1. Post #81
    Dennab
    February 2014
    3 Posts
    Bloody :)? Think twice before saying smth. If there is 1 idiot from Russian that doesn't mean that everybody is the same!
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  2. Post #82
    No title or gold masterrace, whoops.
    Teddybeer's Avatar
    July 2012
    5,222 Posts
    Evidently someone doesn't understand what being VAC banned means...

    If you get VAC banned in TF2, You will be banned from ALL VAC-Protected servers, in ANY game.
    Evidently someone doesn't understand what being VAC banned means...
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  3. Post #83
    Bola's Avatar
    January 2014
    79 Posts
    missunderstood = deleted

    Dumb post deleted. Thanks myself!

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  4. Post #84
    Jillain's Avatar
    February 2014
    21 Posts
    At this point of the Discussion. All i can do is laugh at your stupid Face.
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  5. Post #85

    November 2011
    28 Posts
    Evidently someone doesn't understand what being VAC banned means...
    Oh i'm sorry - Am I wrong? Please enlighten me and highlight my mistake?

    Bloody :)? Think twice before saying smth. If there is 1 idiot from Russian that doesn't mean that everybody is the same!
    UK3 was completely full of Russians - Mostly assholes. I am not basing my opinions on a single user.
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  6. Post #86

    February 2014
    150 Posts
    Bloody :)? Think twice before saying smth. If there is 1 idiot from Russian that doesn't mean that everybody is the same!
    yeah my personal experience is based on hundreds & hundreds of hours in different games.

    god, when BRs and Russians entered early Call of Duty 1 servers/Unreal/Quake servers..

    you just knew it was going to be a hacker or a total asshole. it was a given
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  7. Post #87
    Oh i'm sorry - Am I wrong? Please enlighten me and highlight my mistake?
    If you get VAC banned in TF2, You will be banned from ALL VAC-Protected servers, in ANY game.

    Let's just make that clear.
    You got caught out, you can pay for your mistakes. Enjoy.
    If you are VAC banned in TF2, you are VAC banned from a number of Source games, and your TF2 inventory is wiped (except for Mann Co. store purchases), but that isn't ANY game as you claimed.


    Let's hear it one more time!
    Evidently someone doesn't understand what being VAC banned means...
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  8. Post #88
    Lunakrypt's Avatar
    July 2010
    141 Posts
    I had to stop playing the game "Time Zero" because of Russians. It is a Russian based game. They found out I was an American. From then on it was kill on site for them. And I loved that game too...
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  9. Post #89

    November 2011
    28 Posts
    Oh I see, so what you are trying to tell me, is that VAC bans do not actually ban you from servers that are protected by VAC?
    How backwards is that? I figured it would be one Unified system, where if you cheat on a server protected by VAC, anything else that uses VAC will enforce the same rules and honour all historical bans.

    I have read your link, and did read the part that definitely makes me look stupid, my bad. But it is slightly illogical.
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  10. Post #90
    Dennab
    February 2014
    3 Posts
    I had to stop playing the game "Time Zero" because of Russians. It is a Russian based game. They found out I was an American. From then on it was kill on site for them. And I loved that game too...
    I don't care who you are and where are you from. In Rust I KOS everybody because there is always a "Friendly" player with a shotgun!
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  11. Post #91
    Oh I see, so what you are trying to tell me, is that VAC bans do not actually ban you from servers that are protected by VAC?
    How backwards is that? I figured it would be one Unified system, where if you cheat on a server protected by VAC, anything else that uses VAC will enforce the same rules and honour all historical bans.

    I have read your link, and did read the part that definitely makes me look stupid, my bad. But it is slightly illogical.
    I do not have any VAC bans on my account, but let's pretend that I cheated in TF2 in 2008.

    Should I really be prohibited from playing Rust if I've had five years and counting of perfect behaviour?

    I'm not talking about the ethics of saying "once a cheater, always a cheater."

    I'm saying, it would be insane for Valve to kill off customers like that over one single hack detection. For Valve's own games, you get banned by engine if you cheat (except that CS:GO is excluded from the Source list, as is L4D1/2 ), and you can no longer play on VAC-protected servers in those games.

    It would be insane to globally ban someone from any VAC-protected server, ever, across all titles that use it, because someone took a wallhack out to play in CS1.6 in 2007 because they got drunk and thought it'd be funny. They'd be giving up hundreds or thousands of dollars in future sales every time they VAC banned someone.

    The punishment needs to fit the crime. You don't punish a single act of shoplifting with lifelong exile to a prison colony island 10 miles offshore with no roof over the inmates' quarters.
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  12. Post #92

    November 2011
    28 Posts
    I do not have any VAC bans on my account, but let's pretend that I cheated in TF2 in 2008.

    Should I really be prohibited from playing Rust if I've had five years and counting of perfect behaviour?

    I'm not talking about the ethics of saying "once a cheater, always a cheater."

    I'm saying, it would be insane for Valve to kill off customers like that over one single hack detection. For Valve's own games, you get banned by engine if you cheat (except that CS:GO is excluded from the Source list, as is L4D1/2 ), and you can no longer play on VAC-protected servers in those games.

    It would be insane to globally ban someone from any VAC-protected server, ever, across all titles that use it, because someone took a wallhack out to play in CS1.6 in 2007 because they got drunk and thought it'd be funny.
    Okay, sure. I can understand that - But then should VAC not just implement an expiration timer on the bans - To enable play on VAC servers after x amount of years?

    As it currently stands, it does not matter if the game is 6-7 years old or 6 months old, it will still only ban you for that one third-party title that so happens to be protected by VAC.
    For example, say if DayZ had VAC (Does it?) and you hacked and got banned from it - You would still be able to run Rust and hack on that also. But your account is already flagged as simply 'VAC Banned'.

    How would you differentiate between the bans?
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  13. Post #93
    Okay, sure. I can understand that - But then should VAC not just implement an expiration timer on the bans - To enable play on VAC servers after x amount of years?

    As it currently stands, it does not matter if the game is 6-7 years old or 6 months old, it will still only ban you for that one third-party title that so happens to be protected by VAC.
    For example, say if DayZ had VAC (Does it?) and you hacked and got banned from it - You would still be able to run Rust and hack on that also. But your account is already flagged as simply 'VAC Banned'.
    Well, see, Valve used to do that. VAC originally was only a one-year ban.

    The rate of repeat offenders was sky high, so they increased it to five years.

    That didn't discourage people enough either, and that's why VAC is now permanent.

    If you hack in one game, your account is permanently branded with the Red Badge of Shame (VAC Bans: not zero), and many players treat that as a sign to not have anything to do with you.

    It also tells you the time since last ban, so you can look at someone's account and see that they were VAC banned, you know, four years ago, so they've probably learned their lesson, but if they were VAC banned two weeks ago, they're totally a cheater.

    If you insist on cheating on other VAC-protected games after you get VAC banned on one, Valve will happily VAC ban you every time they catch you. You can keep making new accounts and buying the game if you really want to, but you're just giving the publisher money for new copies of the same game. Most hackers don't have the money and patience to do this, but some really are so pathetic that they do.

    Valve doesn't care, they'll still ban someone for cheating regardless of what their backstory is.
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  14. Post #94
    iamn00bsry's Avatar
    December 2013
    115 Posts

    for what? I've never used any cheats, please understand!
    You hacked
    Deal with it!
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  15. Post #95

    February 2014
    2 Posts
    Hasn't this thread served its purpose?
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  16. Post #96
    eirexe's Avatar
    April 2011
    1,203 Posts
    Evidently someone doesn't understand what being VAC banned means...

    If you get VAC banned in TF2, You will be banned from ALL VAC-Protected servers, in ANY game.

    Let's just make that clear.
    You got caught out, you can pay for your mistakes. Enjoy.

    actually wasn't it only in the same engine?

    I mean cs 1.6 bans do not affect source games
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  17. Post #97
    Thravid's Avatar
    December 2013
    128 Posts
    Everyone is crying right now about how retarted and mean assholes Russians are. But you know what? Russians hate Americans for enough reasons to hack and destroy games.

    1. Americans always say Russians are stupid communists.

    2. Americans lough at Russians when they speak English

    3. Americans say Russians are gay

    4. In WW2 America take all honor for defeating the Germans. But it was Russia who defeated them and take over Berlin

    5. Americans always say Russia is poor

    6. Americans say Russia is corrupt

    7. Americans say Russians dont know English

    8. Americans always make games where they need to fight vs Russians, and mostly Russia loses.

    9. Americans say Russians are drunk idiots

    10 Americans name Russians Ruskies.


    There are hundreds of other reasons, why Russians hate Americans. And if you dont like Russians, you are screwed couse they are everywhere.
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  18. Post #98
    Zimph's Avatar
    January 2014
    57 Posts
    Everyone is crying right now about how retarted and mean assholes Russians are. But you know what? Russians hate Americans for enough reasons to hack and destroy games.

    There are hundreds of other reasons, why Russians hate Americans. And if you dont like Russians, you are screwed couse they are everywhere.
    Okay this really made me laugh so hard I feel like I need to post.

    1. Nobody really says this I don't know what you're talking about
    2. That's because Russian accents are badass
    3. Russians call Americans gay, point?
    4. The U.S.S.R. also turned East Germany into a shithole for the next 50 years
    5. Let's look at the Sochi Olympics and see what conclusions any Foreigner might draw from that.
    6. Americans say the United States is corrupt too, point?
    7. A lot of them kind of don't...
    8. What's wrong with this, boycott games made by all westerners where Russians are the bad guys
    9. Lol....
    10.So, you guys call us Yanks. What does it matter?
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  19. Post #99

    July 2013
    5 Posts
    i got banned for what?
    i was trying to make a server but the files was outdated :(
    and now am banned :(
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  20. Post #100
    i got banned for what?
    i was trying to make a server but the files was outdated :(
    and now am banned :(
    Did you download the outdated server?
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  21. Post #101

    July 2013
    5 Posts
    Did you download the outdated server?
    yea and now i'm banned:(
    some guy on tunngle gave me the files
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  22. Post #102
    yea and now i'm banned:(
    some guy on tunngle gave me the files
    Oh.

    .
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  23. Post #103

    February 2014
    150 Posts
    Everyone is crying right now about how retarted and mean assholes Russians are. But you know what? Russians hate Americans for enough reasons to hack and destroy games.

    1. Americans always say Russians are stupid communists.

    2. Americans lough at Russians when they speak English

    3. Americans say Russians are gay

    4. In WW2 America take all honor for defeating the Germans. But it was Russia who defeated them and take over Berlin

    5. Americans always say Russia is poor

    6. Americans say Russia is corrupt

    7. Americans say Russians dont know English

    8. Americans always make games where they need to fight vs Russians, and mostly Russia loses.

    9. Americans say Russians are drunk idiots

    10 Americans name Russians Ruskies.


    There are hundreds of other reasons, why Russians hate Americans. And if you dont like Russians, you are screwed couse they are everywhere.
    bahaha you make me laugh

    "if you dont like Russians, you are screwed couse they are everyhwere."

    i looked over my shoulder for a sneaking ruskie

    Edited:

    yea and now i'm banned:(
    some guy on tunngle gave me the files
    LOL!!
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  24. Post #104

    July 2013
    5 Posts
    any way to chat with a dev or garry?
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  25. Post #105

    December 2013
    35 Posts
    Rust has had multiple false positives though these usually get rectified.
    Citation needed.
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  26. Post #106
    any way to chat with a dev or garry?
    I'm not a mod, and I'm not saying this is going to happen to you, but typically garry permabans people who pirate Rust, it's not tolerated here at all.

    So you might be optimistic expecting to speak to him about getting unbanned, if that's what you want to talk about.
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  27. Post #107

    February 2014
    120 Posts
    any way to chat with a dev or garry?
    What good would speaking to a game dev do? A VAC ban is applied by Valve, not anyone affiliated with the game itself. And Valve will not lift a VAC ban under any circumstances.
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  28. Post #108

    July 2013
    5 Posts
    I'm not a mod, and I'm not saying this is going to happen to you, but typically garry permabans people who pirate Rust, it's not tolerated here at all.

    So you might be optimistic expecting to speak to him about getting unbanned, if that's what you want to talk about.
    what do you mean with pirate rust?
    I bought the game on steam
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  29. Post #109

    February 2014
    150 Posts
    what do you mean with pirate rust?
    I bought the game on steam
    cried the infamous swashbuckler cookiedk as they marched him to the gallows
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  30. Post #110
    what do you mean with pirate rust?
    I bought the game on steam
    You pirated the server though.

    What's your Steam ID or community profile URL? I'm not going to harass you or anything, it's for checking your status on the tools available.
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  32. Post #112
    Zimph's Avatar
    January 2014
    57 Posts
    I don't think the devs can clear that up for you buddy.
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  33. Post #113

    January 2014
    137 Posts
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?...599&p=43712675
    Also, take a look at the wikipedia entry for VAC. there have been, seriously, like zero false positives ever. The one time it happened, it was immediately rectified and everyone was given free stuff.

    Vac makes no mistakes. You will not be unbanned. You must purchase the game again to continue hacki-er, "playing."
    VAC DOES make mistakes, they're not public.

    OP Don't post stupid dribble posts here, send in a ticket to steam support, your ban probably won't be lifted so just buy the game again.

    VAC Is NOT perfect, they're not going to advertise their fuckups though, the only public situation happened with MW2 and that was because it was a MASS ban of innocent people. But please don't act like you KNOW when you don't.

    TLDR; OP Probably was hacking, changing your cfg won't get you banned otherwise I would be banned from every CS for messing with the cfg.
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  34. Post #114
    mav
    Gold Member
    mav's Avatar
    January 2014
    36 Posts
    OP has been found out and no where to be found afterwards. Thread continues...
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  35. Post #115
    jaberus's Avatar
    January 2014
    166 Posts
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?...599&p=43712675
    Also, take a look at the wikipedia entry for VAC. there have been, seriously, like zero false positives ever. The one time it happened, it was immediately rectified and everyone was given free stuff.

    Vac makes no mistakes. You will not be unbanned. You must purchase the game again to continue hacki-er, "playing."
    actually because this game is still in alpha, editing your config file counts as modifying your game. VaC considers any sort of modification client sided or server sided a cheat. It will ban for config usually in Alpha/Beta games.
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  36. Post #116
    VAC bans are controlled by Steam Support. You need to contact them. garry and the Rust devs cannot lift a VAC ban.

    Good luck.
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  37. Post #117
    jaberus's Avatar
    January 2014
    166 Posts
    VAC DOES make mistakes, they're not public.

    OP Don't post stupid dribble posts here, send in a ticket to steam support, your ban probably won't be lifted so just buy the game again.

    VAC Is NOT perfect, they're not going to advertise their fuckups though, the only public situation happened with MW2 and that was because it was a MASS ban of innocent people. But please don't act like you KNOW when you don't.

    TLDR; OP Probably was hacking, changing your cfg won't get you banned otherwise I would be banned from every CS for messing with the cfg.
    Steam Tickets don't do anything.
    they just Copy and Paste
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  38. Post #118
    actually because this game is still in alpha, editing your config file counts as modifying your game. VaC considers any sort of modification client sided or server sided a cheat. It will ban for config usually in Alpha/Beta games.
    Modern Warfare 2 and 3 VAC you for all file modifications EXCEPT for config changes, and those two titles are by far the most restrictive so far.

    Learn how VAC works before posting. You're talking misinformation.
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  39. Post #119
    SandTiger's Avatar
    January 2014
    33 Posts
    Really enjoying this thread, as a simple gamer that has no insight into using scripts to cheat.

    A few things spring to mind, mainly by observing those that will round on someone who has been VAC banned...

    A) Are we all comfortable that everyone 'caught' by VAC is a cheater? VAC's stated record on false positives seems about as likely as pissing in the wind.

    B) If VAC is so good then why do we see the continual posts about script kiddies exploiting the game?

    Edited:

    actually because this game is still in alpha, editing your config file counts as modifying your game. VaC considers any sort of modification client sided or server sided a cheat. It will ban for config usually in Alpha/Beta games.
    Source?
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  40. Post #120
    Stay Rusty
    postal's Avatar
    April 2005
    13,125 Posts

    B) If VAC is so good then why do we see the continual posts about script kiddies exploiting the game?
    Because VAC isn't instant. It takes a fair while for it to process a ban.
    actually because this game is still in alpha, editing your config file counts as modifying your game. VaC considers any sort of modification client sided or server sided a cheat. It will ban for config usually in Alpha/Beta games.
    Um no lol. Server side shit will not get you VAC'd, nor will messing with config settings.
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