1. Post #1

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    We were playing on the RUST IN PEACE server and were setting up all day collecting resources etc. After a bit of PVP the admins teleported to us with some sort of invincibility enabled and started killing us with hatchets.

    When confronted about it, the admin "Tex" responded "shut up, I'm an admin, I can do what I want. Pay attention."


    I realize nothing can or will be done about this behavior, but I have trouble leaving it unsaid. Please do not play on this server, and if Facepunch DOES do anything about stuff like this it would be great. Unsure on the policy, though.


    This is a highly condensed story, I'm sure one of the other witnesses will post here to vouch.

    SERVER IP: 208.115.199.82:28045

    (User was banned for this post ("missed the servers subforum" - postal))
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  2. Post #2

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    This is accurate. I was playing on rust in peace for quite awhile, it was really a fun server. Then all of a sudden the admins started switching the daylight to pitch black for some reason (and then back and forth) for their own amusement but I didn't think much of it. I had been set up near the north valley and was having a lot of fun fighting with the other people in the area. Then I guess I killed one of the admin's friends and suddenly 2 people teleported to me with invincibility (Tex and A Faceless Man, who was partially invisible). Moments later another 4 people showed up. They proceeded to kill my friend and I while they were in god-mode (unable to be damaged) and then kicked us both from the server. I asked them why and Tex told me "I'm an admin idiot, pay attention. You must be new here." I told him I was new to the server, and he told me to go play somewhere else. That's when I got kicked. Really a shame because I was starting to have a lot of fun until the admins ruined it for their own pleasure.
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  3. Post #3

    January 2014
    3 Posts
    Join me then, started a new one tonight your welcome to join, I am the ADMIN and will not abuse it.

    US CENTRAL/PvP/Sleep/Airdrops/ActiveADMIN/Vanilla
    192.187.112.170:28065
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  4. Post #4
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    CN.Kane's Avatar
    February 2014
    213 Posts
    He indeed likes the "Pay attention" thing, had same issues with him. Im not playing there anymore.
    Admins should play fair on their server, without godmode and give commands.

    I am running 2 Rust server myself, but I actively play on another one. So that I never ever abuse any rights. In what case so ever.

    I've been on alot of servers. Almost all Admins abuse, even if only a stack of wood. Its cheating.
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  5. Post #5

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    Matter fact, I completely baited the dorks into repeating their abuse. I went in the chat talking about how they were reported on the forums and one of their admins popped up doing the same invisibility trick "frescoclean" mentioned. Check out the solid proof I just snapped




    He killed me right after this.
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  6. Post #6

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    yes ubernaga was also one of the guys harassing me , kind of sad honestly
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  7. Post #7

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/ubernaga/
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/Arride

    Here are the admins in case you guys are curious what kind of people we're dealing with. SMH so disappointed.
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  8. Post #8
    IGotWorms's Avatar
    September 2013
    676 Posts
    There are numerous community servers where the admins aren't complete douches, don't dole out special favors and unfair advantages to their friends and don't teleport around the map raiding/killing people in godmode and then act like children. This...apparently isn't one of them...but there are good ones out there.
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  9. Post #9

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    There are numerous community servers where the admins aren't complete douches, don't dole out special favors and unfair advantages to their friends and don't teleport around the map raiding/killing people in godmode and then act like children. This...apparently isn't one of them...but there are good ones out there.
    Yeah I've played a few legitimate servers, this is definitely not one of them. Glad they're getting aired out and numerous witnesses showed up in this thread, though. Clowns.

    Anyone know any good servers with non-abusive admins?
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  10. Post #10

    February 2014
    37 Posts
    Hi, I'm the owner and admin of this server.

    So we pop in to help a player with a suspected cheater and this guy comes up and starts shooting at all three of us (the admin). I guess he was new to the server. I was too busy with chat and the issue to bother with him. After about 4 minutes of him following us around (we were wearing partial Invisible Armor) and him firing point blank in our faces I killed him and said in chat that I was the admin of the server and if he didn't like it he could leave.

    We've been banning people for hate speech and banning people for trolling and honestly I don't have time to introduce myself to every single player that pops in the server. We weren't attacking anyone, we were having a private conversation with a player (not on steam chat, in game) and he didn't take the hint to leave. He kept firing the P250 at us and bitching about our using God Mode -- though he and others can clearly see (thank you for the screenshot) that we were using invisible armor. I'm guessing this was BESSS, who had also been trolling chat and shortly after this incident talked more shit and was kicked from the server, and probably banned.

    The other guy didn't kill a friend, he was reported as being a suspected cheater through a PM on steam. We checked him out and didn't like his attitude. I will not respect people with an attitude problem and if they want to get uppity or smart about our rules then they can and probably will leave one way or another. If they don't and can't take the hint, then continue to be disruptive then yes, we'll gladly teleport you to POS 1 10000 1 and let you whine while you drop, then ban and kick you. We do it to all the cheaters, trolls, homophobes and racists on our server. For the homophobes and racists we don't give them a second chance. That's an insta-ban.

    However, if an admin on our server tells you to shut up and you don't, you get what we give you. You don't have a say. You don't have the right to talk over us or back to us. We're doing our server a service by being there and I'm paying for it. I don't solicit donations. If I wanted to see your all caps rant on a server, I'd join yours.

    I don't play on my server. I play on Central 3. And yes, I do ban instantly for "Admin Abuse" complaints that I find to be unjusitified. If you can't take that we turn it day to test a mechanic with explosive charges breaking down several walls instead of one at once or to teleport a willing person underwater to see if it's the same instant death as if you fall in, I'm sorry that five or ten minutes of your time during that period (it being day instead of night no less) made you so pissed off that you decided to flip out, troll and get banned. You were one of two that complained and the only one that started typing "ADMIN ABUSE" in all caps and ranting for attention. You thought we'd let you stay after that?

    That's not our problem. There are plenty of servers out there and usually we have more people on than the Official Servers do. We have many players that have been with us since Day 1. We try to be fair, but that also means that we don't give a damn what Random Player A thinks about what we're doing at any given point in time.

    I love telling people to "Pay Attention" because every time I'm logged in I repeat the rules, as do the other admins. And if you miss them and start screaming homophobic slurs or racial slurs -- or more commonly typing them in all caps in global chat then you can indeed come here and whine in threads like this one, pretending that you've been victimized. The player in question was disrespectful to an admin and then proceeded to follow us around continuing his behavior, when warned by myself and two others.

    Yes, we admins love to use Invisible Armor to stalk players. It ups our skill level for when playing on Official Servers or other Community Servers and if we stay out of range, oftentimes the cheaters and players with sociopathic tendencies using racial epithets to get their point across in VOIP don't even know we're there when we catch them speedhacking, superjumping or the other ridiculous things that people do.

    That said, I remember your names and you'll stay banned by Steam ID like you are now. You are not welcome there.

    To those reading this other than these banned players, yes we sometimes put up a tower for a sniping contest or make an arena for an event. Sometimes player complain about that as admin abuse as well. Every once in awhile I'll pop on and raid with one of the admins who plays on the server with his clan but we don't abuse admin rights and generally are very squeamish about using the inv.giveplayer and inv.giveall commands. However, if I'm drunk or stoned, or there are a ton of people on I might just fire a few airdrops into a radtown just to watch what happens and fraps it. It's all in good fun, as well as for the good. If you believe that's admin abuse, then in the opinion of most of the people who play on our server and stay you're both dead wrong and don't belong on our server.

    "Noob Friendly" means we try to be helpful in answering questions and providing an environment that's not hostile toward our playerbase. It doesn't mean free stuff, teleports for players or that no one will kill you. Welcome to Rust.
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  11. Post #11

    October 2013
    91 Posts
    Still seems really sketchy, why not just teleport away when the guy started shooting you? Seems a bit like you don't know how to handle your powers. I know i'd leave this server if I was playing on it when this happened. Just IMHO.
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  12. Post #12

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    Nobody was being racist or homophobic, and no I am not bess. You guys all teleported in, made yourselves invincible and then started killing us while laughing about it. Then when I told you I was new to the server and didn't understand what was going on you called me an idiot, told me to go play somewhere else and then kicked me. I was not hateful or ignorant, I was genuinely confused as to what was happening because I had never seen that before. I played rust before it was on steam and I haven't played in awhile. This was the first server I had jumped back into and I was only there for an hour or two and immediately saw this kind of abuse. I didn't cry abuse in chat, I was talking to you specifically asking what was going on and you called me an idiot and told me to leave.

    The server is run by a bunch of jackasses, case closed.
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  13. Post #13

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    Yes, we admins love to use Invisible Armor to stalk players. It ups our skill level for when playing on Official Servers or other Community Servers and if we stay out of range, oftentimes the cheaters and players with sociopathic tendencies using racial epithets to get their point across in VOIP don't even know we're there when we catch them speedhacking, superjumping or the other ridiculous things that people do.
    This boy just said using invisible armor ups their skill level in official servers LMFAO

    Okay, now this is just embarrassing for you, dude.. You could've at least claimed we were all individually lying even though most of us don't even know eachother, instead you hit us with a long ass rant sounding self-righteous.

    Go ahead and return to your server, I'm not sweatin it. There's approx 300 more servers to check out for me, so I won't miss yours at all. The sad thing for you, is, you don't have admin to the forums so you can't stop this thread from existing and I'ma make a huge deal out of it.

    Pay attention. You just got aired out.
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  14. Post #14

    February 2014
    17 Posts
    I knew something was fishy when a Texan wasn't all for racism and homophobia!
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  15. Post #15

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    I knew something was fishy when a Texan wasn't all for racism and homophobia!
    Coming from a Texan, this cracked me up.

    Thanks for everyone being supportive and not standing for childish clowns running servers. It's a complete waste of time for those trying to find a stable environment to enjoy the game in its intended state.
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  16. Post #16

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    Oh my. So here's the actual, for real story.

    frescoclean's imagination is a little... excitable. We did not teleport to him (he admits he's a new player on the server and simultaneously thinks he's important enough to teleport to? Give me a break.) We teleported to a reported hacker to verify the report, because, as abusive admins, we believe it's highly important to verify every accusation with detailed observations and logs. If we find no evidence, we keep an eye out for patterns of behavior and otherwise take no action.

    A player (BESSS) was reported to us. Because we were all on at the time, we all teleported over there to observe him. frescoclean decided to attack us. We did nothing at first, other than tell him he couldn't kill us and he was welcome to waste his ammo. He proceeded to spam text chat with accusations of abuse because he happened to be in the area we TP'd to to observe and make a decision, decided to kill us, and threw a tantrum when the people he wanted to kill turned out to be doing admin'y things. At the point where it got to the regular claims of "ABOOS! ABOOS! I CAN'T KILL THE ADMINS AND I WANT TO!" while we're (again) trying to do our jobs, we removed him from the server. The text chat is not his to monopolize with his tantrums, it belongs collectively to the community. It also scrolls off things we have to pay attention to, like players caught in world geometry, reports of hackers (each and every one we have to take seriously), etc.

    He wasn't banned from the server, merely kicked as a warning, because he was being a royal pain in the ass while we were trying to do our jobs. In fact, the fact that he came back as KID PIX (he was being disruptive as fuck then too, screaming that we were going to "get blasted" in text chat again) shows that we didn't ban him. You'd figure if we were the abusive admins he claims, we might have done that. It's sort of odd that we didn't though, isn't it?

    Matter fact, I completely baited the dorks into repeating their abuse.
    Now, if this sounds like the kind of swaggering talk that the kind of person who truly believes they're a Chessmaster of Manipulation tells themselves to get even with fascist moderators, it's... well, it's because it is.

    I went in the chat talking about how they were reported on the forums and one of their admins popped up doing the same invisibility trick "frescoclean" mentioned. Check out the solid proof I just snapped


    That trick, in case you're curious, is this:



    I've helpfully drawn large red arrows the pertinent commands and items.

    Check out the solid proof I just snapped [...] He killed me right after this.
    You can tell Evesest totally isn't lying because even though he was baiting us like the chessmaster he is and he was ready to snap photographs of us admins abusing, he somehow never got a screenshot of the death message even though Ubernaga totally killed him for real you guis.

    I know when somebody claims he has "rock solid video evidence of police brutality" and shows me a video of a cop walking in front of him but not beating him, I'm inclined to think to myself "HE MUST BE TELLING THE TROOF!"

    Much like the very-passe double rainbow meme of yesteryear, you might at this point be asking yourself, what does it mean? Those admin items, as Tex/l0cke helpfully pointed out (much to the confusion of Evesest), help us do our job. It helps make us better admins. "BUT MOOJ!" you might say, "HOW DOES IT DO THAT?" As Tex pointed out, it lets us remain unseen. We see players superjumping, flying through the air, or snapping to us and tracking us with aimbots when we're not rendering and outside of nameplate distance. It allows us to verify hackusations, and monitor players unseen.

    In closing, let's weigh the arguments.

    On the one hand, we have Evesest and frescoclean's arguments:
    1. Players wanting Facepunch to institute policies against admins wearing the admin armor Facepunch programmed in for admins to wear.
    2. Players with narcissistic grandiosity believing they somehow "baited us" into administrating our server with admin tools, I guess, or something... this part is a little hazy since my diet doesn't consist solely of lead paint.
    3. Players who, despite their being nearly 5000 Rust servers online, are totally hellbent to show us that they - not we the admins - have the real power, and we totally pay money out of our own pockets every month so that they can act like entitled babies.
    4. Players who seem to be confused by the idea that admin tools actually are given to administrators to improve our skills at catching cheaters, exploiters, and other undesirables like racists, homophobes, rampaging misogynists, and server griefers who drive other players away.

    In all fairness, these arguments are compelling as hell, and very trustworthy. I'd buy a used car from Evesest. Hell, I'd buy a used condom from Evesest with compelling arguments like that. Who among us can deny that our internal monologues didn't toss in "QED and furthermore!" in an excited, professorial tone when Evesest posted that screenshot of Ubernaga "abusing" his admin powers by wearing admin armor in front of him, while simultaneously forgetting to screenshot Ubernaga using that to kill him (which he totally swears happened?)

    And what do the administrators such as myself have to defend ourselves from such scathing accusations and undeniable evidence?
    1. We made the judgment call that a player like Evesest, who a) wants a policy from Facepunch against admins using admin-only items, b) makes ridiculous claims that an admin he was actively trying to screenshot in the act of admin abuse killed him but never screenshot the kill message, c) claims that another admin is an idiot for pointing out that invisible armor is useful as hell for catching cheaters, and then d) made this thread to show us who has the real power around here was probably disruptive as all hell.
    2. We do our best to make that kind of judgment call all day, every day, so you will never, ever have to play with players like him.

    Which, when you think about it, is probably why our prime time player numbers are in the 90s, and why Evesest and frescoclean aren't on one of those 5000 other servers, instead here on the forums throwing a tantrum that 0.02% of those servers have administrators that dare not acknowledge them as God and their delusions as pronouncements therefrom.

    Edit:

    Pay attention. You just got aired out.
    My God, how in the hell did I miss this nugget of narcissistic grandiosity? Seriously folks, we do our very best to remove players like this.
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  17. Post #17

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    As a member of the internet jury I cast my vote in favor of the admins. A lot of people who play the game seem to have no real idea what an admin can/can't do, or how one might go about actually solving issues.

    Reminds of the time I was moderating a forum and people were freaking out because I could *gasp* see their IPs!
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  18. Post #18

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    LMAO. Talk about a TLDR; response if I've ever seen one. Even considering it being that long I still read as much of that look of BS as necessary to realize how low you're willing to go.

    The difference between you and I is that I have no investment and purpose to be posting here other than to warn fellow Rust players of another case of admin abuse that will waste their valuable time. In your own response you have named countless things you did that fall under this act.

    Also, I don't know if you know this, but in Rust if you keep your steam overlay active it sometimes makes weird screenshots noises every time you press certain buttons. I've had to disable it for the game "Darkfall" so my only means of screenshotting is Print Screen. I snapped a pic via prntscrn and put it right into Microsoft paint before I was killed/kicked, so there's no real way for me to snap another. Not that it matters, because tbh the death was a side note. It's more-so you kids warping around invisible at every given opportunity.

    Let me get this straight. Someone says in chat "looks like this server was reported on the forums for admin abuse" and you warp to them invisible with a rifle out? Hahaha great job of not raising the players suspicions.

    No, I am not the type of player that needs to be removed. You are the type of servers that need to be removed. I don't care if you are, though tbh because my job here is done. We've had numerous strangers come in here telling the same story. Take a long look at yourself and pay attention.
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  19. Post #19

    February 2014
    37 Posts


    I'm just going to leave this here. I believe what's been said so far, plus this guy taking it this far speaks for itself. The content of it should show you what type of low-lifes we're dealing with.

    One last thing I might say is that due to some problems last week with hostility taken so far as to start DoS attacks and RL threats, every time there's even a question of someone doing something wrong or what have you we run the 'status' command and take a screenshot of the IPs online, including the problematic user. If this kind of direct-contact and hostility keeps up and escalates any further I'm just going to use a database to sort out where the IP's assigned, then call your ISP and local police. That's all I'm going to say in this thread.

    He (Ubernaga) teleported to the player because they were a problem and we resolve those quickly. Also, the "Random People" that have piped in on this thread (Mooj) is also an admin there. Our policies and actions aren't really your concern. For those that are curious, yes we generally pop up invisible on suspected cheaters and trolls with a rifle out because killing someone with an Uber Hatchet or Uber Hunting Bow is less humiliating and familiar. You evidently didn't care enough while you were playing there to file several datums for future use, including the server rules and admins' names. This could've been resolved by you moving on your merry way rather than following us around and trolling, or escalating this to this point. I'm not sorry that you're upset. Based upon your steam messages and evident motivation so far you're mentally ill and that's that. I'm guessing that's what you meant me to "figure out myself". We've spent too much time on this as-is. Honestly the only reason I found this thread was because you spammed it across my Steam Guide for Rust and who knows where else.
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  20. Post #20

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    Jesus I think I'm gonna ask our admin to ban that guy in advance on the off-chance they find their way to us.
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  21. Post #21

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    No idea who 70mush is, but I agree with his disgust. Please post here and accept this rep

    Edited:

    Ohhh I get it, he's trying to suggest that person is me. Funny, although not valid and you know it since you teleported to me in game. Yet another reach in desperation, how embarrassing.

    I've not cussed once in this thread and like to think of myself as not needing that language to roast you guys for your malfeasance. (No offense to you, Mush. If you're reading this, I appreciate your help in showing distaste on the matter)

    Please, though, feel free to keep bumping this thread. I'd like to hear more first hand accounts of your immaturity.
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  22. Post #22
    EXILE [HCPVP]'s Avatar
    January 2014
    37 Posts

    I'm just going to leave this here. I believe what's been said so far, plus this guy taking it this far speaks for itself. The content of it should show you what type of low-lifes we're dealing with.
    The above was the original, unedited statement.

    You added the rest, as shown below, after the fact:

    One last thing I might say is that due to some problems last week with hostility taken so far as to start DoS attacks and RL threats
    For no reason, eh? Seems like you pissed someone off. I wonder how that happened...

    every time there's even a question of someone doing something wrong or what have you we run the 'status' command and take a screenshot of the IPs online, including the problematic user.
    I'm sure you do.

    If this kind of direct-contact and hostility keeps up and escalates any further I'm just going to use a database to sort out where the IP's assigned, then call your ISP and local police.
    ROFL.

    Comical threat is comical. Good luck with that.

    He (Ubernaga) teleported to the player because they were a problem and we resolve those quickly.
    What was the problem?

    Also, the "Random People" that have piped in on this thread (Mooj) is also an admin there.
    That is quite obvious, you really didn't need to explain it. Pay attention.

    Our policies and actions aren't really your concern.
    The policies and pattern of action taken by the administration staff are definitely something the players should concern themselves with. Claiming that they should not is absolutely absurd and does make you appear outwardly dishonest. What do you have to hide?

    I'm not sorry that you're upset. Based upon your steam messages and evident motivation so far you're mentally ill and that's that.
    Lowering yourself to the standard of the players you criticize above, and then proceeding to fire grade-school level insults in return, really doesn't do wonders for your credibility.

    Just stop posting, your server already looks like shit, and you're not helping.
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  23. Post #23

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    EXILE might have the hottest post I've read in years. Sheesh, that was a complete bodybag.

    Well said, sir.
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  24. Post #24
    TheMrVader's Avatar
    February 2014
    46 Posts
    I definitely am not going to read this great wall of text, but I literally just created an account so I could put my .02 about this server.

    I was on this server before they switched their name, and for a good amount of time it was a good server and meet a lot of like minded individuals on this server. Everything was going good until one day a certain admin logged in( never meet/seen him before till then ).

    His name was Dr. Pecker and was absolutely an abusive admin. All of the sudden multiple airdrops were called, so me and a friend I had meet on a different server ran as fast as we could to the location of the drops. The airdrop that was by us had 3 drops, I headed to the first one and my friend to the second. All of the sudden he tells me that he was killed, so I run over to deal with the problem. When I get there I see this guy ( Dr. Pecker) looting the boxes but throwing all the stuff out unto the ground, confused and angry that he killed my friend I takes shots. He does as well, but I run and hide in a little hole that was near by, then poof he is right in my face....dead.

    I then proceed to call out the admin abuse, and then he started to reals things off like don't touch my drops etc etc. I was very annoyed so I repeated the admin abuse. Then he starts asking where I live, and seeing as I had just spawned at my camp, I quickly deserted my house cause I had a feeling of what was coming next. BOOM, spawn to me kill me, this time not spawning at my base, BOOM again, and again, and again and so on.

    Since obviously he was getting mad that I wasn't spawn at my house he left me alone along enough to spawn at another friends house and basically do the same thing to him, but not only taking items but destroying anything he didn't want.

    Another admin( Friend ) come on a little later as well as the server owner and I explained the situation to them. The owner literally told me that he started the server for that admin ( Dr. Pecker ) and that since he didn't know me, he would only do something if another report came out by him abusing admin powers.

    I didn't want to deal with an admin that had it out for me, and at anytime could log in and spawn to my base, so wants the point. I was so frustrated with this and the last server I was on ( nWo ) so I made my own server. Things have never been better.

    I go the extreme to make sure admin abuse doesn't happen by even denying people giving me stuff to research or hand outs at all. Every piece of wood, every gun, everything was collected by myself, the way every player should play, including admins.

    Thanks!
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  25. Post #25

    February 2014
    7 Posts
    Admin abuse on Taco cave server!!!!
    Be careful do not play on this server
    They did massive airdrops right after a server wipe for admin only
    Limited players to 3 for that time only
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  26. Post #26
    Dennab
    December 2013
    252 Posts
    Mmm internet drama
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  27. Post #27

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    I definitely am not going to read this great wall of text, but I literally just created an account so I could put my .02 about this server.

    I was on this server before they switched their name, and for a good amount of time it was a good server and meet a lot of like minded individuals on this server. Everything was going good until one day a certain admin logged in( never meet/seen him before till then ).

    His name was Dr. Pecker and was absolutely an abusive admin. All of the sudden multiple airdrops were called, so me and a friend I had meet on a different server ran as fast as we could to the location of the drops. The airdrop that was by us had 3 drops, I headed to the first one and my friend to the second. All of the sudden he tells me that he was killed, so I run over to deal with the problem. When I get there I see this guy ( Dr. Pecker) looting the boxes but throwing all the stuff out unto the ground, confused and angry that he killed my friend I takes shots. He does as well, but I run and hide in a little hole that was near by, then poof he is right in my face....dead.

    I then proceed to call out the admin abuse, and then he started to reals things off like don't touch my drops etc etc. I was very annoyed so I repeated the admin abuse. Then he starts asking where I live, and seeing as I had just spawned at my camp, I quickly deserted my house cause I had a feeling of what was coming next. BOOM, spawn to me kill me, this time not spawning at my base, BOOM again, and again, and again and so on.

    Since obviously he was getting mad that I wasn't spawn at my house he left me alone along enough to spawn at another friends house and basically do the same thing to him, but not only taking items but destroying anything he didn't want.

    Another admin( Friend ) come on a little later as well as the server owner and I explained the situation to them. The owner literally told me that he started the server for that admin ( Dr. Pecker ) and that since he didn't know me, he would only do something if another report came out by him abusing admin powers.

    I didn't want to deal with an admin that had it out for me, and at anytime could log in and spawn to my base, so wants the point. I was so frustrated with this and the last server I was on ( nWo ) so I made my own server. Things have not been better.

    I go the extreme to make sure admin abuse doesn't happen by even denying people giving me stuff to research or hand outs at all. Every piece of wood, every gun, everything was collected by myself, the way every player should play, including admins.

    Thanks!
    Wow, I can sympathize with you bro. That sounds very frustrating. Thank you for registering to vouch

    Mind pm'ing me your server info?
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  28. Post #28
    EXILE [HCPVP]'s Avatar
    January 2014
    37 Posts
    I definitely am not going to read this great wall of text, but I literally just created an account so I could put my .02 about this server.
    Yet another unsatisfied player. Coincidence?

    I was on this server before they switched their name
    Most server owners like to maintain the identity of the server and establish a reputation that will make potential players want to check out or remain indefinitely on that server.

    Changing the name removes that identity entirely and is yet another red flag about dishonest administrative practices taking place on this server.
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  29. Post #29
    TheMrVader's Avatar
    February 2014
    46 Posts
    Yet another unsatisfied player. Coincidence?



    Most server owners like to maintain the identity of the server and establish a reputation that will make potential players want to check out or remain indefinitely on that server.

    Changing the name removes that identity entirely and is yet another red flag about dishonest administrative practices taking place on this server.
    I agree with this, but I am about to switch the name of my server, because I wanted it to reflect the website/forums that are going to be up soon for the server.

    PS: Evesest, you need to turn on private messages before I can PM you.
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  30. Post #30
    EXILE [HCPVP]'s Avatar
    January 2014
    37 Posts
    I agree with this, but I am about to switch the name of my server, because I wanted it to reflect the website/forums that are going to be up soon for the server.
    Certainly, changing names can (and does) occur for completely honest reasons.

    My point was more in regards to how, in this particular case, it lends credence to the accusations of abuse.

    Edited:

    However, if I'm drunk or stoned, or there are a ton of people on I might just fire a few airdrops into a radtown just to watch what happens and fraps it.
    You actually edited this in after and thought it would make you look better?

    This guy...

    It's all in good fun, as well as for the good. If you believe that's admin abuse, then in the opinion of most of the people who play on our server and stay you're both dead wrong and don't belong on our server.
    You do understand that excess airdrops make progression snowball at a greatly intensified rate? Correct?

    Intentionally snowballing progression for those already established has a seriously detrimental impact on the players who have not established themselves to that same level. You are widening a balance gap between new players and old players every time you do this "all in good fun".

    Your entire statement above is basically an unintentional self-admission that you have no idea how to fairly administrate a server.

    "Noob Friendly" means we try to be helpful in answering questions and providing an environment that's not hostile toward our playerbase. It doesn't mean free stuff, teleports for players or that no one will kill you.
    Most players don't have an issue with another player killing them. However, when it is a god-mode abusing administrator, who teleports right on top of you prior to making the kill, then that is another story entirely.

    Welcome to Rust.
    Mindlessly regurgitating a catch phrase you've seen repeated on other servers is definitely a good way to show that you can think for yourself and are not easily influenced by other individuals, isn't it?
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  31. Post #31

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    A bunch of narcissistic grandiosity and psychology projection.

    Some bit about how he couldn't take a screenshot of Ubernaga killing him because the Screenshot button makes a noise.

    Another part where he changes his story from claiming Ubernaga killed him to Ubernaga kicked him from the server.

    A suspiciously missing part where he doesn't explain how even if he was using Print Screen to take screenshots he didn't just paste it into MS Paint, then Print Screen the kick message and paste that too. Hope nobody thinks of th-- oops.

    A part where he claims Ubernaga teleported to him because he said something in chat, but forgets his own screenshot shows an admin (me), asking him about what he said in chat and his own screenshot shows him refusing to answer, which is why Ubernaga teleported to him, to have a private discussion about what he said in chat and refused to elaborate on despite having an admin ask him what he was talking about. Hope nobody catches on to that part, eith-- DAMN!

    Then some part where he says he doesn't care despite making seven posts over the course of nine hours because that's a thing people who don't care about anything do.

    Self-declaration of victory. INTELLECTUAL CHECKMATE! Diaper rash: Soothed.
    Now, how abusive am I, casual readers and people who don't regularly suffocate themselves for kicks might ask? I spent all night building tiny gazebos by the side of the road:


    (In the lower left image, a special treat: A gazebo in the wild stalking its natural enemy - another gazebo!)

    I also gave our regulars their daily affirmation, a little something-something I use to remind my sunshines that they're beautiful people:


    Again, many arguments need to be weighed here.

    Like Evesest said, he's super-right because he totally is and he says so (and you know he's not the kind of player that would need to be removed with an attitude like that, everybody loves playing with a smug, disruptive, narcissistic know-it-all that thinks the Facepunch-granted admin tools are a "trick").

    So there's that.

    On the other hand, you really have to ask yourselves how much of a total douchebag you have to be to actually piss off an admin that dots the landscape with tiny, public-access gazebos and reminds his players that they're wonderful people. The answer is, the kind of douchebag that doesn't know how or why admins cloak themselves, calls it abuse, and then when the admins point out why they do it, claims they got "aired out".

    Again, players. I can't promise you I won't abuse. You will be forced to pass by my gazebos. You may even use them to cook chicken in. At some point, I will tell you I love you.

    All I can promise you is, I will do my level best to remove players like Evesest consistently and in a timely manner. God help us all.
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  32. Post #32
    EXILE [HCPVP]'s Avatar
    January 2014
    37 Posts
    people who don't regularly suffocate themselves for kicks
    More grade-school, prepubescent insults. Classy.

    I spent all night building tiny gazebos by the side of the road.
    Which has what to do with the discussion taking place? Nothing you posted above disproves any of the accusations being leveled against you or the other administrators.

    You like to build gazebos on roadsides. Good for you.
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  33. Post #33

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    Jesus I think I'm gonna ask our admin to ban that guy in advance on the off-chance they find their way to us.
    Let me know if you want our ban list. It's full of the most delightful, ragiest racists, homophobes, and cheaters. They can find a warm, snug spot in your own server's banlist!
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  34. Post #34

    November 2013
    45 Posts
    These server admins post nothing but irrelevant pictures it seems. Very strange defense they have here.

    Looking even worse for them by the minute.
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  35. Post #35

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    More grade-school, prepubescent insults. Classy.
    Again, ladies and gentlemen, the kind of sociopaths we regularly deal with. Doesn't bat an eye at Tex posting psychotic rage directed at him. Doesn't seem to mind the "grade-school, prepubescent insults" of Evesest throwing out "dorks" in the OP (because people over twelve totally say that!)

    Soils his pants at an off-hand reference to autoerotic asphyxia.

    Nothing you posted above disproves any of the accusations being leveled against you or the other administrators.
    Well thank God the burden of proof isn't on us, then, it's on the accusers. Again, only sociopaths think a person has to disprove an accusation. Normal people with normal people thoughts understand Evesest might want to get around to proving his accusation.

    Normal people with normal people thoughts might start to wonder why he doesn't understand the tools and admin has at his disposal. Normal people might wonder why he's changed his story. Normal people might wonder how said he had rock solid proof but didn't manage to screenshot him getting killed or kicked (which is it, now?) Normal people with normal people thoughts might look at that and go, huh, the admins don't have to disprove anything, this looks more like a crazy, angry rager flipping out. They happen in videogames. A lot.

    These server admins post nothing but irrelevant pictures it seems. Very strange defense they have here.
    Again, here's a thing that makes sense in his head. He goes off in a rage about ADMIN ABOOS! ADMIN ABOOS! So I post some pictures to show the kind of admin'ing I do. Building tiny buildings. Being chatty with the regulars. In his head, this is "irrelevant."

    In that same head, quite literally the same brain, he posts a picture of an admin in invisible armor. He claims that this is abuse. He claims that the admin killed him, but oddly didn't screenshot that. He later changes his story and claims the admin kicked him. He also didn't screenshot that.

    This makes sense. In his head, this actually makes a large amount of sense.

    Looking even worse for them by the minute.
    lol @ internet court

    Do you understand why I keep feeding you? Do you understand why I keep getting a person who claims he doesn't care to keep posting reply after reply?

    Because every time you do, it becomes a selling point for our server. It becomes a high point. We get rid of people like you. Trouble players. Disruptive morons. You are exactly the kind of people we don't want to attract. Who your friends are can say a lot about you, but man, who hates you says so much more. We don't want racists. We don't want homophobes. We don't want cheaters. We don't want ragers. Congratulations on not showing yourself to be one of the first three. Sucks to be you to be the fourth.

    Please, by all means, reply more. The more I can point to you and go "Do you want to play on a server where the admin doesn't spawn shit tons of C4 but instead builds tiny little gazebos, and also kicks people like Evesest," the more regulars we attract. Like I said, we hit high 90s at peak. I'd love to see that pass 100.
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  36. Post #36
    TheMrVader's Avatar
    February 2014
    46 Posts
    Again, ladies and gentlemen, the kind of sociopaths we regularly deal with. Doesn't bat an eye at Tex posting psychotic rage directed at him. Doesn't seem to mind the "grade-school, prepubescent insults" of Evesest throwing out "dorks" in the OP (because people over twelve totally say that!)

    Soils his pants at an off-hand reference to autoerotic asphyxia.



    Well thank God the burden of proof isn't on us, then, it's on the accusers. Again, only sociopaths think a person has to disprove an accusation. Normal people with normal people thoughts understand Evesest might want to get around to proving his accusation.

    Normal people with normal people thoughts might start to wonder why he doesn't understand the tools and admin has at his disposal. Normal people might wonder why he's changed his story. Normal people might wonder how said he had rock solid proof but didn't manage to screenshot him getting killed or kicked (which is it, now?) Normal people with normal people thoughts might look at that and go, huh, the admins don't have to disprove anything, this looks more like a crazy, angry rager flipping out. They happen in videogames. A lot.



    Again, here's a thing that makes sense in his head. He goes off in a rage about ADMIN ABOOS! ADMIN ABOOS! So I post some pictures to show the kind of admin'ing I do. Building tiny buildings. Being chatty with the regulars. In his head, this is "irrelevant."

    In that same head, quite literally the same brain, he posts a picture of an admin in invisible armor. He claims that this is abuse. He claims that the admin killed him, but oddly didn't screenshot that. He later changes his story and claims the admin kicked him. He also didn't screenshot that.

    This makes sense. In his head, this actually makes a large amount of sense.



    lol @ internet court

    Do you understand why I keep feeding you? Do you understand why I keep getting a person who claims he doesn't care to keep posting reply after reply?

    Because every time you do, it becomes a selling point for our server. It becomes a high point. We get rid of people like you. Trouble players. Disruptive morons. You are exactly the kind of people we don't want to attract. Who your friends are can say a lot about you, but man, who hates you says so much more. We don't want racists. We don't want homophobes. We don't want cheaters. We don't want ragers. Congratulations on not showing yourself to be one of the first three. Sucks to be you to be the fourth.

    Please, by all means, reply more. The more I can point to you and go "Do you want to play on a server where the admin doesn't spawn shit tons of C4 but instead builds tiny little gazebos, and also kicks people like Evesest," the more regulars we attract. Like I said, we hit high 90s at peak. I'd love to see that pass 100.
    As an admin myself, I understand the use of invis gear, but never have I used invis gear and ran around with a gun. You are obviously not doing this for any other reason other than you can. If I am trying to track and person to see if they are hacking, I know I am not going to have anything on my person except the invis gear, especially have gun floating around my invis body.
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  37. Post #37

    February 2014
    8 Posts
    As an admin myself, I understand the use of invis gear, but never have I used invis gear and ran around with a gun. You are obviously not doing this for any other reason other than you can. If I am trying to track and person to see if they are hacking, I know I am not going to have anything on my person except the invis gear, especially have gun floating around my invis body.
    You're right. When Evesest showed up and made his moronic screed about how we had been "blasted" (his words) on the forums, and (as you can see in his own screenshot), refused to reply to me when I asked him how, OBVIOUSLY Ubernaga immediately went to have a discussion with him in private just to wave his gun around, and not because the admin interacting with a player takes precedence over taking your invisible armor off or putting your gun away. Notice how Ubernaga was pointing his gun away from him?

    Since you're an admin, why don't you puzzle that one out for us. When you teleport to a player, you teleport inside of them, facing the same direction.

    Why not explain to us, then why either a) Ubernaga stepped away and turned his gun away from Evesest if he wanted to threaten him or b) when Evesest stepped away, Ubernaga (despite wanting to threaten him) didn't point his gun at him.

    I know why Ubernaga did this, because I asked Uber to see what he was talking about because he refused to answer me, as you can see in his own screenshot. Moments before, we were standing around talking to a couple of new players. They were asking if we were admins. We said yes. We showed them the Uber Hunting Bow and how it shoots rockets. We told them if they ever saw people floating around, or weapons floating around, it was us. Then Uber teleported to Evesest to talk to him because, again, Evesest started making claims in chat and refusing to answer.

    In what can only be the slightest fairness to Evesest, he wouldn't actually know what we were doing before hand. Though given that he's a liar in that he was neither kicked nor killed by Uber, that's the slightest bit of fairness.

    Now, while you're explaining to the class why Ubernaga was threatening Evesest by pointing his gun wildly away from him, why not tell us why Evesest couldn't screenshot the kill or kick message?
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  38. Post #38
    TheMrVader's Avatar
    February 2014
    46 Posts
    You're right. When Evesest showed up and made his moronic screed about how we had been "blasted" (his words) on the forums, and (as you can see in his own screenshot), refused to reply to me when I asked him how, OBVIOUSLY Ubernaga immediately went to have a discussion with him in private just to wave his gun around, and not because the admin interacting with a player takes precedence over taking your invisible armor off or putting your gun away. Notice how Ubernaga was pointing his gun away from him?

    Since you're an admin, why don't you puzzle that one out for us. When you teleport to a player, you teleport inside of them, facing the same direction.

    Why not explain to us, then why either a) Ubernaga stepped away and turned his gun away from Evesest if he wanted to threaten him or b) when Evesest stepped away, Ubernaga (despite wanting to threaten him) didn't point his gun at him.

    I know why Ubernaga did this, because I asked Uber to see what he was talking about because he refused to answer me, as you can see in his own screenshot. Moments before, we were standing around talking to a couple of new players. They were asking if we were admins. We said yes. We showed them the Uber Hunting Bow and how it shoots rockets. We told them if they ever saw people floating around, or weapons floating around, it was us. Then Uber teleported to Evesest to talk to him because, again, Evesest started making claims in chat and refusing to answer.

    In what can only be the slightest fairness to Evesest, he wouldn't actually know what we were doing before hand. Though given that he's a liar in that he was neither kicked nor killed by Uber, that's the slightest bit of fairness.

    Now, while you're explaining to the class why Ubernaga was threatening Evesest by pointing his gun wildly away from him, why not tell us why Evesest couldn't screenshot the kill or kick message?
    Why not just put the gun away? If its on slot 1 and out, press slot 1 again, and VUAHLA its not visible. Even intimidating someone with invis gear and gun( obviously God mode as well ) is just as much admin abuse as spawning items.

    I was not there, and I am not on anyone's side. I came here to go over what happened to me on this server. I don't have proof of any of the things I claimed, but regardless it happened. I say this because you keep going on about screenshot this screenshot that. Sometimes when you are mad or annoyed, you are not thinking about taking a screenshot or fraps recording or w/e. Or you get killed so you instant hit respawn so you can chat.

    Overall I am not telling people one way or the other to stay/leave your server. You have openly admitted you abuse admins powers, and now it is up for each person to decide if they want to play on a server like this or not.
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  39. Post #39
    andypopz's Avatar
    January 2014
    335 Posts
    Here's 2 cents from someone people actually like on this server; It's good! It has it's issues(sometimes you get ignored by admin when you are trying to report actual issues) but most of those happen when you have douchebags flying around wall-hacking, or spamming chat disguised as other players or whatever. I think people here who call "ABOOOOOSE" constantly fail to realize that these admin pay for your precious server, and don't spend their day wasting it on peeps who complain about stuff that does not matter, or handing out free goodies to whomever, for whatever. In my experience, minus the wavering ability to give input as a player(yep you dudes should work on that, have been an admin on multiple servers, when minecraft ruled my life) this server is actually really good, and I would encourage folks to join it.
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  40. Post #40
    Prov3rbial's Avatar
    February 2014
    462 Posts
    EDIT -- Maybe I'll just try the server and see.
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