
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You've been unlucky. Consider dropping a small storage first and then slowly filling it up. 2 cloth here, 4 there, wait until you get 15. Also, you may need to run quite a way out from the initial spawn area to get away from the crowd. Once you get a feel for the map you'll have a better idea which areas are high-traffic and which areas are low traffic.
Use this map: rustmap.net
I like Ballzak and Coast valley areas, also Wasteland South and Hacker Valley North. You almost never spawn anywhere near those areas and so they are relatively quiet. Sometimes big bases there, and can be dangerous, but if nobody is home that also keeps other competitors away.
Good luck. Don't give up.
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You damn carebear.... Learn to play Rust or join a server with 0 people / pve.
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I didn't know that being married and a father makes you a non psychopath.
So... according to you, ruining someones work.. as in gathering resources which is boring as hell.. is fun? So you have no regards whatsoever for the player you just shot for "fun"? If that is not a psychopathy trait, then I don't know what is.
I truly believe that you are the one without perspective. You are playing against other HUMAN players.. just because it's online and a video game doesn't mean that there isn't another person on the other side of the screen.
This is so familiar... it's like world war II fighterjet pilots that said that they had no problems in shooting other planes.. no regret, no nothing.. until one of them once saw the cockpit of his enemy and saw that there was a human being in it, just like him.
Just because you are not a psychopath in real life because you are a father and husband (according to you at least... BTK was also a husband and father.. but whatever) doesn't mean you can keep it in "perspective". As far as I see it, you have NO perspective at all.
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Remember kids if your age is on the clock you are ready for the cock
''(and its not the hackers!)''
As soon as I saw this I thought
''Oh another guy bitching about PVP''
I was right
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I said I was not a sociopath, the father and husband implies that I am not a virgin and I am an adult. I could be a sociopath, but trying to discern that from interactions in a video game is an exercise in stupidity. I get that you enjoy being stupid, but stop wasting other peoples time with your moronic rants about morality in a make believe world.
But to answer your stupid questions, yes it is fun to "ruin" someones work. Since it is a game it is not a trait of a sociopath since once again I am able to differentiate real life from a game. Sorry that you do not possess that trait, you should probably speak with a mental health expert about your tendency to blur the lines of reality and virtual reality.
There is another person on the other side of the screen and that is what makes the game fun. Maybe that other person is some mentally unstable try hard like yourself that is incapable of understanding what a game is, most likely they are an average player that gets somewhat mad at the inconvenience of dying in a video game and can maturely learn from the experience and play better on the next life.
You know why your analogy to WWII pilots is stupid, because humans do not respawn after being shot with a shotgun they die. Once again seek out a mental health expert to get a grip on what reality is versus virtual reality.
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Learn to play and stop crying... Jesus
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Humans don't respawn like in the game, obviously. What about the time that player wasted so you could get off and have some fun?
You have the reasoning of a raccoon with syphilis.
Good luck to you..
Oh, and you can take your condescending semantics and go fuck yourself.
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Games are a waste of time by definition. If you get angry at losing pixels once again seek out a mental health specialist because for most of us life is full of far more daunting challenges than losing out on some fake wood and ore. You are the one whining and trying to paint people as mentally ill for playing a sandbox game a certain way and then you get all bent out of shape when someone puts you in your place. Also bravo for taking Psychology 101 and using terminology that does not fit, always fun to see some stupid college freshmen try and fail at using a professional term.
So good sir you can kindly go eat a bag of dicks.
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Get better at the game.
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And then you say that I don't understand what cognitive dissonance is and that you do. /facepalm.
Dude, you are a douche and feel that jerking off to killing people that you don't know is somehow fun.
Instead of projecting your fears onto me.. I suggest that you go and get yourself checked.
This dude rationalizes everything... has the insight of a squirrel.
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@Rusty__[GG] And Guchion. Everybody that has played the game has been in the same situations.. Everyone starts off with naked with a rock. Everybody starts off in the same situation. It is up to the player to make decisions on how to progress and how to get better. So what I suggest is stop complaining on here about the game and try to get better or just don't play it at all.
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Rusty will never leave. I bet he rants on the forums begging to make the game more casual and easier to cater to his inability to learn to play, rather than actually playing the game. He's an egotistical piece of shit, who derails threads with "IT'S IMMORAL TO KILL PEOPLE IRL SO DON'T DO IT TO PIXELS YOU HARDCORE BASEMENT DWELLING VIRGINS."
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Basically you can't read, you assume too much, you fill in the gaps with your own stupidity and on top of all that, you copy the thoughts of someone else and repeat it.
What a worthless POS.
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What he doesn't realize, is the easier they make the game, the more disadvantaged he'll be because all the players that are better than him will have an easier time as well.
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Anyone else think ZombieJesus and Rusty_[GG] are actually the same guy with two accounts?
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Thank God I have nothing to do with that lack of empathy a-hole.
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@FlippyT Yeah I bet he does haha, He doesn't understand that everybody else had to overcome everything. And because they did that makes them 14 year old virgins that have no lives and live in there mothers basement.. I laugh at the fact of how close minded he is.
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Exactly... It's actually a huge advantage to spread a number of small innocuous bases aroud the various resource areas. You can "suicide-teleport" amongst them and gather what's there. Once in a while you'll need to run from base-to-base, but only run in near-complete darkness, using the skyline as your guide. Only one of our five bases on a extremely busy official server has been raided, and it's was a really obvious one, near known hackers.
Also, take advantage of "melting" structures that you come across. It's far cheaper to put up new walls than build the entire thing from scratch.
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so what im a bad person as i killed a naked guy no as it comes down to you or me and well i want it to be me that walks away and dont say naked guys dont kill as i have been killed many times as they claim to to need food or help and when you let your guard down POW shot gun in the face so forgive me if i see a naked guy and think he needs to die or it could be me so if getting killed is your problem go to a PvE or get better as how is your start in the game any different to mine or anybody else and why play a game if it makes you that mad there is no logic in that.
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The early game IS about gathering resources and getting established, you're just not doing it right. Learn the map, learn where you are on that map, and stop staring at the resource node when you farm it. Instead, take a swing at it and look around. Rinse and repeat for every single node you run to and you'll never get a surprise shotgun to the back of the head again. You'll never avoid the people who intend to kill you for long, but if you actually know where to go, and how to get there then it gets a lot easier to get an established base.
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The people that shoot on sight are the people that came from Infestation Survivor Stories
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Since the servers get wiped every once in a while, also Raiders can take away everything you have, just try to improve your basic skills. They remain "forever". That said, I spent 3 hours just practicing how to handle the handstone in any situation. Meaning how do I hunt a deer with handstone? How do I attack a fully geared-up guy? Is it possible to kill a red bear/wolf with only a handstone? (It is :))
As for the start on a new, high-populated server I found this to be the most effective way:
- Get away from the road. Use the map to find areas like Hacker Valley or other areas where loot still spawns but no rad areas are near
- Get a stone hatchet. It makes killing animals and resource gathering more efficient
- Kill 2-3 animals to get enough cloth for a hunting bow. Craft that hunting bow and some arrows
- Gather some wood and move further towards wasteland. Set up a campfire in a well hidden spot and make enough cooked chicken breast to fill your food bar to max
- Go back to an area with animals and resource nodes and practice aiming with the bow. The bow is a highly effective weapon if you know how to use it.
- Kill some animals and craft a sleeping bag. Craft a box and place both objects in a well-hidden place in the mountains
- Now you can start farming resources for a Workbench, Furnace, Metal Door, WoodBase 1x1x1 (in that order)
- From that point on, you're good to go
The whole process takes about 30 minutes on high-populated servers. If you die, just start again. Setting up a camp before crafting a bow is senseless in my opinion, because if someone kills a bambi near his camp, he'll probably also raid and destroy the camp.
Additional "tips" (just things I noticed):
- max your microphone volume. Many players have such a low volume set, you can't hear them say "friendly" or anything and thus can't know if they intentionally aim at you or just don't understand that you should hide your weapon to appear friendly
- be sneaky. Don't just run around on the road or a plain area. Hide behind resource nodes/animals while farming them. Don't ever use a torch/flashlight in the dark.
- rotate. While farming, try to rotate around the resource nodes/animals to see if someones approaching. While running, stop every 30 seconds to look around
- be aggressive. If someone gets near you and starts shooting, don't run away. You'll most likely get killed. Instead, strafe and shoot with your bow. If the other person is near, run through them while attacking with your hatchet/handstone. Guns are very hard to handle at close distance. Try to stand "in" the other person and go forwards and backwards while hitting. "Elite bandits" don't even think about switching their guns for a melee weapon. Also, melee attacks from a naked freshspawn tend to have a great psychological effect on bandits. They'll feel attacked in their pride or something
- ask for help. I've been on many servers so far and I've never seen one where nobody would offer help to a bambi if asked. There are assholes, but they're the minority. It just seems like they're the majority because nice players leave bambis alone and often stay unnoticed
- research! even if they kill you, the recipes stay learned till complete wipe
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Join a crew, they will protect you and you will have fun.
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Try a less populated server (around 20 players connected), that's all.
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Here's what I do when I join a fresh server
I keep respawning until I spawn near a rad town and then search the rad town for guns.
Once you've found a gun you are more likely to survive if you know how to handle the gun
Bear in mind that you are a fresh spawn so you wouldn't lose anything if you die in the rad towns
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"Every server I've tried, as a naked guy with no stuff, except the few resources ive managed to scrape together, I get shot on sight." dude, rule #1 in any survival game, don't be in sight. you think the kevlar guys carrying silenced m4's ran around open fields in the beginning? you have to sneak, hide, take it very very slow, yeah, you'll get got sometimes, but playing it slow and smart will eventually pay off, then you'll be the dude in kevlar with a silenced m4 mowing people down.
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What you're saying has nothing to do with his complaint.
To OP : Look around you when you go get recourses , be aware of your surroundings if you see someone with a gun he will shoot you because you have probably gone and took 6 wood piles and iron/stone piles.
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Lmao at how this thread went violent fast, this Rusty guy... He's something else, always calling names, you'd think he's a basement dweller... or worse, a teenager who gets no satisfaction out of anything other than bullying and bantering another human being. So to you my friend(don't know how I could use the word friend on someone so cruel) - (maybe because I'm a nice guy) but anyways, back to what I wanted to say, can you just grow up, and stop calling out names, when all you're doing is making a fool out of yourself. Damn. Thank you, and carry on.
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Surely you can't think letting someone get established in your area is good for your own survival...
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Usually low population servers give you the chance to actually acquire some materials before getting killed, not every server is filled with people that KOS but generally you have to expect that sort of thing from this game. I have been killed numerous times with a lot of resources, I just go and get more.
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Rust is not a survival game. The develops can claim it is, but it isn't. If you can respawn, it's not a survival game.
It's an FPS with no score, no objectives and no crosshairs, and you can build random stuff that people can destroy.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...al_video_games
your opinion does not necessarily equal fact.
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I could run around and harvest those resources in like 20 minutes, and risk getting shot and losing everything in the process of running from rock to rock.
OR I could kill a naked in like 20 seconds get the same resources, and not risk getting shot while harvesting resources.
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Try our server if you want. Steam group rustify.
There are two rules, dont be a dick and dont kill naked without gun, if they dont threaten you.
I've been in enough servers where kos was more rule than exception.
So i made my own. :)
Sepe
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Oh god Mavajo is here now. The guy who thinks crosshairs should be in the game. Good lord.
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I understand people and their want for newbie protection but thats not the point of this game in my opinoin. Rust(at this point at least) is much more about learning how to survive with nothing, staying far away from populated areas, stay in the trees, if you are standing still you should be crouching, dont just run blindly from one resource to the next, take your time and scout the area, build your base far away from others. (run on sentence I know) These are just a few of my techniques for starting on a new server. It is half the fun to never know if you are being stalked or someone is just waiting for you to make a mistake etc... KOS happens... easy way to avoid it... don't be seen :) good luck and dont get pissed get even!
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