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Might be helpful: I've never been hit by this bug, after I heard about it I figured it was something to do with colliding into the next model while it spawns and I just stay as far away as possible while gathering. Crouching or standing, no difference, just as far away as possible (crouching is actually better for this). Haven't played on a fall damage off server since the patch either.
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not trying to single you out specifically, but more to illustrate the point of this thread isn't to tell people how to avoid this bug, but more on how to reproduce it reliably so the devs can fix it :)
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When the resource stage starts breaking down they start to clip into the player only if they are standing at the range (in which it is on top or near the bottom when crouching). What I suggest is when the resources start to break down they need to be small and not expand in a width as well as that is it possible to create a small invisible barrier that is on top so then when the player is getting resources on top they will be held back by a small barrier that is hard to notice. This is like when I accidentally get stuck within a wooden barrier and some boxes, they would bug out and let me clip through them until I die.
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its easy to reproduce, when you hit a rock it changes its model and becomes smaller or whatever, stand on top of it and when it changes model you'll die
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I have died 2 times from it, once from wood and the other time a rock. (cant remmber the color of the rock if it matters) I found if your standing still and gathering the wood or rock it will kill you. but since then I have been running around it while gathering and I havent died since.
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Hey guys!
This has happeend to me several times on my stream. I can probably produce a highlight for you and upload it YouTube if it helps.
I'll just be swinging my rock or hatchet to gather some wood or ore, and all of a sudden I fall to the side and die. It's usually once the ore or woodpile has broken down at least 2 times (it's never the first swing).
I get the "you killed yourself, you silly sod" message when it happens, and a sense of disappointment to boot.
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nope and i gathered a lot in the last days since the patch came out.
i am always aware and try to stay in max range while hatching.
i think this "bug" only happens if you hug the woodpile or stone while gathering, then it can kill you in close range when it changes its form.
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I see a lot of people saying it happens when crouching. I disagree. I gather resources a lot. I'm medically housebound and have really been taken by this game, so play it about 14-16 hours a day. TV is shit these days.
This happens roughly 5-6 times a day, and mostly in a short amount of time. By that, I mean I can gather for 6 hours, build a couple hours, go back out and then I'll die 4/5 times in a half hour. Rarely does it happen in single isolated incidences for me. Though, occasionally so. I've spent a days now trying to see if one area is more prone to it than another, or whether total play time has an affect, no pattern as yet. From Hacker Valley North, through to South and back, I've died a maximum of 7 times. Each time running back to collect my stuff and continuing. Never happened until the resource change. I have found standing too close is the most obvious culprit, and in fact crouching reduces my daily death total. Tested daily since the change.
Edited for spelling.
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It's happened to me 4x with both rocks and wood piles. Everytime i was crouched and very close
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It happened for me sometime when I moved onto the woodpile or the rock while harvesting it (standing or crouching).
When I stay at max range it never happened.
I also had the same bug twice while I was running against my Workbench (it stood on a metal foundation), I got onto it without jumping and then I died from falling damage (haven't touched it with a pickaxe or a hatchet).
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this can also happen on big storage boxes, obviously every object!
just dont hug everything and honestly why do people even stand on piles or stones to gather? just dumb
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This is not limited to harvesting nodes only. 2 days ago my character broke his leg while standing still inside his house while eating a cooked chicken. The moment I hit Eat his legs broke.
Yesterday evening while crouching as far away as possible from a wood stack he died ... the only thing noticeable was that (on UK 2) he kept standing up despite me continously pressing the crouch key. Other than that it feels slightly random.
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It's got to be a collider problem for sure. When you instantiate a smaller node, the collider will suddenly change and exert an artifact physics response (remember there is jitter on the collider minimum range). Sometimes it flings you in the air, other times into the ground. I would suggest adding 100% drag to the player object for a moment before and during node instantiation changes. Hopefully this counteracts any unwanted instant transform force.
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It happened about 2 times whit a friend of mine. But none whit me.
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I think it happens more if your standing on top of the stone / wood pile and gather it
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When I first tried to gather a woodpile with my pickaxe I died instantly while standing up in front of the pile when it just collapsed. From than on I tried to crouch and use a hatchet, that worked fine untill one time I got hit again with 20-25 hp (dunno exactly) while being crouched gathering a woodpile with my hatchet.
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Yes, happened to me and my brother as well while playing together (same session, different times). My death occured via woodpile. I believe it resulted from standing/crouching too close as it "poofed" down to the next level while being looted. It killed me from full HP and counted as a suicide.
Does it possibly occur from registering "fall damage" if you are standing on top of a woodpile, harvesting, as it degrades to the smaller form?
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twice wounded, twice dead and twice scratch my character jumps high and falling breaks legs.
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When wearing full kevlar, u can survive it and just get to ~15hp with bleeding and injured. I think it has to do with the clipping into the player when a new model appears/spawns(?)!
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Happens to me like one in every 100 or so resource nodes. doesnt matter if im standing on it, crouched near it, jumping, standing, it still happens. ive made sure i was the max distance and still died. i lose more loot to woodpiles than people ATM.
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its only happened to me once, and before it happened i felt like it was going to happen on this node, let me explain why:
the node was RIGHT up against a rock(actual rock not a node)
and I was sandwiched between the node and the rock, almost like i had to crouch into the crack between the two (i was doing so because there were battles going on around the corner)
on the first or 2nd break animation of the node it killed me. it seemed sort of intuitive as i mentioned in the beginning, because the falling/crumbling of the node would have been crumbling on top of me.
it seemed to have nothing to do with fall damage but rather the rocks fell ontop of me
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@ Helk.
We have 100+ users online constantly and a few do experience this error, not all though. I've disabled fall damage and that seems to not allow them to die.
If you also stand on wooden boxes sometimes they throw you up in the air.
No error code comes up though.
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It has happened to me twice, can't reproduce. My buddy who spends a lot of time gathering resources has had this happened a bunch of times. Can't point to any specific condition that needs to be met for it to happen, seems entirely random.
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This issue has been moved to "Next Version" on the Rust TRELLO board. This means is should be resolved with the next patch.
https://trello.com/c/ZOUIkTlI/272-ha...-model-changes
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It's only happen 3 times for me and the only connection is that it was in the middle of harvesting wood or stone.
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I was scared that i would die by it and lose all by stuff but for the past 10 hours crouching and standing when harvesting i havnt died once so i dont know but i did see someone die from in along with another bug i know which is when your next to a gate and you open it you will fly into the sky till you hit the top of the map and get kicked then fall back down which is a problem cause i think the new cheatpunch thing will ban people for this but i might be wrong.
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Never happened to me:3, would it be possible to create the woodpile monster i've heard about?
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I have only witnessed it once. I think it has to do with using a hatchet and standing on the corner of the resource. It has not happened to me yet. It kills the person, they drop their backpack
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Stand on top of the rock pile, look down and when the rock changes animations it happens. Thats the best way to reproduce it.
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What is dumb is every post you have on this forum.
For the OP and the actual thing being discussed which is a bug they are seeking to fix, yes it happens to me regardless of crouching or being on the resource node. As others have stated it seems to happen when you are too close and since I do not like to gather in a fixed position I fall prey to this bug a couple of times every 4 hours or so.
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cute
strange that it never happened to me! must be luck right or maybe playing AND using my brain
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This happened to me once. I stepped onto a resource while I was harvesting it, and then suddenly I was flung up into the sky. Only broke my leg, but it was hilarious.
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It only happened to me when I stood on it. I took 50% fall damage and once got killed.
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It's happened to me twice, in a LOT of gatherings. So it's pretty rare. I've never died from it either. Both times It took roughly 75% health and "injured me". I play on full graphics settings on a private server running oxide with several mods (none that I can think of should effect the resources but I can list them if needed).
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[REDACTED] In the interest of this thread, I'll keep my responses useful.
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*Ahem*...^^^^^^^^^^
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I died yesterday gathering stone with a pickaxe ... I crouched to reach the lower stone then i died :(
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Why is it stupid to stand close to the resource node though? I get that as a work around for the current bug I should (and did) change how I gather resources but it is not stupid to stand on the nodes, hug the node, or any other way of gathering resources. In fact it is inefficient and dangerous to sit too far to consistently hit the node and not move since you are increasing the amount of time spent gathering and making yourself an easy target. It is a bug and not a feature troll, so it is not stupid to fall prey to an unintended bug in the game.
I would never accuse you of using your brain.
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I haven't been killed ONCE while standing and harvesting a resource, right next to it, all up in it. Crouch-harvest? Bam! Dead.
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Helk, although this has never happened to me, I believe the problem might actually be due to the new swinging animation of melee weapons. There is a bug where if someone is behind a wall and you get very close to them and look the opposite way, you can hit them with your melee swing. I assume this is due to the new swing animation going behind the persons head, effectively hitting them from behind. Could it also be possible at certain angles (looking towards the ground like you would mining a node) also cause you to hit yourself with your own weapon? I only say this because people state kevlar absorbs some of the damage, which wouldnt make sense if it was just a clipping/kill issue.
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