1. Post #1

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    I was in full kevlar earlier, and someone snuck behind me and one shot me with a pipe shot gun in my head. How is that even possible? What's the point of kevlar if you can still be one shot by a weapon.
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  2. Post #2

    January 2014
    14 Posts
    You try wearing full body armor and get blasted by a shotgun in the head...bet youd be dead too. Learn to know your surroundings.
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  3. Post #3

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    You try wearing full body armor and get blasted by a shotgun in the head...bet youd be dead too. Learn to know your surroundings.
    You're missing the point. What's the point of wearing the armor when even the most basic of weapons can still kill you in one hit. Naked or kevlar, just as dead with one shot.
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  4. Post #4

    January 2014
    14 Posts
    from point blank yes...but maybe from 15 yards you would still be alive, where otherwise you would be dead...shotguns have a unique spread.. the further away your are the less damage you take (because less lead is melting your skin.)

  5. Post #5
    Dennab
    January 2014
    192 Posts
    >implying being shot point blank wouldn't kill you
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  6. Post #6

    January 2014
    14 Posts
    it's a video game guys and even a realistic video game should put armor in some sort of useful category when it costs as much as Kevlar to make.
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  7. Post #7

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    Is head armor working as intended? Does it protect you from any round?

  8. Post #8

    January 2014
    22 Posts
    Its hand made kevlar made from leather and a low quality metal, that could be some kind of aluminum, what the hell do you expect.
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  9. Post #9

    October 2013
    115 Posts
    I think you're missing the point, half the battle is having the gear, the other half is knowing your surrondings and making sure you don't put yourself into a situation to get blasted in the back of the head @ point blank.
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  10. Post #10

    January 2014
    14 Posts
    ^^ my point exactly...kevlar helps...it doesnt make you godlike
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  11. Post #11
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    February 2014
    56 Posts
    In real life, you would die if he straight up point blanked you from right behind.
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  12. Post #12

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    Ok enough of the real life application attempts. Some how you're able to develop lasers on an island... and no one questions it, and flash lights with unlimited power. Drop the arguments against it.

    My question, for the developers, not for those of you with absolutely no concept of game testing. What is the intent for a kevlar helmet?
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    February 2014
    56 Posts
    Ok enough of the real life application attempts. Some how you're able to develop lasers on an island... and no one questions it, and flash lights with unlimited power. Drop the arguments against it.

    My question, for the developers, not for those of you with absolutely no concept of game testing. What is the intent for a kevlar helmet?
    I answered your question and so did another person did.
    Yes, the head armor is working. Have you noticed if you have lower tier armor and get shot it deals more damage than if you compared taking damages to Kevlar? Take a look at the Effects.

    Having Kevlar does not make you bulletproof or god. If you get shot in the head from right behind, you're going to die regardless of what quality weapon or caliber.
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  14. Post #14

    January 2014
    253 Posts
    LOL @ thread....

    You let someone sneak up behind you and shoot you at point blank, yet you're bitching...LOLOLOL Best troll thread yet.
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  15. Post #15

    January 2014
    234 Posts
    Ok enough of the real life application attempts. Some how you're able to develop lasers on an island... and no one questions it, and flash lights with unlimited power. Drop the arguments against it.

    My question, for the developers, not for those of you with absolutely no concept of game testing. What is the intent for a kevlar helmet?
    To help REDUCE weapon damage taken. The intent is NOT to REMOVE weapon damage taken. If you allow someone to creep up on you and shoot you point blank with a shotgun, you deserve to die.
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  16. Post #16
    lollerskates's Avatar
    January 2014
    126 Posts
    Not sure if troll thread or bad player.
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  17. Post #17

    February 2014
    146 Posts
    To help REDUCE weapon damage taken. The intent is NOT to REMOVE weapon damage taken. If you allow someone to creep up on you and shoot you point blank with a shotgun, you deserve to die.
    At no time have I said point blank. Only that a player was able to shoot me from behind (I heard someone in the dark, turned and saw him in the distance).

    My point is, what does it matter how much it reduces the damage, if it still only takes one shot to kill you? Why bother with head armor at all?

    Does range affect how much a bullet does? Is there a range that a bolt action can fire from at your head that won't result in a one shot kill?
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  18. Post #18

    January 2014
    38 Posts
    At no time have I said point blank. Only that a player was able to shoot me from behind (I heard someone in the dark, turned and saw him in the distance).

    My point is, what does it matter how much it reduces the damage, if it still only takes one shot to kill you? Why bother with head armor at all?
    If that's the case and it was a pipe shotgun I'd be more concerned about a nospread and aimbot than whether or not kevlar makes a difference.
    Does range affect how much a bullet does? Is there a range that a bolt action can fire from at your head that won't result in a one shot kill?
    If that's the case and it truly was a pipe shotty I'd be more concerned about someone being a nospread/aimbot user than whether or not Kevlar is designed to soak up enough damage. Pipe shotties have a crazy spread at range I've never been one shot by one unless I was spaced out 1/2 watching tv and it was a point blank hit.

    So either you were jacked from behind at point blank and are too embarrassed to admit that someone got the drop on you or you are expecting Kevlar to protect you from hackers. Either way it's a pretty laughable situation IMHO.

  19. Post #19

    January 2014
    234 Posts
    At no time have I said point blank. Only that a player was able to shoot me from behind (I heard someone in the dark, turned and saw him in the distance).

    My point is, what does it matter how much it reduces the damage, if it still only takes one shot to kill you? Why bother with head armor at all?

    Does range affect how much a bullet does? Is there a range that a bolt action can fire from at your head that won't result in a one shot kill?
    If you died to a pipe shotgun in one shot from 100-0 hp, then you got shot point blank. I've been naked and lived through more pipe shotgun shells than that. If you say otherwise you're just full of shit.
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  20. Post #20

    December 2013
    102 Posts
    I tested this with my friend.. Kevlar reduces headshot damage from a p250 by like maybe 20ish damage..

    2 -3 headshots with no medkit at any distance and your dead.. Kevlar is maybe not worth the investment it takes unless your jacked up in resources.. Leather is only slightly less powerful and 10x cheaper to make.

  21. Post #21
    lollerskates's Avatar
    January 2014
    126 Posts
    This is pretty accurate, actually

    http://playrustwiki.com/wiki/Kevlar

    Leather is only slightly less powerful and 10x cheaper to make.
    Leather doesn't camouflage as well, though

  22. Post #22
    Leon Garoux's Avatar
    February 2014
    244 Posts
    I never actually use Kevlar for direct combat. I use it when it is dark - either for ambushing my enemies at towns I know they frequent alone at night, or whenever I managed a supply signal.

    Actually, I lied. I also use it when I am being home-raided. Pretty nice gear to have when shooting out of barred-windows where you can just respawn right at your gear safely.

    Otherwise, I just use leather. So much more efficient.
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  23. Post #23

    May 2013
    61 Posts
    so what i'm getting at here is that bad players want kevlar to be buffed so they can be better somehow? If you're so shit at the game to die by someone with a pipe shotgun WHILST YOU HAVE KEVLAR... You should've have had it in the first place, as one of the previous posts stated.
    You try wearing full body armor and get blasted by a shotgun in the head...bet youd be dead too. Learn to know your surroundings.

  24. Post #24

    February 2014
    316 Posts
    You could wear two kevlar helmets and you'd die if I'd pop a shell right into your face. Even when this shell is filled with stone instead of lead.

  25. Post #25

    January 2014
    8 Posts
    pipe shotgun has 140 damage, obviously leathal at close range.

  26. Post #26

    February 2014
    120 Posts
    The intent of kevlar armor is to allow you to take more damage before dying, giving you a higher chance of surviving a gun fight. However if you're bad enough that you allow someone to fire a pipe shotgun point blank at your head, you should die, because you deserve to.

  27. Post #27

    January 2014
    57 Posts
    The logic for some people lol

  28. Post #28

    December 2013
    25 Posts

  29. Post #29

    October 2013
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  30. Post #30

    January 2014
    137 Posts
    At no time have I said point blank. Only that a player was able to shoot me from behind (I heard someone in the dark, turned and saw him in the distance).

    My point is, what does it matter how much it reduces the damage, if it still only takes one shot to kill you? Why bother with head armor at all?

    Does range affect how much a bullet does? Is there a range that a bolt action can fire from at your head that won't result in a one shot kill?
    Dude, your point is you're not reading the comments on your OWN thread. It works, it's not a 'fail safe', and your exaggeration with lasers makes me t hink you could be exaggerating this. I have never seen someone get oneshot by anything in kevlar(save a bolt action, but i think the dude was already injured). I can tell you from experience(I can hs pretty easy in this game, plus people are dumb here) that if you're wearing anykind of head armor it will take you 2+ hs from anything lower then 556 ammo. Also, as a user of the so far almost pointless shotguns, he had to be right behind you to hit you. The range sucks, after 8 yards it won't even register a hit, maybe 11-12 with a pipe. With Kevlar, it takes almost 3 hs's to kill someone to the head, save the p250 maybe, with 9 mm ammo. Also, this game is about makeshift armor and weps. Your kevlar is shitty Kev, lowest quality you can find. The modern weps are all placeholder, they'll be replace by bolt action/revolver looking weps soon to fit the game.

    TLDR-This game is forgiving with hs's, you don't die instantly in one shot usually, giving you time to use a medpack and hide to make a plan of attack. I just think you arn't good with shooter games, try playing some to pick up your skill, shooting is VERY much a part of Rust, if you suck at aiming, you're gonna suck at Rust. AND if you heard the guy, and saw him, you shoulda never took your eyes off him.

  31. Post #31

    December 2013
    86 Posts
    So, I guess one shotting people in kevlar with a Handcannon is a problem then. He snuck up on you and shot you point plank in the head, every shot hit. Kevlar would not protect you from a shotgun point blank. You don't even need a headshot with the Handcannon to kill someone in kevlar, you just need to hit him with all the shots at less than 3 meters/yards.
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  32. Post #32

    January 2014
    137 Posts
    So, I guess one shotting people in kevlar with a Handcannon is a problem then. He snuck up on you and shot you point plank in the head, every shot hit. Kevlar would not protect you from a shotgun point blank. You don't even need a headshot with the Handcannon to kill someone in kevlar, you just need to hit him with all the shots at less than 3 meters/yards.

    lol, and t hat thing misfires a lot...like...'damn, it didn't light! -click..click..click.....BOOM!-'

    Seriously though, shotguns are balls at range against kev...irl. :D, idk about point blank, but i know fram a distance that you can't come close to shooting in rust, or most videogames(why i hate video game shotguns, people use them to hunt fucking birds, but shooter games I can't hit anyone at 10 feet away, blow me) The pellets sink in the first two layers, or bounce off.

  33. Post #33

    February 2014
    51 Posts
    The in game difference from Leather to Kkevlar is maybe 1 bullet and medium to long range. Close range it doesn't really matter.. you dead.

  34. Post #34

    February 2014
    3 Posts
    First off a full set of kev doesn't take much to make and you got shot by a weapon that is literally only effective at point blank range and headshots do 2.5x damage if I recall. So even with the, I think it's 50% damage reduction from being in full kev, you would've taken a ton of damage if all the shots hit you. Moral of the story is turn your volume up and don't let someone stand on top of you before you realize they are there.

  35. Post #35
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    Wyvyrias's Avatar
    January 2014
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    I tested this with my friend.. Kevlar reduces headshot damage from a p250 by like maybe 20ish damage..

    2 -3 headshots with no medkit at any distance and your dead.. Kevlar is maybe not worth the investment it takes unless your jacked up in resources.. Leather is only slightly less powerful and 10x cheaper to make.
    Full kevlar -> headshot with the sniper and you do instantly.
    That's worse, but fine.
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  36. Post #36

    February 2014
    11 Posts
    Its hand made kevlar made from leather and a low quality metal, that could be some kind of aluminum, what the hell do you expect.
    There is no chance that it's aluminum. Aluminum is a pretty strong reducing agent and is extremely rare in metallic form. Nearly all of it is produced electrolytically.