1. Post #41
    EXILE [HCPVP]'s Avatar
    January 2014
    37 Posts
    Again, ladies and gentlemen, the kind of sociopaths we regularly deal with.
    I find it exceptionally amusing how you toss "sociopath" around because you have no real argument to form in terms of defending yourself or the rest of the staff.

    Armchair psychiatrists are comical indeed.

    Doesn't bat an eye at Tex posting psychotic rage directed at him.
    I must have missed that bit, and cannot seem to find any instances of psychotic rage directed at myself within this thread.

    Doesn't seem to mind the "grade-school, prepubescent insults" of Evesest throwing out "dorks" in the OP (because people over twelve totally say that!)
    An ignorant, blanket generalization formed entirely with the sole intent to shift attention onto the OP and off of him and his administrator pals. Classic.

    Soils his pants at an off-hand reference to autoerotic asphyxia.
    Not even worth addressing.

    Well thank God the burden of proof isn't on us, then, it's on the accusers. Again, only sociopaths think a person has to disprove an accusation. Normal people with normal people thoughts understand Evesest might want to get around to proving his accusation.
    Multiple individuals have provided statements that form a pattern of doubt, leading to the burden of proof now being on you. I suggest you spend more time educating yourself and less time building gazebo's on the side of the road.

    Normal people with normal people thoughts might start to wonder why he doesn't understand the tools and admin has at his disposal.
    Someone without prior knowledge might make the assumption that it was simply a toggle or what have you, and not a set of gear that you equip (which, frankly, is an absurd implementation to begin with).

    Normal people might wonder why he's changed his story. Normal people might wonder how said he had rock solid proof but didn't manage to screenshot him getting killed or kicked (which is it, now?)
    He explained that quite clearly above, I suggest you pay attention.

    Normal people with normal people thoughts might look at that and go, huh, the admins don't have to disprove anything, this looks more like a crazy, angry rager flipping out. They happen in videogames. A lot.
    Only he doesn't, and has other people backing up his initial statements with accounts of their own that are quite similar to his own experiences. The only people here that are saying you are not doing anything wrong are yourself and the other administrator who chimed in above.

    How convenient.

    Again, here's a thing that makes sense in his head. He goes off in a rage about ADMIN ABOOS! ADMIN ABOOS!
    ABOOS?

    You have the gall to make a comment about the OPs age above (yet another underhanded jab), while you yourself are likely not even out of your teens as evidenced by your repeated use of such terms.

    So I post some pictures to show the kind of admin'ing I do. Building tiny buildings. Being chatty with the regulars. In his head, this is "irrelevant."
    They are irrelevant. You certainly wouldn't post screenshots of yourself porting in and killing a player while you had god mode on, would you? Which is the subject of discussion here.

    Anyone with admin on a server could produce screenshots like that in a matter of minutes, easily. I'm very familiar with the tools and functions available to owners/admins through both RCON and all of the available modding APIs.

    Because every time you do, it becomes a selling point for our server. It becomes a high point. We get rid of people like you. Trouble players. Disruptive morons. You are exactly the kind of people we don't want to attract.
    You really think that somehow, in your twisted mind, this thread is painting your server in a positive light? Wow.

    Who your friends are can say a lot about you, but man, who hates you says so much more.
    What a ridiculous statement, with no intent other than to create further drama.

    We don't want racists. We don't want homophobes. We don't want cheaters. We don't want ragers.
    Hate is completely acceptable though, as referenced above. The level of hypocrisy from you and the other administrator is astounding, to say the least.

    Please, by all means, reply more. The more I can point to you and go "Do you want to play on a server where the admin doesn't spawn shit tons of C4 but instead builds tiny little gazebos, and also kicks people like Evesest," the more regulars we attract. Like I said, we hit high 90s at peak. I'd love to see that pass 100.
    I've personally never played on your server, but after reading this thread I wouldn't even consider it. You have a smug, arrogant attitude that makes me think there is some truth to what these other individuals have been saying.

    It's not hard to populate your server, with proper advertising. That having been said, negative press can devastate a server population.

    Food for thought, oh wise one.
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  2. Post #42
    andypopz's Avatar
    January 2014
    335 Posts
    Being rude to players is bad policy, and Tex stated that he's willing to boot people for what would seem to be small infractions. I'll not be trying his server any time soon.
    Tex only boots people for bitching at admin, or Misogynist Comments/Homophobic Slurs/Racist Slurs/Chat-spamming or Chat-Trolling. More servers should use this model. People still get to play however they want, curse like sailors and, and bandit all day.


    EDIT: If you do any of the above you have earned the hostility. Oh, I'll stop white-knighting now.
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  3. Post #43

    November 2012
    2 Posts
    While looking for a new server to play I did see this server in the list, and after reading this mountain of text it seems I dodged a bullet by not clicking connect.
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  4. Post #44
    Prov3rbial's Avatar
    February 2014
    462 Posts
    Tex only boots people for bitching at admin, or Misogynist Comments/Homophobic Slurs/Racist Slurs/Chat-spamming or Chat-Trolling. More servers should use this model. People still get to play however they want, curse like sailors and, and bandit all day.


    EDIT: If you do any of the above you have earned the hostility. Oh, I'll stop white-knighting now.
    After finishing reading the thread, I changed my post (I think you saw). It seems pretty dire when 3-4 random people on the forum started complaining about the same server, but now I'm not sure. I like active admin teams, but I've found that those kinds of teams are also the most likely to abuse. I have no idea if that's what happened here, so maybe I'll check out the server and see.
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  5. Post #45

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    Let me clear a few things up.

    A) I'm not going to suggest anyone prioritize removing admin armor or weapons. I don't use macroing keyboard and it's a pain. If the "set is broken" by it, you're dealing with an admin, not another player. Expect it. I've had to deal with wildlife more than a few times while helping players as well. This is a straw man and a specious argument. Read: Petty, like the rest of their behavior. I'm not going to teleport away from a player or avoid a player I've told to stop doing something. Back on topic now...

    B) This is a new server as of 1/31 and wiped on 2/8 not some renamed old server. If your "taco" reference was to a server name, fine. If like many players you're just a bigotbor pseudo-racist please go get seek counseling or take your meds.

    C) We've banned something like 50 other trolls this week alone, as well as asked others to leave for somewhere more suited to them. I guess you just couldn't bring yourself to take the high road. The only thing special about this situation is that i wouldn't be surprised if you continue to want to escalate this even more. Grow up and move on. We've seen death threats, harassment and DDoS threats at times and I won't put up with any level of this kind of bullshit on my server. You have no say and posting here won't change anything other than to possibly expand the group of people aware if our server as well as the pool of people who don't want to play with you. I don't do what you want so you rage, throw a fit, misrepresent yourself and others. I imagine that you're quite pleased with the amount of attention that this has gotten. I am too, but not at the cost of deterring potential players away from a good Vanilla server or the time away from my time working today, or from interacting with other players. Pick out more things I've said and address them one by one. It's not hurting me any and your analyses have been amusing to read so far.

    D) There are 4 admins, who have always used the same names. Tex, Mooj, Captain Asshat and Ubernaga. We are very active and like giving people a fun place to play.

    E) Several of you have tried to insinuate implications from our statements. That's expected from trolls and unless I implicitly say something, please take my words how they read. Nothing you've said is novel or unexpected. It's the same mad troll script that plays out whenever one of you disrespecting morons wants to get off by gaining attention for yourself by being rude or disruptive. In this case it's also slander and bullshit that they would probably in-game next follow by "Oh the wonderful taste of your tears." To me their behavior has been akin to walking into someone's house, complaining about the temperature set on the thermostat, spitting on the floor and starting to scream insults out in the yard in view of all of the neighbors because of a refusal to accept the realities at hand.

    Since you guys want to take this off topic to airdrops and the like I'll let you continue to have the floor because this wasn't and isn't a debate. I won't be responding to anything not relevant as I see it. Anyone that wants to avoid hate speech, trolling in chat and cheating is welcome. If you have any questions or concerns please use the link the banned player provided above to add me as a friend on Steam (Arride / Tex). I do get Steam messages on my phone .

    ... And nothing else matters.
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  6. Post #46

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    While looking for a new server to play I did see this server in the list, and after reading this mountain of text it seems I dodged a bullet by not clicking connect.
    You really did.

    I don't make money by people not playing the server, and I'm not suggesting everyone will have the same experience as me tbh, I just can't let my story go untold because of the slight inconvenience. I'm the type of person who also thoroughly reviews items on Amazon so others can eliminate the guessing game, so it's in my nature. I had no idea how many others would come out of the woodwork telling a similar sorry. I do feel better to not be alone.

    By all means, try the server if none of this strikes you viewers as strange.

    I will say this. The repeating of "ABOOS" is a tactic people who are defensive tend to use. Misspelling and all caps make it seem ridiculous or somehow have an air of unintelligence, but that will get you nowhere here. You have no idea who I am; so I assure you your analysis of my IQ falls very short. In other words, nice try.

    The only people screaming "aboos" thus far have been you kids. Let's get back to the very real subject of "abuse". That, in which, you have admitted to numerous times in this thread. Pay attention.
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  7. Post #47

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    I definitely am not going to read this great wall of text, but I literally just created an account so I could put my .02 about this server.

    I was on this server before they switched their name, and for a good amount of time it was a good server and meet a lot of like minded individuals on this server. Everything was going good until one day a certain admin logged in( never meet/seen him before till then ).

    His name was Dr. Pecker and was absolutely an abusive admin. All of the sudden multiple airdrops were called, so me and a friend I had meet on a different server ran as fast as we could to the location of the drops. The airdrop that was by us had 3 drops, I headed to the first one and my friend to the second. All of the sudden he tells me that he was killed, so I run over to deal with the problem. When I get there I see this guy ( Dr. Pecker) looting the boxes but throwing all the stuff out unto the ground, confused and angry that he killed my friend I takes shots. He does as well, but I run and hide in a little hole that was near by, then poof he is right in my face....dead.

    I then proceed to call out the admin abuse, and then he started to reals things off like don't touch my drops etc etc. I was very annoyed so I repeated the admin abuse. Then he starts asking where I live, and seeing as I had just spawned at my camp, I quickly deserted my house cause I had a feeling of what was coming next. BOOM, spawn to me kill me, this time not spawning at my base, BOOM again, and again, and again and so on.

    Since obviously he was getting mad that I wasn't spawn at my house he left me alone along enough to spawn at another friends house and basically do the same thing to him, but not only taking items but destroying anything he didn't want.

    Another admin( Friend ) come on a little later as well as the server owner and I explained the situation to them. The owner literally told me that he started the server for that admin ( Dr. Pecker ) and that since he didn't know me, he would only do something if another report came out by him abusing admin powers.

    I didn't want to deal with an admin that had it out for me, and at anytime could log in and spawn to my base, so wants the point. I was so frustrated with this and the last server I was on ( nWo ) so I made my own server. Things have never been better.

    I go the extreme to make sure admin abuse doesn't happen by even denying people giving me stuff to research or hand outs at all. Every piece of wood, every gun, everything was collected by myself, the way every player should play, including admins.

    Thanks!
    You've got the wrong server in mind mate. Either that or you're posting in the wrong thread. Please edit or delete your post. This is a new server as of 1/31 and wiped 2/8. You're adding validity to the false statements being made by these morons.

    Best Regards,

    Tex

    Edited:
    In addition to two people posting about two servers that aren't ours and one guy advertising his server we get more fallacies of logic and total bullshit by the banned troll trolling to get off.
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  8. Post #48

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    I am "trolling to get off"? That's funny because your admins have all backed up their actions albeit with their own strange" not much better" twists to explain their thought process.

    There have been more people complaining of the same behavior, so honestly, you're the troll. Thinking having people on your admin team that use such aggressive tactic to kill players and laugh about it while coming to the forums and make themselves look foolish is what leads me to believe you can't be serious.

    They keep sayin things like "we don't allow racists, homophobes... Etc" which is the kind of desperate tactic I'm talking about. That suggests any one of us are those things. Nope, instead we're players of Rust who stumbled into your server, and because you have a solid population you think chasing a few off here and there won't hurt. As long as most of the people stay, right? Fair enough.

    But deal with this notoriety. Like I said, I got a few people to rethink subjecting themselves to your circus act, so I've already accomplished my goal.
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  9. Post #49

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    Why not just put the gun away? If its on slot 1 and out, press slot 1 again, and VUAHLA its not visible. Even intimidating someone with invis gear and gun( obviously God mode as well ) is just as much admin abuse as spawning items.
    Because it happens from time to time. I try to as much as possible, as do most admins. Sometimes, when you jump on something, you put your gun away after. Or take off your invisible armor after. Or you have some part of you visible so people have an object to interact with. When i'm invisible and talking to players I carry a rock or a torch at night. Whoopdeedoo.

    I was not there, and I am not on anyone's side. I came here to go over what happened to me on this server. I don't have proof of any of the things I claimed, but regardless it happened. I say this because you keep going on about screenshot this screenshot that. Sometimes when you are mad or annoyed, you are not thinking about taking a screenshot or fraps recording or w/e. Or you get killed so you instant hit respawn so you can chat.
    I want to be clear on this. I mean perfectly clear here.

    To you, it's abuse to have invisible gear on and teleport to a player maybe with something out. If you do that at all, it's abuse. Even if it slips your mind.

    On the other hand, Evesest, who has openly said he showed up to "bait us" (lol) and take screenshots, you say it slipped his mind.

    I mean, I want you to just say that. Just say, openly, that if it slips Ubernaga's mind to take off a piece of invisigear or put away a gun before teleporting to a player who's openly stated he's engaged the admins and who's own screenshot shows blatantly that I was talking to him and not getting an answer, it's abuse. But if Evesest's stated intention is to take screenshots, it's perfectly normal for him to completely forget what he came to the server for.

    Just say that, out loud. All of it. Don't leave out the part where you waffle over yourself making excuses for Evesest "not thinking of taking a screenshot" because he was "mad" when his stated intention was to come and "bait us" and "take screenshots".

    You have openly admitted you abuse admins powers
    Openly admitted, and yet you can't actually quote me on that. That's actually really weird, man. You'd figure if I openly admitted it, you might be able to point to where.
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  10. Post #50

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    How did it slip my mind to screenshot when I posted a screenshot?

    Once again, a poor attempt. The guilty have a habit of asking for MORE proof when confronted with proof. It's funny, because that post was more in jest to show how unprofessional your team really is. In reality, my true problem with the staff was with the initial story in the OP. Your admins have already done a great job of telling us their logic behind popping up with God mode and killing us, so that's far beyond debate. It's solid fact.

    Their explanation was that "oh we were out there with God mode to talk to someone and so they came up and we killed them. Go play somewhere else if you don't like it.". Funny thing is, that's not how it happened at all, but even if it had happened the way they said it, it's still clear abuse and sketchy, so I just let it fly.

    They made you look bad before you even dropped in. Keep them on a leash next time.
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  11. Post #51

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    I can't stop laughing. At least now your most recent statements reflect coherent thought, even though the cognitive dissonance and logical fallacies stand out in every statement you make that isn't an assumptive argument to paint what we've done or said in a poor light. At least that which isn't you trying to be clever by attempting to be both snide and persuasive but truly just coming off as inflammatory (trolling). Then again all that you've done is make your bullshit more readable rather than limiting yourself to the level of a juvenile shit-talking contest.

    Oh no I edited a post again. It must be more lies!
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  12. Post #52

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    I can't stop laughing. At least now your statements reflect coherent thought, even though the cognitive dissonance and logical fallacies stand out in every statement you make that isn't an assumptive argument to paint what we've done or said in a poor light. At least that which isn't you trying to be clever be both being snide and convincing but truly just coming off as inflammatory (trolling).
    Translation: *crickets*

    I literally don't even have anything to answer in this post, so I guess I'll take it at face value. Glad you threw in the towel.


    In other news, I've turned on my private messages. If anyone wants to send me their server ip, I'll gladly give it a shot. I don't ask for much, just don't kill me in god mode or walk around invisible shooting people. I know this can't be hard to find, so I look forward to your messages!
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  13. Post #53
    TheMrVader's Avatar
    February 2014
    46 Posts
    You've got the wrong server in mind mate. Either that or you're posting in the wrong thread. Please edit or delete your post. This is a new server as of 1/31 and wiped 2/8. You're adding validity to the false statements being made by these morons.

    Best Regards,

    Tex

    Edited:
    In addition to two people posting about two servers that aren't ours and one guy advertising his server we get more fallacies of logic and total bullshit by the banned troll trolling to get off.
    Definitely not the wrong server. So no post will be removed or edited.

    Because it happens from time to time. I try to as much as possible, as do most admins. Sometimes, when you jump on something, you put your gun away after. Or take off your invisible armor after. Or you have some part of you visible so people have an object to interact with. When i'm invisible and talking to players I carry a rock or a torch at night. Whoopdeedoo.



    I want to be clear on this. I mean perfectly clear here.

    To you, it's abuse to have invisible gear on and teleport to a player maybe with something out. If you do that at all, it's abuse. Even if it slips your mind.

    On the other hand, Evesest, who has openly said he showed up to "bait us" (lol) and take screenshots, you say it slipped his mind.

    I mean, I want you to just say that. Just say, openly, that if it slips Ubernaga's mind to take off a piece of invisigear or put away a gun before teleporting to a player who's openly stated he's engaged the admins and who's own screenshot shows blatantly that I was talking to him and not getting an answer, it's abuse. But if Evesest's stated intention is to take screenshots, it's perfectly normal for him to completely forget what he came to the server for.

    Just say that, out loud. All of it. Don't leave out the part where you waffle over yourself making excuses for Evesest "not thinking of taking a screenshot" because he was "mad" when his stated intention was to come and "bait us" and "take screenshots".



    Openly admitted, and yet you can't actually quote me on that. That's actually really weird, man. You'd figure if I openly admitted it, you might be able to point to where.
    Now, how abusive am I, casual readers and people who don't regularly suffocate themselves for kicks might ask? I spent all night building tiny gazebos by the side of the road:


    (In the lower left image, a special treat: A gazebo in the wild stalking its natural enemy - another gazebo!)

    I also gave our regulars their daily affirmation, a little something-something I use to remind my sunshines that they're beautiful people:


    Again, many arguments need to be weighed here.

    Like Evesest said, he's super-right because he totally is and he says so (and you know he's not the kind of player that would need to be removed with an attitude like that, everybody loves playing with a smug, disruptive, narcissistic know-it-all that thinks the Facepunch-granted admin tools are a "trick").

    So there's that.

    On the other hand, you really have to ask yourselves how much of a total douchebag you have to be to actually piss off an admin that dots the landscape with tiny, public-access gazebos and reminds his players that they're wonderful people. The answer is, the kind of douchebag that doesn't know how or why admins cloak themselves, calls it abuse, and then when the admins point out why they do it, claims they got "aired out".

    Again, players. I can't promise you I won't abuse. You will be forced to pass by my gazebos. You may even use them to cook chicken in. At some point, I will tell you I love you.

    All I can promise you is, I will do my level best to remove players like Evesest consistently and in a timely manner. God help us all.
    That a pretty good admission to me.
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  14. Post #54

    January 2014
    137 Posts
    To the OP.

    It's his server, he and the admins can do what they want, and as long as the owner doesn't disagree, they're free to. Admin tools are often abused. Though you're entilted to your opinion, and as this server is rather popular, it attracts new people and giving them a heads up on what to expect is a good thing. Although you can't change their server, or the way they act.

    To the server owner/admins. You seem like troll's, but I wasn't there when he got banned. But by his posting in this thread I get the feeling he isn't some idiot racist. Or a troll, actually he seems rather nic,e and you guys seem like pretty fail trolls. He doesn't need to have 'proof' for a opinion, and to share it. Whether it's true or false doesn't matter, because it's a opinion, not a fact. It seems like a lot of people share this opinion though. Although with high amount of players, you'll get more complainers then a normal server, but if you're really doing such things you're gonna kill your server and that only harms you, no one else.
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  15. Post #55

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    To the OP.

    It's his server, he and the admins can do what they want, and as long as the owner doesn't disagree, they're free to. Admin tools are often abused. Though you're entilted to your opinion, and as this server is rather popular, it attracts new people and giving them a heads up on what to expect is a good thing. Although you can't change their server, or the way they act.

    To the server owner/admins. You seem like troll's, but I wasn't there when he got banned. But by his posting in this thread I get the feeling he isn't some idiot racist. Or a troll, actually he seems rather nic,e and you guys seem like pretty fail trolls. He doesn't need to have 'proof' for a opinion, and to share it. Whether it's true or false doesn't matter, because it's a opinion, not a fact. It seems like a lot of people share this opinion though. Although with high amount of players, you'll get more complainers then a normal server, but if you're really doing such things you're gonna kill your server and that only harms you, no one else.
    Fair post. I agree with your sentiment, and I even said in OP I don't expect anything to be done about it. I just wanted to share my story and maybe others who are like me won't waste time there with behavior like that from the admins. I don't sweat actually scoring them a few players, as I respect the player's opinion. If he reads this and decides it's worth joining, I completely understand.

    This is aimed at likewise minds. Take it at face value, and any readers of this thread are welcome to judge me based on what I have said about this server. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to an opinion.
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  16. Post #56

    January 2014
    48 Posts
    Hi, I'm the owner and admin of this server.

    So we pop in to help a player with a suspected cheater and this guy comes up and starts shooting at all three of us (the admin). I guess he was new to the server. I was too busy with chat and the issue to bother with him. After about 4 minutes of him following us around (we were wearing partial Invisible Armor) and him firing point blank in our faces I killed him and said in chat that I was the admin of the server and if he didn't like it he could leave.

    We've been banning people for hate speech and banning people for trolling and honestly I don't have time to introduce myself to every single player that pops in the server. We weren't attacking anyone, we were having a private conversation with a player (not on steam chat, in game) and he didn't take the hint to leave. He kept firing the P250 at us and bitching about our using God Mode -- though he and others can clearly see (thank you for the screenshot) that we were using invisible armor. I'm guessing this was BESSS, who had also been trolling chat and shortly after this incident talked more shit and was kicked from the server, and probably banned.

    The other guy didn't kill a friend, he was reported as being a suspected cheater through a PM on steam. We checked him out and didn't like his attitude. I will not respect people with an attitude problem and if they want to get uppity or smart about our rules then they can and probably will leave one way or another. If they don't and can't take the hint, then continue to be disruptive then yes, we'll gladly teleport you to POS 1 10000 1 and let you whine while you drop, then ban and kick you. We do it to all the cheaters, trolls, homophobes and racists on our server. For the homophobes and racists we don't give them a second chance. That's an insta-ban.

    However, if an admin on our server tells you to shut up and you don't, you get what we give you. You don't have a say. You don't have the right to talk over us or back to us. We're doing our server a service by being there and I'm paying for it. I don't solicit donations. If I wanted to see your all caps rant on a server, I'd join yours.

    I don't play on my server. I play on Central 3. And yes, I do ban instantly for "Admin Abuse" complaints that I find to be unjusitified. If you can't take that we turn it day to test a mechanic with explosive charges breaking down several walls instead of one at once or to teleport a willing person underwater to see if it's the same instant death as if you fall in, I'm sorry that five or ten minutes of your time during that period (it being day instead of night no less) made you so pissed off that you decided to flip out, troll and get banned. You were one of two that complained and the only one that started typing "ADMIN ABUSE" in all caps and ranting for attention. You thought we'd let you stay after that?

    That's not our problem. There are plenty of servers out there and usually we have more people on than the Official Servers do. We have many players that have been with us since Day 1. We try to be fair, but that also means that we don't give a damn what Random Player A thinks about what we're doing at any given point in time.

    I love telling people to "Pay Attention" because every time I'm logged in I repeat the rules, as do the other admins. And if you miss them and start screaming homophobic slurs or racial slurs -- or more commonly typing them in all caps in global chat then you can indeed come here and whine in threads like this one, pretending that you've been victimized. The player in question was disrespectful to an admin and then proceeded to follow us around continuing his behavior, when warned by myself and two others.

    Yes, we admins love to use Invisible Armor to stalk players. It ups our skill level for when playing on Official Servers or other Community Servers and if we stay out of range, oftentimes the cheaters and players with sociopathic tendencies using racial epithets to get their point across in VOIP don't even know we're there when we catch them speedhacking, superjumping or the other ridiculous things that people do.

    That said, I remember your names and you'll stay banned by Steam ID like you are now. You are not welcome there.

    To those reading this other than these banned players, yes we sometimes put up a tower for a sniping contest or make an arena for an event. Sometimes player complain about that as admin abuse as well. Every once in awhile I'll pop on and raid with one of the admins who plays on the server with his clan but we don't abuse admin rights and generally are very squeamish about using the inv.giveplayer and inv.giveall commands. However, if I'm drunk or stoned, or there are a ton of people on I might just fire a few airdrops into a radtown just to watch what happens and fraps it. It's all in good fun, as well as for the good. If you believe that's admin abuse, then in the opinion of most of the people who play on our server and stay you're both dead wrong and don't belong on our server.

    "Noob Friendly" means we try to be helpful in answering questions and providing an environment that's not hostile toward our playerbase. It doesn't mean free stuff, teleports for players or that no one will kill you. Welcome to Rust.
    I just had to deal with two children like this on my server, so I feel your pain. They act like A-holes, cheat, greif and get kicked. then they want to bad mouth the site to get even. Keep doing what your doing, and eventually good people will find your sight. Can you post there names so I can ban them from my site too?
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  17. Post #57

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    I just had to deal with two children like this on my server, so I feel your pain. They act like A-holes, cheat, greif and get kicked. then they want to bad mouth the site to get even. Keep doing what your doing, and eventually good people will find your sight. Can you post there names so I can ban them from my site too?
    I'll save you the trouble. Tell me the server name and it'll save me time to not even connect to it. If you agree with the behavior from the admins in OP then it is I who don't want to play on your server. You'd actually love me to join tbh.
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  18. Post #58

    January 2014
    48 Posts
    I'll save you the trouble. Tell me the server name and it'll save me time to not even connect to it. If you agree with the behavior from the admins in OP then it is I who don't want to play on your server. You'd actually love me to join tbh.
    no I think I will spare my players from your abusive behavior ............................
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  19. Post #59

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    Definitely not the wrong server. So no post will be removed or edited.
    Wow. So you're blaming me for your shitty experience on another server. Okay, I guess you are indeed trolling like those two idiots. Have fun with that. May I have your steam ID please to ban you from my server?
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  20. Post #60

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    I find it exceptionally amusing how you toss "sociopath" around because you have no real argument to form in terms of defending yourself or the rest of the staff.

    Armchair psychiatrists are comical indeed.
    Armchair psychiatrists are comical indeed, which is why psychologists such as myself frequently laugh at them. With that in mind, I'm going to post as psychologists, to others interested in the field of mental health.

    I must have missed that bit, and cannot seem to find any instances of psychotic rage directed at myself within this thread.
    Classic evasion tactic. "Tex posting psychotic rage directed at him," the pronoun him clearly refers to Tex. The psychotic rage is from this screenshot. You'll notice that EXILE displays evasion indicative of some sort of psychopathy.

    By pretending he didn't understand the ambiguous statement (which is obvious in the context of calling EXILE a hypocrite), he's able to avoid addressing why he didn't bat an eye at the above screenshot and yet hypocritical called a single throwaway line a juvenile attempt at humor.

    Again, strong indicator of mental illness. This particular behavior is known as narcissistic injury. When a person with NPD or narcissistic traits becomes frustrated or feels cornered, it causes a deep injury to their ego. EXILE cannot consistently explain why he pees his panties over one "juvenile" statement but comes down on Tex for addressing seven total juvenile statements. It's basic denial, and one will note that it's listed under the pathological defence mechanisms for a reason.

    Mooj posted: Doesn't seem to mind the "grade-school, prepubescent insults" of Evesest throwing out "dorks" in the OP (because people over twelve totally say that!)

    An ignorant, blanket generalization formed entirely with the sole intent to shift attention onto the OP and off of him and his administrator pals. Classic.
    Again, this is classic onus-shifting, again because of narcissistic injury. The narcissist, in this case EXILE, has difficulty coping with accusations of hypocrisy. The purpose of my statement was to highlight EXILE's own behavior, not Evesest. A normal, well adjusted human being understands this.

    However, because he has difficulty explaining away his inconsistent behavior (reacting favorably towards one instance of juvenile insult and disfavorably towards another), EXILE attempts to shift the claim away from its original purpose (highlighting his inconsistent behavior) to something else. Highly inconsistent behavior such as this is indicative of personality disorders, especially (Axis II) Cluster A and (Axis II) Cluster B disorders, the Odd and Dramatic personality disorders.

    Multiple individuals have provided statements that form a pattern of doubt, leading to the burden of proof now being on you. I suggest you spend more time educating yourself and less time building gazebo's on the side of the road.
    A total of three of those individuals were removed from the server in the same group. Unsurprising that all three would contact each other on Steam at the same time, if they weren't already friends. It happens that friends join the server en masse and when one of them fucks up the other three freak out.

    These same individuals have also posted highly inconsistent statements, including Evesest's changing his story multiple times. There is no reason for an individual to treat their claim as credible. It's apparent to the mentally sane (as in, those who unlike you don't display narcissistic traits, if not outright NPD) to understand that when "multiple individuals" are forced to alter their story, they are not in any way believable.

    Meanwhile, because you apparently suck at statistics as much as you suck at philosophy, rhetoric, and psychology, your total amount of "multiple individuals" still sits at slightly less than 1% of our total player base.

    In case you can't tell how toweringly stupid you are, a 1% dissatisfaction rate is phenomenal.


    Someone without prior knowledge might make the assumption that it was simply a toggle or what have you, and not a set of gear that you equip (which, frankly, is an absurd implementation to begin with).
    And so what? Your moronic claim is now that servers are rife with admin abuse because somebody doesn't understand how admin tools work? Him not understanding that he's wrong does not mean he's magically right, you total and complete moron.

    He explained that quite clearly above, I suggest you pay attention.
    Really? He explained how his story went from him being killed to him being killed and kicked? Nope, he just added the kicked part when it wasn't in his OP. And curiously only added after it just so happened to turn out that admins are granted the ability to go invisible. Why, once he found out that admins can turn invisible and it's not, in itself, abuse, then all of a sudden -- as if by magic -- Ubernaga did something that was abusive, that he just totally forgot to mention.

    Also he has never once explained why he didn't simply press Print Screen a second time. It's not that hard. Press Print screen, past your screenshot. You get kicked, press Print Screen again. Oh, that's right, him getting kicked only magically appeared after it turned out invis armor isn't ABOOS!

    Only he doesn't, and has other people backing up his initial statements with accounts of their own that are quite similar to his own experiences. The only people here that are saying you are not doing anything wrong are yourself and the other administrator who chimed in above.

    How convenient.
    Yes, two of them kicked (and not banned) from the server at the same time as him for being disruptive. Also, amusingly enough, you discount andypopz.

    The other reason you aren't going to see people posting is that, unsurprisingly, the only types of people who want their narcissistic grandiosity validity are the types to post complaints. I know you're slightly dim, but do you seriously believe that it's credible to claim that people who are actively playing and enjoying the server will, for no reason whatsoever, come over here during their place session to chime in in defense? That's moronic, even for you.

    Also less than 1% dissatisfaction, forgetting that part. Well, not forgetting... avoiding.

    You have the gall to make a comment about the OPs age above (yet another underhanded jab), while you yourself are likely not even out of your teens as evidenced by your repeated use of such terms.
    Again notice the inconsistency indicative of a deep-seated psychopathology in EXILE. Notice the statement "you have the gall to make a comment about the OPs age above" as if this is some sort of high indicator of anti-social behavior.

    But also compare and contrast EXILE's earlier statement:

    More grade-school, prepubescent insults.
    In other words, in EXILE's mind, it's perfectly acceptable to make comments about age. Replying to that comment about age, however, is "gall". Again, the important thing to note is that the context is EXILE's own. Nobody began discussing age until both Evesest and EXILE made statements about it.

    The belief that an individual alone is fit to decide what is and is not acceptable behavior, and (more importantly), to do so inconsistently -- that is, it is acceptable for them to do so, but for you to do so even in reply to their own argument is unacceptable -- is highly indicative of an abusive personality type. Again, precisely the type of player we actively seek to ban. We aren't interested in playing host to spousal abusers, elder abusers, child abusers, or any other form of person who thinks "I CAN TAKE A SWING AT YOU, HOW DARE YOU SWING BACK?" who can sit behind a keyboard.

    They are irrelevant. You certainly wouldn't post screenshots of yourself porting in and killing a player while you had god mode on, would you? Which is the subject of discussion here.
    On of the subject of deep-seated psychopathology, this is by far the most interesting statement to dissect. David Von Drehle wrote a book called Among the Lowest of the Dead about inmates on Death Row. Among his interviewees was Ted Bundy, who stated that he couldn't understand why people would miss individuals. Because this valuation of human life was meaningless to Bundy, he perceived his victims as being meaningless and without value to all people.

    It's happening here with EXILE as well. Because, like Evesest, he's highly narcissistic and has a deep-rooted desire to feel power over others (as well as a deep-seated desire for revenge and control), he doesn't understand that those he wants to feel power and control over do not feel the same. Its meaningless, the aspects of his personality are projected onto all people.

    To a normal, mentally healthy, well-adjusted individual, they would look at my gazebo-building as something a power-tripping admin wouldn't do. Power trippers do not build tiny structures, they build large structures that reflect their internal grandiosity. Power trippers do not spend their time building gazebos, they spend their time abusing others. Etc., etc. Not only is the fact that he can't recognize this as such extremely telling (what person who wants to feel a deep-rooted desire for control over others spends their time building tiny structures for public use when they could be griefing a large player base?), but the fact that it is utterly meaningless to him is even more telling.

    Though it's an unsurprisingly result. At a playerbase in excess of one million, the amount of maladaptive personalities will be in tens of thousands. EXILE is one of them.

    Anyone with admin on a server could produce screenshots like that in a matter of minutes, easily. I'm very familiar with the tools and functions available to owners/admins through both RCON and all of the available modding APIs.
    And yet you failed to recognize the most important aspect behind it; the psychology, and the total lack of understanding and empathy it demonstrates in you.

    You really think that somehow, in your twisted mind, this thread is painting your server in a positive light? Wow.
    It most definitely does. Because your understanding of psychology is as much a joke as everything else that waddles through your head, let me tell you what I'm deliberately exploiting: In-group favoritism.

    We have two diametrically opposed in-groups, each an out-group to the other.

    You have people like you and Evesest, who feel a deep-seated need for control and revenge. Instinctively, you hate active admins, you hate being challenged, you have no actual authority yet desperately wish you did, and when a person like you looks at a post like Evesest's, you can't help but see yourself in him (as do others), instinctively becoming defensive of your own maladaptive behavior. That's your in-group, and my out-group. You are exactly the types of people I seek to alienate from the server.

    On the other hand, you have people like me, who want players who understand that Rust is a game, who want players to take risks for the thrill and the fun, who enjoy having an active admin. They see Evesest making obvious fuck-ups and lies like changing his story, and you defending him doing it as if it was reasonable in your mind. They see the inconsistency in your behavior. They realize exactly the type of entitled cunts you and Evesest are. They know exactly the kind of person who gets banned from a server and then becomes determined to "take revenge". This is my in-group, and the exact types of players I seek to attract to the server.

    Exploiting this in-group favoritism is extremely favorable for my server. If you were half as smart as your narcissism tells you you are, you'd recognize not only what I'm doing, but how and why I'm doing it as well.

    Mooj posted: We don't want racists. We don't want homophobes. We don't want cheaters. We don't want ragers.

    Hate is completely acceptable though, as referenced above. The level of hypocrisy from you and the other administrator is astounding, to say the least.
    This is another interesting one, like Among the Lowest of the Dead referenced above. The astute reader will by now have noticed a pattern to EXILE's behavior. This is, again, deeply indicative of a psychopathology.

    First, for those of you not aware, this is a classic example of a distortion campaign. Distortion campaigns are highly maladaptive traits, only the most off-the-rails, unhinged, physically, emotionally, or psychologically violent individuals engage in them.

    One of the primary methods of an attempt at a distortion campaign is what's known most commonly and most simply as twisting words. For example, the above statement. Notice how EXILE's has attempted to present my statement as if I were saying hate on my part, directed at others was acceptable.

    A normal, mentally-healthy, well-adjusted individual would understand my statement for what it is: That because highly mentally disturbed individuals like EXILE and Evesest despise me, I consider this a form of flattery. Why would I want Evesest, with his psychotic need to feel revenge for his narcissistic injury, to feel anything in kinship with me? Why would I want EXILE, with his textbook abusive personality, to feel anything in kinship with me? Again, a normal, mature, well-adapted individual understands that these people are undesirable, and best removed from one's life.

    As a bonus little chocolate sprinkle on the cake of whatever is wrong with EXILE's noodle, we have his ostensible hatred of hypocrisy. Never mind that I displayed no actual hypocrisy and he's simply lying (because that's what maladaptive personalities do). We'll put that aside for now. But notice how that same ostensible nose-turned sniffling about hypocrisy comes on the heels of his own contradictory behavior, such as being outraged at my "gall" for making an age related comment in reply to an age-related comment he actually ignored?

    Now, many of you might not have a degree in a field of mental health, but this is genuinely interesting stuff, of what goes wrong with a person's little inner voice and how that voice convinces itself it's still in the right.

    I've personally never played on your server, but after reading this thread I wouldn't even consider it.
    This is EXILE's narcissism talking. You'll notice he actually believes he's so special that I should be offended or feel some other form of deprivation for him not playing on my server. He actually believes that we pay for the server for the glory of feeling graced by his presence, and that we're somehow losing out.

    Try to imagine this situation playing out in real life:

    "FUCK YOU, BUDDY."
    "Nah, fuck you."
    "WHAT DID YOU SAY TO ME? WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE THAT I WON'T COME TO YOUR PARTY."

    Pretty funny, right? He actually believes he's leveled some sort of threat here, that he's the center of attention and we're losing out by not having him. But what's interesting here isn't the narcissism in particular, which we've already seen a plentiful pattern of. What's more interesting is that, even though I've point blank told him I'm using him to alienate other players like him to proactively keep my server clean, his narcissistic tendencies are so overwhelmingly strong that he's still forced to reply with his hilariously empty threat.

    Wow, that was long. But, in its own way, fun.

    Don't worry, EXILE. We have no problem populating the server with people who laugh at you and Evesest.

    Edited:

    Mooj posted: Again, players. I can't promise you I won't abuse. You will be forced to pass by my gazebos. You may even use them to cook chicken in. At some point, I will tell you I love you.

    That a pretty good admission to me.
    Ladies and gentlemen, the kind of player who is unwelcome on our server: The kind who thinks that walking past a gazebo the admin built, possibly using it to cook chicken, and having the admin tell you they love you is "abuse of power".

    If you got the joke - "I BUILD GAZEBOS, CLEARLY ABUSE!" - congratulations, you aren't a tit.
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  21. Post #61
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    February 2014
    46 Posts
    Wow. So you're blaming me for your shitty experience on another server. Okay, I guess you are indeed trolling like those two idiots. Have fun with that. May I have your steam ID please to ban you from my server?
    Seeing as I am friends with one of you admins on Steam, definitely not trolling. But say whatever makes you feel better. And for you to deny my story when you know damn well you talked to me, I have no words.
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  22. Post #62
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    December 2013
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    I have no dog in this fight but I've been reading through the thread and trying to remain unbiased...
    Quite honestly, to the server admins: stop trying to defend your actions. No matter what you do there will always be people who disagree with your policies. I had no problem banning players that were assholes when I had a server and quite a few of them took to the forums to flame me and my server as well... there's just no way around it. My real advice is to ignore this thread, let it die and fall by the wayside, every time you post in the thread more and more people see it and choose to not join your server.
    To the players complaining: You did what you came here to do, which is to stop people from joining this server because of reason A and evidence B and blah blah blah. Why waste time flaming people on the forum when you could be playing the game that we all love so much and start rebuilding on another server?
    I don't know who is in the right here since there's no solid evidence one way or another and both sides have people playing the asshole. I tend to lean in favor of the server admins since I've dealt with a similar situation myself but you lose some of that good reputation when you feed the flames with short-story length posts about this person being a narcissist and that person trolling and those people being assholes...
    Anyways, just my two cents, I'm fully prepared for a slew of dumb ratings. :)
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  23. Post #63

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    To the server owner/admins. You seem like troll's, but I wasn't there when he got banned. But by his posting in this thread I get the feeling he isn't some idiot racist. Or a troll, actually he seems rather nic,e and you guys seem like pretty fail trolls. He doesn't need to have 'proof' for a opinion, and to share it. Whether it's true or false doesn't matter, because it's a opinion, not a fact. It seems like a lot of people share this opinion though. Although with high amount of players, you'll get more complainers then a normal server, but if you're really doing such things you're gonna kill your server and that only harms you, no one else.
    He's not an idiot racist, as I said (or a homophobe or a cheater). He might be those things, but I never personally witnessed it.

    What he did do was disrupt the server and attempt to troll the server. You'll notice his own screenshot shows him doing this.

    Ask yourself what kind of person makes a statement about "admin abuse" on the server, directed at the admins, as he states he did in his second post, then refuses to answer an admin asking him what he's talking about - you can see him ignoring me in his screenshot - then takes a screenshot of another admin TP'ing over to him and goes LOOK GUYS I GOT IRONCLAD PROOF I ADDRESSED AN ADMIN AND THEN IGNORED HIM AND THEN ONE TELEPORTED TO ME! ABUSE! DON'T PLAY ON THIS SERVER!

    Let's get down to brass tacks, that ain't normal behavior.

    Every admin and good player knows people like that are disruptive as hell. They're tantrum throwing, grandiose, entitled children. They get away with murder on servers that aren't actively administrated, driving away dozens of other players with their rage fits and tantrums. When a server turns out to be actively administrated, they flip the fuck out.

    The bottom line is, we want to provide a good experience for our player base. Evesest is not the norm, he is the exception to that player base.

    Having had discussions with a lot of our players, many are college educated, many are careered, and many are married. Many play with their wives. We have lawyers, (other) psychologists, marketing professionals, and IT professionals.

    We also have many younger players that, at 33, I would feel utterly responsible for if I were to expose them to a player like Evesest or EXILE.

    What we do not do is shell out money every month to run a charity daycare for people like Evesest and EXILE. We want players to know that our overarching rule is that people like them simply aren't welcome, whether that manifests in some form of discriminatory speech, exploitation or cheating, or just constant raging (which is the class Evesest falls under).

    We want our players to have fun, to compete, to cooperate, and to play the game for all its weird alpha-stage goodness. Some players are, unfortunately, a cancer to that. The upside to this post (beyond the fact that its pretty side-splittingly funny watching Evesest try to drop Raw is War-era ringside faux tough-talk) is that we've had the chance to show other players exactly what kinds of people hate us, and how that reflects on us, which is a boon.
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  24. Post #64

    January 2014
    135 Posts
    Man... I really wish I had the last 30 minutes of my life back after reading all this shit. This is a stupid-ass pissing contest. All of you need to shut the fuck up and move on with your lives. Christ, almighty.
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  25. Post #65

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    Man... I really wish I had the last 30 minutes of my life back after reading all this shit. This is a stupid-ass pissing contest. All of you need to shut the fuck up and move on with your lives. Christ, almighty.
    Fair response tbh. Trust me, I work nights so I'm waking up in order to respond at all. I'm just not fond of self righteous people who put themselves into a position of power and get a false sense of importance. A normal self respecting admin could've maturely responded and given a positive look on their server. Instead about 3-4 different immature kids with inflated egos came in making the same childish exclamations of "aboos" "idiot" etc. I'd be lying if I say it's not frustrating after hearing their real voices through Rust. Makes it harder to let it go when you know exactly what kind of person you're dealing with. (more personal)

    That being said, I feel this was a necessary evil to inform people of the behavior. Whether they agree or not is their opinion and still proves valuable. There are many threads on the same subject. I did not post this without thinking it out. Only difference is those threads don't have the actual admins jumping in insulting people. I guess its actually pretty revealing in itself just by their activity in this thread alone and it really does line up with the many stories told in this thread.

    Thanks for reading.
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  26. Post #66

    January 2014
    135 Posts
    Fair response tbh. Trust me, I work nights so I'm waking up in order to respond at all. I'm just not fond of self righteous people who put themselves into a position of power and get a false sense of importance. A normal self respecting admin could've maturely responded and given a positive look on their server. Instead about 3-4 different immature kids with inflated egos came in making the same childish exclamations of "aboos" "idiot" etc. I'd be lying if I say it's not frustrating after hearing their real voices through Rust. Makes it harder to let it go when you know exactly what kind of person you're dealing with. (more personal)

    That being said, I feel this was a necessary evil to inform people of the behavior. Whether they agree or not is their opinion and still proves valuable. There are many threads on the same subject. I did not post this without thinking it out. Only difference is those threads don't have the actual admins jumping in insulting people. I guess its actually pretty revealing in itself just by their activity in this thread alone and it really does line up with the many stories told in this thread.

    Thanks for reading.
    It's revealing on both sides. Let it go and move to another server for cryin out loud. The fact that this much energy and thought was expended on something as inconsequential as a goddamn video game makes zero sense to me. If they want to be assholes, let them be. Rise above it and move on. I run a server and I don't address garbage or nonsense. I treat my business the exact same way. Negativity and bullshit don't concern me. It doesn't exist to me. And as a result, I'm a happier person.

    You've made the decision to move on. So move on. Don't bother trashing anyone because all that will happen is this. A pissing contest. Nobody wins. Both parties lose because it becomes a text version of Jerry Springer.
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  27. Post #67

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    Seeing as I am friends with one of you admins on Steam, definitely not trolling. But say whatever makes you feel better. And for you to deny my story when you know damn well you talked to me, I have no words.
    No one knows you as near as we can tell. Beyond that most of us have people on our friends list who don't know much about us. I do remember banning someone three days ago with a similar name to yours but that person doesn't know, and isn't friended by any of us. I'm going to call bullshit on that statement too. You're yet another banned moron just trolling away in rage I suppose.
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