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My Steam account: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028545603
My SteamID: STEAM_0:1:34139937
This thread is going to be an appeal for my sudden VAC ban from Rust.
I restarted my Steam today because I noticed there was an update for Rust and I tried joining my server with all of my buds and I got this message in my console.
I am not sure why I was VAC Banned, I have not cheated on my Steam account since I have created it.
This ban is very undeserved.
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I don't see how posting in this forum would help any bans, you would have to contact Steam.
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If the VAC ban was given under false accusation it will dissapear within 24 hours and that is the only time a VAC ban is removed. Also facepunch has nothing to do with VAC ban, as the name states its run by Valve. So you should buy a new game tomorrowMy Steam account: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028545603
My SteamID: STEAM_0:1:34139937
This thread is going to be an appeal for my sudden VAC ban from Rust.
I restarted my Steam today because I noticed there was an update for Rust and I tried joining my server with all of my buds and I got this message in my console.
I am not sure why I was VAC Banned, I have not cheated on my Steam account since I have created it.
This ban is very undeserved.
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Contact steam support. A friend of mine got banned a few weeks ago for no reason, and by now already unbanned.My Steam account: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028545603
My SteamID: STEAM_0:1:34139937
This thread is going to be an appeal for my sudden VAC ban from Rust.
I restarted my Steam today because I noticed there was an update for Rust and I tried joining my server with all of my buds and I got this message in my console.
I am not sure why I was VAC Banned, I have not cheated on my Steam account since I have created it.
This ban is very undeserved.
Possible reason :-
1. Flagged due to frequent desync and facepunch violation kicking stuff.
2. Razer Comms / Raidcall overlay
Unless, you really cheated.. you know the drill.
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Considering you're not just some new member that just joined to complain about a deserved VAC ban, I'm actually interested to see what the cause of this VAC was. You don't seem like the kind of guy that would cheat.
If there is a legitimate problem with Rust that is causing VAC to falsely ban someone, it needs attention here as well.
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November 2007
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is this post like, a parody? cmon man you've had just over two years here you should know betterMy Steam account: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028545603
My SteamID: STEAM_0:1:34139937
This thread is going to be an appeal for my sudden VAC ban from Rust.
I restarted my Steam today because I noticed there was an update for Rust and I tried joining my server with all of my buds and I got this message in my console.
I am not sure why I was VAC Banned, I have not cheated on my Steam account since I have created it.
This ban is very undeserved.
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It must be! Who the hell double stacks their menu bar?
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maybe the real owner sold his FP account to this new parody guy. Just maybe. :)
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I assumed that the Mods would be able to help me out since Facepunch owns Rust..
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VAC does not give a shit about this. At all. It isn't even paying attention to this.
Facepunch doesn't own or run VAC, though, and that is what banned you. Appeal to Steam Support. If it's a mistake, they'll unban you.
And if that does happen, post the screenshot here, because it'll be the first reported false-positive VAC ban for Rust.
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Start a Steam support ticket.
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I honestly think this is a false ban, the guy has so many hours on GMOD I'd really doubt he'd cheat to ruin his rep for some game in alpha. Also he's Canadian so even less likely.
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The thread isn't going to do anything. Facepunch has basically no authority over VAC bans.
VAC is generally good at not falsely banning people, but since RUST is in alpha and does have some mad glitches and auth problems every once in a while, I can see it happening.
Also, some old folks around here seem to know you from around, and well... you're canadian. So if you didn't hack, go through the proper support channels and you'll be cleared i'm sure.
Unless you did hack (and i'm not saying you did)... in that case the battle is lost, man.
Anyway, if you did nothing wrong I'm sure they'll clear that up for you, don't sweat it too much.
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I'm not saying it means anything but there is someone named brandonj4 with a user account on the "GAmEhAcKbAsTaRdS" Website/Forum, who has been active in at least the past couple months.
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If it doesn't mean anything, don't post it.
These witch hunts are getting disgusting.
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I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything either. "brandonj4" doesn't exactly strike me as a very common player name so I'd have to rate the likelihood that it's some "different" brandonj4 as pretty low. So, someone named "brandonj4" has been recently active on a website dedicated to game hacking...well...Put 2 and 2 together...
I didn't say it was definitive proof, just pointing it out.
I'd hardly call a quick google of a player name, a "witch hunt." I'm not like trying to dig up this guy's facebook account or anything.
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why not PM them then?
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it's more common than you think I believe
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TBH, that might be me but that was maybe 5 years ago. That was way back when War Rock was cool and a massive hacker fest, and it probably still is.
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Mm, I posted a thread regarding my friend's VAC ban in the last wave a couple of hours ago.
He also uses RC Overlay, I'm interested to find out the outcome of this appeal.
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yeah just be careful with Razer Comms, Raidcall and other overlay, sometimes it fuck up VAC. I know Steam already stated that VAC will not ban overlay, but they didn't state it very clearly, which overlay is acceptable and which is not. And as for right now, I have 4 overlay running on for more than a month. Razer Comms, Raidcall, Raptr and of course Steam Overlay.
brandonj4, just contact steam and report your status here :)
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Overlays wont make you get banned at all. VAC does not work with WHITELIST. Vac works with BLACKLIST. I'm 200% positive that raidcall,teamseak or razercom is not blacklisted. They even use raidcall overlay on counter strike tournament as they are mostly sponsored by raidcall.
VAC wont get you banned for having somenthing on your pc either. They will only vac ban you if you launch somenthing blacklisted or messed with the game in some way.
You also will not get banned for glitchs + violation bug/crash.
Either way you did somenthing wrong. However i find hard to believe you actually had the intention to do it.
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you hacked, you got caught, you got banned, simples
also strange how all the gold members are nice to yourself but toxic to the players in the many other van ban threads
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Has less to do with gold member status, and more to do with his time on the forums. Most of the people who were claiming false VAC bans were using accounts made the month in which they posted. While this doesn't necessarily mean they were lying, it is pretty well-known that hackers are encouraged to make forum posts claiming false VAC bans to stir up confusion among the community - I believe screenshots have been posted on either this forum or reddit, which show the hacker forums. Not to mention, many of them were caught with accounts under the same name in various hack forums and websites where the hacks are sold/given.
As for the VAC ban, assuming you aren't hacking (and I really hope you're not), there are several POSSIBLE things that have been reported as resulting in VAC bans. Last time I caught a lot of heat, despite saying what I'm about to say, so I'll try to make it more noticeable. These are things that people have SAID caused VAC bans on reddit/FP/steam forums, and are not necessarily or even likely true. All of it is hearsay.
1) Overlays - particularly mumble and raidcall overlays, have been a claimed source of VAC bans.
2) Using a third party program for gamma - This doesn't include your videocard drivers or control panel gamma, but rather a third party program such as gamma-x.
3) Speedhack/violation kicks - this one has been the source of much contention. Some say a lot of kicks will be logged in VAC and result in a ban at some point, others have said the two are completely unconnected. I've gotten my fair share of these, especially between the time period where they fixed the door glitch (where you could stand in a door) and where they fixed the doors making you loop infinitely until a kick when you walked through them too soon after closing them. I also got quite a few while TP'ing as an admin. No VAC ban. Doesn't mean it can't happen, but I'm disinclined to believe this one.
4) Using hacks for any other game while rust is open.
Realistically, VAC rarely has false positives. They have occurred on several occasions, however, so it's not completely fool-proof, but it has proven to be by far the most accurate and precise anti-hack program out there.
To anyone out there afraid of a false positive, you shouldn't worry too much, but generally avoid the things listed above (as well as hacking, obviously) if you are extremely worried about it.
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As I said, these are things that people have claimed led to VAC bans, not that they definitely did.
To that end, can you definitively prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that these cannot cause a VAC ban, ever, and never have?
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Good luck convincing anyone of that.
VAC is completely, 10000% fool-proof according to everyone here.
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vac can also catch overlayed "tools" IF its an external esp (which only reads) for example, this already happened so get your facts right first before spreading false informations!
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The fact overlays in no way, shape or form interact with game files.
The fact that the movement desync has been around for a considerable time and neither myself, my admins, or players affected by it have been VAC banned.
Uh huh. Name the 'tool' that's being detected.
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And yet, users reported it happening here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/com...erlaysvac_ban/
VAC actively scans ram as well as game files - something does not need to inject to be detected.
Your second piece of "proof" is fully anecdotal. No one I know has been killed in a car accident while driving a volvo. Ergo, it is impossible for anyone to ever die when driving a volvo.
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get lost, you dont even know how vac works...
it was the external esp from by sph4ck (it only reads memory and doesnt write anything) but i doubt that you even know how such things works
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Why not reference Wikipedia to support your claim while you are at it?
The 'I was only using an Overlay' excuse is an old one. Unless VAC has recently taken after PunkBuster, it's the usual bullshit to try and hide their guilt.
I play with several large communities as well as running my own server. I have only come across ONE VAC ban among those communities. That person admitted to using programs that modified the .dll's.
So NOT a true, benign overlay. What a surprise.
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well you should get a ban for that
"So i've been camping on the forums of Rust for a while now and people have been getting banned for using a Crosshair overlay."
The game is not designed to have a crosshair so you are cheating by using a overlay to get one. YOU ARE MODIFYING THE GAME.
None the less the violation kicks will not get you banned. The reason you get kicked is because the server has its own anti cheat protection. you can enable or disable it easily in your server config. it detects the slightest fast movement and kicks the player i.e glitching in the doors, closing it to fast as your running through. But this protection is different to that of VAC.
False positives are a thing of the past and very very very rarely happen. Lets not forget that VAC has been around for many years, and has had a lot of time to iron out its problems. I'm no expert and i hardly know a lot about the subject but I highly doubt that new games that use VAC will trigger false positives as im sure vac is just a template program, that devs just give an example of a original code, and if this code is changed, triggers a vac ban..
To sum it up and im very sorry but this dude cheated. End of convo really.... and like that guy said himself his username is active on a cheat site. The odds of having brandonj a username are slim but even more minute when you have brandonj4 in it.
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Vac was able to catch a simple phyton script, so please get some knowledge first
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A script which did what? Either give the full story or don't bother at all.
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EXTERNAL ESP, can you read? obviously not
vac is able to scan for crc, active scripts that only reads memory and shows off informations in an overlay.
doesnt even matter where you store such a file or in what kind of enviroment it runs
enough?
just in case you dont "believe" it, check the sourcecode, its public
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Being kicked because of the door violation will NOT GET YOU BAN.
Stop making up excuses for being ban.
All VAC does is run a simple scan in the background, look for modified game files, or cheat engine signatures. That's it. A kick won't trigger a ban.
I also feel this guy is trolling the whole lot of you.
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The thing is, my claim was never that these things definitely cause VAC bans - quite the opposite, if you take the time to read, or at least read what I've put in bold. I don't need to have ironclad proof that these cause VAC bans, because I'm arguing that they have been reported to have caused VAC bans, and thus are in the realm of possibility.
You, on the other hand, are arguing that they cannot ever cause a VAC ban. And for that, your evidence is based purely on your lack of understanding of the functionality of VAC and anecdotal evidence.
Note that the thread I posted was made by a moderator of the Rust subreddit - it doesn't mean that it is true, but it does lend it more credibility than someone making a new reddit account to whine about a ban.
Playing Rust and having a server does not make you an authority on VAC. I've been playing since very early alpha, when the game was browser based. I've been an admin on two servers, and am currently an admin on another.
VAC does scan memory - that's a fact. A program does NOT need to inject directly into the game files to be detected.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-el...ogame-cheaters
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7849-Radz-6869
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1385172
As I said before, your other evidence is purely anecdotal. Unless you know and keep tabs on every single player who plays rust or has ever played rust, you cannot say with 100% certainty that they haven't been banned for one of the reasons above.
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So again, its detecting cheats, not benign overlays. What's your point?
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The entire crux of your argument was that it only detects changes in game files, and not external applications. So, the point would be that it does, in fact, detect external applications.
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