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Post #41
Maps, It's a feature that was not put into the game to probably encourage exploration and add fun to the game. Why should you have an advantage over everyone else on the server who isn't running a map overlay.
Mods for the game should effect everyone on the server in the same way, not give you the advantage.
It's a cheat, therefore you are a cheat for using it and got banned correctly.
Sure people can just load up a web browser and have the map there, but it's not in game so nothing they can do about it.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but that's incorrect.
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That's where it's becoming tricky. Garry is the one deciding whether it's a hack or not. His statement has always been what I've asked in the second post. If it's a hack, you will be banned. So, if you want to be safe, don't use any modifications.
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That isnt always very accurate, ie http://www.mpgh.net/forum/members/143920-sio.html.
I don't own that account, people use the same name online.
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I'd assume it wouldn't be allowed. Due to the fact that you need to use an .exe whilst using Rust in windowed mode usually indicates that the software has to inject itself into rust, which will most likely be considered a "hack".
Other than that, there is no map in rust. Suddenly having one would mean having an advantage over a player unfamiliar with the place, and having no map at all.
Just my opinion. I'd refrain from using it.
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Well, the whole "window = inject" part is bullshit :P
You see, if you inject something, you don't have to run it windowed. The reason (most likely) that it requires to be ran in windowed mode is due to it rendering a transparent program on top of rust.
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I dont even know why you guys are still arguing about this. This is CLEARLY a hack in some way and will get you banned + vac banned.
There's no such thing as "legal map overlay". Why would you need a map overlay anyway ? The only thing i think it would be nice in rust is a craftable compass and that's all.
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People complaining about lack of map havent played the game longer than a day or build a base in one spot and never venture out. Even on 200+ server there are ways exploring the map - naked suicide runs are the best.
Or play this game to learn the map - suicide, respawn away from sleeping bag and try to find your way back to base. After few tries you'll have map in your head that is better than any overlay.
For those without sense of directions - do as johnny says: use steam overlay web browser, go to map of you choice - you have overlay map without risk of VAC ban.
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I disagree... An "advantage" would be having access, and using something others do not. This is available to anyone, and is not limited to anyone to use. The argument could be made that it is accessible to everyone, if you don't want to use it, you don't have to, but why punish the people that might want to use it?
What's the difference from me loading up a web browser on a second screen with a map that I don't have to tab out to see?
Where did it state anywhere that anyone has gotten banned for using it? The OP is either the developer or part of the team that developed this (lookup user mf2888, same person) So his credibility takes a hit there, posing as someone else, I'm sure there is a rule about that somewhere....
I personally don't need it, I have played long enough that I know where I am 90% of the time, but what advantage is it really if it was allowed. This is another case of people trying to tell other people how to play the game, or how they think it should be played. Until the devs chime in on this, nobody elses opinions on if it's legal or not matters. I think they should allow us to create maps in-game really, but that's just me.
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between 250-300 hours on rust and i learnt the map off by heart in about 80-100 hours of the game. its not hard, or massively big.
There is no need for a map over or even risk getting banned for it. Why risk it?
Im sure you can load it up in steam community web browser and just shift tab to see it, why do u need to mess with the game?
Which kid does not have a phone or a ipad now a days? load it on that while you play.
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you would be better off joining an oxide server running rustnuts.com location plugin gives realtime map location
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I don't think being registered to a hack site automatically makes someone guilty. I've browsed those sites (though I can't remember if I registered or not) just to educate myself on what hacks are out there. Sometimes I don't know if there's something legitimate in the game I don't know about or if it's people cheating. I've discovered people are cheating before by seeing what hacks are available on these sites. For example, "Why was I just head shotted when I know there was nobody in sight anywhere near me and there's not even any cover for someone to hide in? Was someone cheating or is there a weapon mod or something I'm not aware of?" Turns out there are invis and aim hacks. Now I know.
That said I think false positives on the VAC and cheat punch bans seem to be extremely rare so 99% of these people claiming unfair bans are full of shit.
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You're better off using Steam's web browser while at the In-Game Community screen and just go to a website that has rust maps.
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u cheated nuff said, gtfo noob
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Map overlay pretty much is a cheat
you're meant to do that part manually / by memory.
unless its no different than a 2nd monitor with an image then whatever nothing anyone can do.
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What post were you reading? He asked a legit question about a tool to use with Rust, nowhere did he mention using cheats, or getting banned... He asked if it was possible.... Reading comprehension is a good thing......
Not being confrontational honest question though, where did you get that from? If it was explicitly mentioned by Gerry, or any other admin/dev I would like to see it.
I use two monitors (sometimes three), so does that mean I cheat?
Many of these comments on this thread are bashing the OP because "that isn't the way I do it, you HAVE to play like I want it played"..... Interesting considering this is a sandbox game, you are supposed to have some freedom to play how you see fit in a sandbox game. For that matter all mods should be considered cheats since they do alter the game, the GUI, and features..... That is all this is, an additional feature.
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how is this "an additional feature"
does it work any more than an image and inject itself into a game?
besides that a map overlay is hard to decide if it's a cheat or not. It's not nearly as bad as antirecoil but it's on the border almost
and mods are completely different. This lets you travel without having to remember anything, giving you a huge advantage over navigating over everyone else without having to learn anything.
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I had no idea people used my map like this.
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they could also just remember where shit is and not stray too far
if they need a map while in game they clearly have no idea what to do.
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Even with the map I sometimes can't identify where I am.
It's much easier going for a run and spotting a landmark.
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I don't see how it can be considered an advantage when it is available to everyone with no restrictions. An advantage would be if it were only available for a select number of people....
I do agree, it is a very grey area and until we get an official confirmation we won't know. Like I have said, I don't need it, or use it... But I can see the value in it. I have also stated before I would rather they add in mapmaking to the game, similar to Minecraft.... With the proper materials you can draw a crude map yourself, nothing fancy, but with landmarks and such....
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How is this any different than someone having a second monitor open with an interactive map pulled up?
What you're saying here is that everyone should play the game the way you want it played.
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So I'm not the only one that sees this mentality floating around ;) ;)
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So are a lot of things
this really falls under "sticker for a crosshair", "changing gama on monitor" etc in the end. Minor as fuck and no one can do anything
can you even like read
and I'm not even seeing how I'm saying that, but I'm not being cynical like yourself. I'm not even saying if it's a cheat or not.
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I completely agree, but the difference is that this is an application running on your computer, so it could be detected. My advise does mirror many others though, I wouldn't risk it. $20 isn't much, but it's $20 ;)
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VAC only really detects injections so if it injects anything he's fucked
doesn't look like it though. Not like anyone can really be banned for stickers or crosshair overlays
at first I thought it'd track his location, but, I do guess it does give the disadvantage of distraction
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I'm lost here.
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By your posts in this thread, 'it's available to everyone, it's not a person's fault for using it while other people don't' means that all downloadable hacks shouldn't be banned, because if someone's playing rust, they have money+internet so the freehacks, plus ones you pay for, are available to everyone. So it's fair GAME! Sorry, just had to point out the logic in that line of thinking.
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There have been a few times when I am gathering resources at night and it hits that 7-8 minute window where everything is pitch black and I get disorientated, expecially if I have to run for better position to kill something/someone... I open a map on my second screen to see where I may be... I prefer that over covering my screen with a map anyway, I can still see (relative term in the dark) what is going on around me....
I can see someone opening up the overlay map and getting ganked while looking at it, same thing happens when people Alt+Tab out ;)
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I apologize, I was counting on at least a little bit of common sence...... There is a HUGE difference between noclip/aimbot/godmode/flying hacks, and an overlay map... The hacks you speak of directly influence gameplay, and interaction with other players.... I honestly don't see how an overlay map could do the same?
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he means that it has no restrictions as well, as in, absolutely nothing stopping one from using it.
Sure, anyone can download an aimbot. But that has restrictions, this does not. I know "anyone can download it" isn't totally an argument but that's not what he meant.
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Hello, I am the creator of this tool. This tool doesn't inject something into any executeable or other files. You can check it it is open source. It uses some windows functions to swap between the windows thats why you need to run it in window mode. I don't see why VAC should ban you but of course I can't guarantee it that it doesn't ban you. So use it at your own risk.
And I don't post as anyone else here, why should I?
Also there is no map included in the zip file you have to download one yourself.
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