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Post #1I've been playing rust for a while now, and I have a pretty good grip on the game now.
I had a nice house and so on, but had to go away for a while. Start from scratch again I thought, not a problem.
So today Ive been playing, or at least trying to.
Every game ive played today has gone like this:
Get enough resources to build a shelter. Get shot before getting to place it. Start again.
Every server I've tried, as a naked guy with no stuff, except the few resources ive managed to scrape together, I get shot on sight.
I'm sick of it. I just can't get to the point where I have a bedroll and a shitty shack because everyone shoots me on sight.
Can we please get some sort of newbie protection in place? It must be utterly discouraging to any new starter.
I think part of the problem is, if an area has naff all resources its easier to kill newbies than actually get the resources.
The last death I had I could not find a normal animal. I managed to luck out and get some food on a corpse and gather enough stuff to build a shelter in a out the way place. Someone found me and shot me. Not even a hello, or anything.
I guess I was just a walking resource pile to him.
Today I've tried official and user servers, its the same everywhere, I can't even get enough cloth together to build a bedroll.
I would run away from everyone, but you cant dodge a bullet.
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sounds like you need a pve carebear server, bro
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Sorry if this counts as advertising! Please delete this post if necessary.
You should give my server a shot man. It is Vanilla and we do not stop people from killing who they want but it is discouraged as much as words can discourage it. 69.162.79.170:28025
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find a "noob friendly" server.
there are a few servers out there where the community doesnt just kill everything that moves.
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Nudes are a resource
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No PvP server, tried that yet?
Last night I logged into a fresh game, Heard barking bears as my screen fades in. I am already bleeding. I run around like crazy because I'm already at a disadvantage, run into 3 gun toting randoms and get shot on sight.
Happened about 4 times within 45 min playing. Never did get a shack or anything also, I will be back on the server tonight trying to come up. It happens.
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Sounds like you're just bad at survival games. You have to learn to hide better, and mindful of anyone coming near you, and don't be afraid to run.
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Are you staying near any of the towns or roads? Once logging in you should grab enough wood for a door and shack and food and go right to somewhere that is kind of far from anyone.
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Maybe try a low pop server? I run a server with a Low pop around 5-20 players. I wont advertise it on this thread but you can pm if you like the IP.
It is a PVP server but most people who play are friendly.
PS The server is in France--- I am from the UK
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Oh yes I know. The first spawn was behind a Rad Tow. I could understood that situation. Other times was my fault mostly. Too trusting to naked men i guess...TMI?
Yeh but my struggles is a non-issue I know how to get around, I was just running around too much before I went to bed. Seeing how the server played...I found out, pretty violent.
Thanks though.
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I've found a couple of borderline PvP PvE, most people will help you, but there is no hard limit preventing you from killing. Just find a couple of friends, or make friends that will protect you in exchange for resources, that seems to work for me.
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Sorry, Guchion, I think this game is not for you. I enjoy that challenge. Sometimes I die 10 times in a row before I get "traction" and place my sleeping bag. You can run radtown crates for cloth, weapons, and food; you can team up with other guys spawning near you; you can run to the edges of the map and make calculated, furtive, runs into the edges of resource areas to grab one animal, or one wood node; you have to lay low, play it slow, keep your head on a swivel and cannot get discouraged just because you die a few times.
That is what I love about this game.
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I love how "hardcore Rust gamers" say: "This is a survival game".
Well, surviving doesn't mean shooting everything that moves. You can survive by not being a dick, too.
And to those that say nakeds are resource. Let me get this straight:
A naked with 20-40 wood, some stones, ores, etc, that took him a while to get because of the slow stone tool and because you need to hide from animals, etc...
versus...
A guy with a gun and metal hatchet that could easily gather those materials from piles.. but chooses to shoot someone instead?
Obviously "hardcore" players don't kill for resources, that is just cognitive dissonance (look it up if you don't know what it means) and more of a power trip for 14 year old virgins that think they are somebody by killing another player in a fucking video game.
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As long I can not see if you carry a gun, ill kill you on sight.
Died enough times to "naked" people.
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Nakeds get shot on sight because often times people grief on nakeds, run up, then when you drop your guard shotgun blast to the head.
So it's up to new people to keep their heads on a swivel, and run the moment they see another player.
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You're the only person in this thread who has used the word "hardcore" so I don't know where you're getting your information from but...
Killing people for resources is a perfectly viable way of collecting and "cognitive dissonance" has nothing to do with anything... you're misunderstanding what that is.
Also, making age-related insults along with the classic "virgin" card doesn't help your case...
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Quit discriminating, all people are resources :]Nudes are a resource
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Don't quit the game entirely.
Even if you aren't good at survival type games, the game is hardly 10% finished.
Check back later if you don't like how it is now.
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Whenever someone uses "kid" or "virgin" to insult someone, it's a pretty safe bet that it's just a hormonal, acne ridden teenager with self esteem problems..
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"viable way to collect"? Yes. Douche move, yes.
I can go out today and kill my neighbor because his music is loud. Will it stop the loud music? Yes. Is it also fucked up? Yes.
"cognitive dissonance" has everything to do with this... but I certainly will not discuss this on a Rust forum.
Anyone that goes off topic and criticizes the semantics, is an idiot. Also, a not so bright person that has no abstract thinking whatsoever.
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Pro tip: Don't build out in the open.
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Sounds like you suck at the game man. Try playing smart, every single person playing starts off naked with a rock.
Its not the game bro ...its you. This isn't a carebear mmo like WoW. The enemy in this game are actually thinking players, use your head a little bit, stop being so blind and lazy.
A lot of people actually like competitive games that require them to think in order to prosper which is why this game is so popular.
Its not meant for people like you, its not your fault, you just aren't the kind of person who will enjoy it. There are plenty of easier games out there, just plz don't try and make people feel bad for not lowering themselves to your competitive level out of pity.... how fun would that be for them?
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I've killed naked guys with 1000 wood and 100+ metal ore. If a naked guy is farming resource piles, there is a decent chance he's been at it for a while. It is about the resources for me, and also about territorial dominance. Plenty of well-established people farm naked in the hopes that people won't be as eager to kill them.
Survival does not mean having to shoot everyone you see, but doing so does increase your chance of survival in the short term.
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LOL
I love how these "hardcore" players (yes, hardcore) think they are different. That they are somewhat superior to the rest of the players out there.
Fucked up thing to be proud of. Guys like this have a lot going for them in their lives.... yeah, right.
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I guess that makes you a softcore casual who only plays for 30 minutes a day.
All he said was the game isn't made for you. If you don't like it, quit playing the game. Because they won't cater to the minority, which is you.
Most players are perfectly fine with how the system works. If you don't like being killed as a freshspawn and want to whine on the forums about it (because that's all you do) then go on a PvE server. They are literally made for people who don't want to deal with the PvP aspect. Quit bitching, quit whining, and go play on those servers.
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Again, no one has said a word about being superior...
In fact, you're the only one here who is obviously trying to be better than everyone else.
And failing miserably lol.
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Honestly, I have to give it to you, you tried my friend, but no, that doesn't work around here, petty kindness gets you nowhere in rust, if you haven't learned that by now, you probably never will, and also, its not the power trip from killing, its the power trip from hearing someone rage, and cry about losing their gear... Just sayin'
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You live in your own little world.. don't you?
People don't say anything because they will get flamed and it's just not worth it. Nobody discusses anything here.. they just flame.
But go back to your mommie's basement and play Rust for another 24 hours straight. See ya.
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So if I disagree with you im "hardcore" ... whatever the fuk that means lol.
I love this game. I don't cry when I die, and I don't get killed non stop as a new spawn, cause I don't play like an idiot.
You make a post stating how shitty you are at Rust .... and then throw personal attacks when people don't wanna dumb down a game to make it easy for someone who cant be bothered to think on his own.
Edit : sorry thought you were the op.... guess all you "softcores" sound (whine) alike
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Better? Having a different opinion that the rest of you is me thinking I'm "better"... oooookay.
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well interesting mixture of responses.
Lets be clear. I could not have "Hidden" or otherwise avoided these deaths.
Since I posted last I tried a low pop server that claimed to be noob friendly.
Some guy with a P250 shot me just as I was gathering enough resources to make a bed roll.
I found my hut, and he shot me again.
For what? a rock and some wood.
So much for noob friendly.
The thing is, once your established its much more fun, I dont mind getting into fights and losing because I am established and have somthing to get back to.
Its the early game, that can be ruined by people just killing noobs for no reason at all.
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I love how you assume that because I do not agree with killing EVERYTHING makes me a bad player or that I do not know how to play on PvP servers....... ooookay.
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No, you personally attacking everyone else here, calling people virgins (which has what to do with anything, btw?), and "14-year olds" is how you're trying to be better than everyone else.
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the early game is fine. Just because you arte bad at it does not mean its ruined.
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I didn't know that being a virgin or a 14 year old was a bad thing.... maybe to you it is?
I'm just stating the mind state of the players.. no negative (or positive) connotations... that's all you, buddy.
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Let me offer a little bit of friendly advice for hyper-competitive servers:
You should make dropping your sleeping bag (in a fairly safe location, hidden in rocks, near resources) a #1 priority. Best location is probably away from a radtown and away from a spawn area. You're looking for relative seclusion. If you die, big deal, you spawn next to your bag and can resume your efforts without having to re-orient yourself. Actually building a shack with a door is not that great of a defense-- it normally provokes someone into hacking down the door and removing your bag. Most people will not stop to hatchet a sleeping bag that is not in a shack unless they have a base nearby.
Second priority is to hide a small storage nearby. Keep dying, spawning, and filling up your storage until you have some resources tucked away. Don't carry your family fortune on you when you are out gathering.
Once you have a bag and a storage box, you are freed from the obligation to hunt for food-- just die to hunger and respawn at your bag. Stockpile food in your hidden small storage. If you hide your storage in the rocks somewhere sneaky, its likely to last a few hours, a day, or more, before someone stumbles on it. That should be plenty of time for you to cobble together enough stuff to get started.
Third priority is a stone hatchet, followed by a bow (or two, one stashed in case you die) and of course arrows.
A lot of times you can find abandoned buildings with accessible furnaces and workbenches, you don't necessarily need to make them yourself. When you are smelting, stand somewhere safe and secluded that gives you a view of the furnace. Practice light (illumination) discipline; never ever burn anything at night, not a campfire, not a torch-- no light at night, ever. If you can't see well enough to move, stand still and wait for it to get light.
While you are doing all this, scout for a nearby secluded place to drop a 1x1 with metal door. You're going to need around 400 wood and 200 metal frags to pull it off, but once you have a 1x1 with a metal door and a bag inside you are safe. Most people won't waste 2 c4 on a single 1x1.
Never ever walk into another player's space without his permission, even if he appears naked and even if he seems friendly. Many many nakeds are hiding shotguns, revolvers, and even m4's on them. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a naked guy and said "hello" only to have the guy charge me. The guy was probably just trying to see my name, but he could have been trying to plug me with a pipe shotgun. Sometimes if I'm feeling generous I will back up and tell the guy to back off; again I have been followed by "nakeds" trying to be "friendly" many times after telling them to "back off" or "move along" only to end up having to shoot them to protect myself. Just don't go near other players.
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I see, so you know exactly how I play do you?
So tell me how to get better?
How should have I avoided these people one shotting me with shotguns?
How I should have avoided the guy who found my hidden shack?
Also I'd love to hear your answer on how I am supposed to get better?
The problem is, the early game should be about finding resources and getting established, the problem is when people are so paranoid they kill nakeds "Just in case" or because they think they might have resources on them.
You can't stop assholes being assholes, but you can make it obvious who is not packing a decent weapon, or any weapon at all.
And then maybe you can stop shooting newbies.
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With the greatest respect Dionyus, I appreciate what your saying, but in nearly every case today, ive been repeatedly killed before even getting 15 cloth for a bedroll.
Maybe I've been incredibly unlucky and just not spawned near any animals every game, but then thats another issue with early game surely?
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I get killed once or twice..maybe before I have a foundation set up. Be aware of your surroundings? don't stand still while gathering?
Use your head man...I don't know why you are having so much trouble, but to ask everyone to dumb down how they play and let you build up until you have a huge base with C4 is just ridiculous.
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No, but I think you might. Multiple people have all brought points and arguments proving you and your opinions wrong, and instead of acknowledging them and having an actual discussion, you just throw some out-of-context personal attacks to make yourself feel high and mighty.
People don't say anything because they're content with how the system works. If so many people just absolutely hated the way the game works, don't you think we'd see A LOT more threads about it?
And the reason we flame a lot of those people who do, is because they brought no arguments or points to back up their opinions. With shitty grammar to boot which makes it really hard to take a lot of them seriously. When someone says "teh game is 2 hard when your a freshspawn pls add safezones and punish faggots who KoS k thx bai." of course they're going to be flamed.
Well the food would be free, the living quarters would be free, I would have no responsibilities and all the time in the world. To be honest I think living in your mother's basement playing videos games all day sounds like a pretty awesome way to live.
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Also, once you have a relatively safe spawn point-- consider making another, and another. Don't just put all your eggs into a single shack and think "ok I'm established." Go for that 1x1 with a metal door, but drop a few bags and hidden storage boxes elsewhere. Pop a stone hatchet, a bow and a few arrows in there and drop a bag nearby. If you die, or if your "base" is destroyed, you can respawn at a known location and maybe your bow and arrows will still be there.
Don't put all your eggs in one basked. Spread out. Make several respawn areas with bags and a minimal amount of low level gear.
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