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If the censor filter is turned off, everyone starts as a naked man with a modeled flaccid penis.
We're already 33% of the way there.
BRING ON THE POSEBALLS
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Contact loverslab, STAT!
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Yet another suggestion to "carebear" the game up, ridiculous.
Look pal, I'm going to be forward about this, I suggest you take note:
Sandboxes aren't for everyone, especially sandboxes with full player looting. You need to accept that this isn't your cup of tea and move on, rather than trying to make the game into something it was never intended to be, solely due to your own selfish desires.
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You're using that term wrong.
Carebear refers to a non-pvp environment.
Preventing offline base raiding but still supporting direct raiding is the exact opposite.
If anything, encouraging offline PVE base raiding is carebear.
You're more of a carebear than the OP is.
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Easy, Add a 25% chance of the C4 going on when crafted.
Then add a 10% chance of it going off instantly while placing it.
Raiders go boom the more they raid!
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So you think it's weird someone had enough C4 to blow up your place, but it's not weird that you were able to build 50+ walls and 40+ metal doors, among other things, 3 days after a wipe?
Something fishy here.
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Not only that but wtf is someone supposed to do?
Wait around for the OP and his crew for three days and wait for them to come back when it's convenient for them?
Should they also ask them first before they raid?
If everybody is online at the same time, yet the OP's crew is out doing something elsewhere on the map, should they wait around for them to return, enter their base, then knock politely and ask if the OP's team is ready to be raided?
What a crock of sh*t
If you get raided while offline, guess what? It happens to everybody all the time, it's a part of the damn game. Do it back to the ones you suspect raided you.
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It doesn't matter where the server is based, people will join from all timezones in the world.. someone is always sleeping, and someone is always playing.. no way to stop this (unless restrict based on IP or ping),but even then you have some people who work and others that don't.
Build better bases, play smarter, take the knocks when they come and don't cry about it.
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Totally agree with OP. I love games that are hard and challenging (for example, I have a big love for Dark Souls - never cried once!), but I have little time for them. The fact that I don't have as much time to gather resources and develop my base compared to many other players is enough of a disadvantage. I don't need players being able to pretty much "delete my save game" while I'm away on top of that. This is not the kind of challenge that feels right.
Indestructible buildings of players that are offline can be treated as some sort of decoration (also could be gently marked for gameplay reasons).
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THIS!
@OP
what do you think this game is about? do you think this is a wood chopping simulator?
the Rust world is online 24/7. if you aren't there, it's your own fkin problem. wtf is wrong with some of you guys?
if you are not able to spend so much time with a game, then just quit it and play a game which is round based (BF4, COD or whatever else you want).
Rust is somewhat like WoW as a first person shooter. it consumes much time and those with more time will win the race. you can't compete with someone who is online
10 hours per day while you are online 1-2 hours every other day.
this is not unfair, its the opposite. why should you be in a better position or the same level as someone
who puts a lot of more effort and time into the game? you shouldn't!!!!!
you just show us that you don't comprehend and that this game is nothing for you! just quit it!
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If bases were made indestructible, people would exploit it. I'm pretty sure if the OP's group of 12 was being raided, they'd all log off to make their bases immune. Besides, aren't there enough buildings littering the map? Imagine how many there would be if some could be made immune? You'd have people building little indestructible one room bases around the pallets in rad town.
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finally some voice of reason..
if you play casually than play on servers which are pve or with just rare c4 and uncraftable explosives..
than you really need just few floors, and some 10 doors and you are almost perfect safe..
raiding is stealing, and nobody steals when you are at home..
raiding when players are online is basically just for fun, and for intensive battle if defenders have ways to go outside the house..
and stop bitching for "unraidable" bases.. how you cannot see that that cannot work and it would take all fun from game..
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I do agree in that currently 95% of PvP happens when one player is offline. That is not good PvP (or by definition, PvP at all). Offline does add an element of danger, which is great, but healthy PvP involves both players actually participating. We need to see how we can balance it out.
Un-raidable bases is not the answer, but there should be better power scaling. Right now it's completely flat (nothing, wood shelter, wood door) and spikes to hard (C4, 50 metal doors). There should be more gradual increase.
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They have already stated they will be implementing ways to increase base defense, including when offline. My guess is once traps and such are added if your inventive you will have a better chance of your base lasting the night.
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If you can't deal with it, play something else.
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Talk about a broken record..... "Welcome to the Rust Forum, if you can't stop repeating yourself don't post."
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I don't think it's weird at all. We are the largest group on the server (unless people join forces together). Metal doors are only 200 metal fragments. Furthermore, one day alone I personally got two air drops which included 4 metal doors and a bunch of wood parts. Like I said, it wasn't just 1 base, it was 4 bases. My base was the smallest of the three and I went through and counted all the blown walls and doors. The others in the group did the same. And that's assuming the wood walls that were blown only took 1 c4. In my personal room, the door AND the doorway were blown. I didn't even realize you could blow down doorways. Making metal doors doesn't require many resources at all. Gunpowder does.
But again that's not the point. Breaking into someone's house while they're offline is easy and cheap. It requires no planning except checking the Steam Players list. It requires no risk.
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Yes, and all the well-known major heists and special forces raids in the past were also done in broad daylight, making sure that the adversaries were well-prepared for them... NOT!
Grow a backbone and spread your loot around dispersed bases, not all in one place like a noob.
Sheesh!
Also, the "130 C4" claim is either BS, or admins "gifting" to their buds. Regardless, dispersed (read distant) storage would help. FYI, some of our bases are a full 6-minute run to the northern-most extent of the loop-road. The vast majority of players simply don't have the patience to explore that far away from the central area.
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Who the hell would want a base that's a 6 minute run to populated areas?? Probably the same people that only want to raid while their opponents are offline.
FYI, our group's loot was spread between 4 bases (like I've stated numerous times); however, all four bases were raided from top to bottom while everyone was asleep.
Also, to a previous comment comparing raiding in real life to a game, what a ridiculous assertion. To claim that people "raid" houses in real life while people are "away" just proves my complaint even more. I hate comparing games to real life, but since it's been done I'll use your argument against you. If our group was raided while we were "away" (gathering resources, raiding others..etc.) that would be perfectly fine. To be raided while "asleep", one would wake up in real life............so where were you going with that argument?
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ok, that's true..
but then if you are comparing, then it's similar to when all family is out the house.. which is in some houses for half a day every day.. (kids at school, parents at work).. or just one couple living together, they are away from house huge amount of time..
so i made paralel because raiding is like burglars irl enter your home and steal what they can..
raiding when players are online is complete different story..
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What you need to do is find a server that slightly limits the ammount of c4 and build a decent house, most people wont spend more than 15 c4 on one house so you need like 9 metal doors, also dont be stupid and put your chests on the outside rooms of your house or on the bottom floor make sure they are about in the middle of the top floor
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@OP and anyone with problems with offline raiding
Seriously I don't even understand what the issue is here, if you have such an issue with it just join server that does the following
1.) C4 & or Explosives are find only, can't be crafted
2.) Flares cannot be crafted and can only be found. Since C4 requires flares to be made even just restricting this and making the drop ratios lower on it can hamper the c4 creation a lot
3.) If you don't like any of the MANY options people have modded in to cater to the different play styles, thank you for your contribution to Rust and we hate to see you leave but we love to watch you walk away :)
I for one like building a really secure base and every time someone finds a way to raid it, I learn something and build it better next time. I don't see where the problem is.
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11th February 2014 Last edited by lockdown45; 11th February 2014 at 04:44PM. (because its stupid)
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The forums are not real life. I can't describe the irony of you ripping on someone else. The base mechanics of raiding at the moment are fine aside from the stuff that can be done with boxes and barricades. Maybe more hits on structures could help while leaving it the same idea.
If you think about it the only factor is the time vs return. The more people the more stuff is possible. I do agree 130 c4 sounds a little outlandish and I can't really see the reason to waste that much resources even for the return. But shouldn't you be capable of the same feats with those kind of numbers? Maybe since your group is big they wanted to send a message. Think about it, bigger targets stick out a lot more and it sounds like the base was formidable. Another group probably just wanted to prove it can be done.
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Sounds like you guys made enemies. You keep calling others pussies but you guys roll 12 deep and think you are super leet and then are surprised that other players on the server might want to mess with your group while you are offline.
Your idea of making unraidable bases is awful, hide your base better and stop getting into fights right next to your base making it easy to find out where you are located. I only shoot people who can see my base when they are attempting to raid, otherwise I know they will eventually come back and raid the base while I am offline. If I had two buddies on your server and I watched a group of 12 murdering people the only way to seek retribution would be to raid while they were offline.
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Care to tell me I'm wrong in any of those statements? Or are you just shitposting?
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Well they can do some stuff like stronger walls when people are offline ( 1 more c4 for each structure something like this ) I played about 200 hours and never got raided when I was online it's pretty dumb in my opinion :(
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I recommend living in the middle of nowhere, a 5-10 minute run from society. Or keep someone online 24/7 who has your cell phone number and can text you... That's what me and my crew did when the game first hit and we wanted to protect our houses.
People will play this game 24/7, 120 c4 in 3 days isn't really that bad to be honest.
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Raiding while people are online should of a server feature option...
Hardcore server/normal or something...but yeah people really go all out on a server and play as if they have no life... playing at like 5am or something...
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Or servers that you can only get it from supply drop and rarely from Mutants.
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cant work out how to delete my post, i posted in wrong thread sorry.
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