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Hi!
This is cheat - unlocked 3 core of mouse bloody v7? (3core give better aiming and recoiling).
Ppls gets VAC for this?
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no
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no recoil scripts are also considered as cheats retard. (doesnt matter if you are modifying files or not, you gain an advantage over others)
learn to play
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No. It is not a cheat, nor will mouse macros be considered a cheat.
If it comes to that, then I believe the developers have gone full derp.
Bloody V7 Core3 / Naga Epic both support macros.
I've never had an issue using my custom macros in the game.
No-Recoil scripts are not cheating.
The scripts for C3 BloodyV7 do not execute, write, or even read memory.
Same goes for Razer Synapse's macroing feature, so you just made yourself look dumb.
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Its just question. I play in rust 300h and dont need any cheats.
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anti-recoil is retarded and a really minor cheat but, in a way, pretty much a cheat
but programmable mice are not cheats. I've used them for years.
People buy mice that claim to be "milliseconds faster" but that is completely fucking idiotic lmao. That literally could not matter any less when one is either really bad at the game or really good.
If you're trying to look for "Hyper accurate mice" and don't play in competitive matches you're wasting your money.
Recoil is kind of a huge feature in games meant to actually balance the game
being banned for macro's is far different than anti recoil. Anti recoil can also be pretty obvious in game.
seriously how is this not cheating to a major degree?
using macros for a string or combo of buttons is really nothing unless you're playing an MMORPG or a game like Magicka. But once you start using it for anti recoil, yeah, kind of is cheating.
literally impossibly to get VAC banned for anti recoil howevr
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Alternatively the devs could find another way to balance which would level the playing field for all players (including those with macro mice). One idea is to keep random spread but remove recoil entirely. This is how guns are in real life anyway, unless your arms grow out from your face.
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No offence in any way possible;
To an extent, it CAN be used to gain an advantage, but it is NOT cheating at all.
Just because someones pride is set too high and won't use macros, doesn't mean its automatically considered cheating.
I plan to continue using my mouse with my macros - and I plan to keep using my current macro which basically lets me kill players with ease. You can call me a cheater or a loser for using macros, but I'll decide what/who I am & what mouse macros I use.
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oh een egoïst van dederland.
(Oh, an egoist from netherlands.)
Using self-idiocy & google gets you nowhere;
I could re-state all of this in NL/LT if you'd like, since I know you're too dumb to read english :-(.
"CAN" and "NOT" are the keywords, thus, being in capitalized.
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Whatever you want to justify your actions buddy.
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My actions? Very funny, coming from someone abusing illegal symbolic characters in his name to hide for whatever reason that is.
Keep enjoying dat pride thinking a mouse is cheating/able-to-cheat.
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How about a hypothetical look at macros.
Say you are in a tournament. Yeah, some kind of crazy video game tournament.
Where players were all using the same monitors, the same machines, the same controllers.
How do you think the officials of said tournament would react to your use of macros?
A. "Oh, sure, go ahead and install your custom stuff that no one else is using."
B. "HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, no. You can't cheat here."
C. ~paste your answer here~
Granted, none of this is a tournament, but it highlights the idea that using macros that aren't included with the software are a 3rd party cheat. Whether your conscience has resolved to call it that or not is your business. But anything outside the game that gives you an advantage that other players don't have is a cheat.
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If you want to have a great day you can ask the people on my friends list for how long I have that name and how many multiplayer games I play. On steam they are not illegal symbolic characters.My actions? Very funny, coming from someone abusing illegal symbolic characters in his name to hide for whatever reason that is.
Keep enjoying dat pride thinking a mouse is cheating/able-to-cheat.
Call me a egoist, but you sure are a hypocrite.
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I've played a fair few games which DO consider using macro's to be against the spirit and terms of the game (I.e Cheating).
It's people like you with attitudes like that which ruin gaming.
Gtfo.
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How have we even got the point in gaming where using macros/mouse software to shortcut what should normally take extreme skill/dexterity, is "debatable" whether or not it's a cheat? :(
Fek me.........kids these days....i mean what happened to actually wanting to beat someone with your own, you know, actual skill? Do people actually get satisfaction when they win with this shit?
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Big monitors are zoom hacks
Big mousepads are aim hacks
Gaming mouse + keyboard are HCI hacks
Faster computer... if you can't take pc gaming then gtfo.
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Only helps if the game supports a resolution to match.
You use a mousepad? Bless.
Nothing wrong with having the hardware. Creating macro's to specifically counter how the game is supposed to behave though....
Getting a bit specious there aren't we?
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Yeah, i was just thinking about that. I think I go to far with the tournament example. There are a lot of hardware differences in the wild that give and take advantage at varying degrees.
Macro could be as simple as ctrl+button. It's when the macro gets complex with timings and several keypresses that it crosses the line into cheaty.
My step-dad and I would argue about the fairness of the 3rd party rapid fire joystick we had for the Atari. It meant a lot on asteroids and missile command, not so much for space invaders, and meaningless on pac man.
For a modern PC game, macros that fire a weapon, switch to another and fire then switch back really break the balls of fairness though. The player exploits timings in a way they never could with their bare hands. Even worse when they spam the things.
Saying it's a feature of the mouse or keyboard makes no difference. One could wire a microcontroller to their mouse buttons and program it to do the same things. Buying it with that built in is the same, and it can be quite useful in other software. Very cheaty and exploity in games where timing is everything though.
Nothing to be done about it though. It's all up to the player. I am surprised anyone would expect anything but contempt for admitting to using macros in a game though.
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oh yeah... there is an OP.
I am pretty sure that using your mouse software will be ok.
It doesn't alter the game files so VAC shouldn't catch it.
I think it's cheaty, but VAC doesn't care what I think.
Since all it's doing is adjusting the auto-click frequency, the way for developers to counter this would be a varying rate of fire. Then the user would never be able to calibrate their auto-clicker. Perfect for make shift Rust weapons. That is, if I understand it correctly.
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Jesus Christ.....i rest my case.....
Yeh, because those in that list are the same as making a gun fire 50x the speed it was intended, or removing the in-game recoil, or combining a 3-4 keystroke combination that takes precise dexterity/skill to do normally with a single button press......
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So, Installing software to do the same as this would get frowned upon and maybe get you banned, some people don't seem quiete sure of what they have to think about this, freaking hypocrites !
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No, it won't get you VAC banned. However, they wrote in their Trello page that they are looking for a way to stop people from removing recoil.
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As in- you're not the only one.
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macros and full on anti recoil are two very different things
I said I ALSO use macros, get the wax out of your fucking ears.
Yes anti-recoil is cheating, shut up about it.
seriously, I've been trying to say macro's aren't cheats for a while but you are god damn embarrassing. I have both a g600 and a g13. I've been using macro mice on hundreds of games, and it's not cheating period, but recoil is a HUGE thing that is meant to make a game harder, being able to just instantly have a magically very accurate gun which can even now have no recoil even over many meters is cheating.
Except none of those are even slightly as advantageous as anti recoil
Illegal characters in a name?My actions? Very funny, coming from someone abusing illegal symbolic characters in his name to hide for whatever reason that is.
Keep enjoying dat pride thinking a mouse is cheating/able-to-cheat.
Look at this dude, what are you doing getting so hyper defensive
Unless you're playing Dead space which, everything is actually made way faster in action with macros and you can combine the aim and shoot functions with autoclicking (Which actually makes reaction timing go way up), or Magicka where you combine 8 forms of magic in combo for a spell then cast, or could have a gamepad of macro keys instantly stringing everything, it won't be nearly as bad.
Hell, I've tried crazy tricks as well. Half life 2, gravity gun and grenade isn't really all that, but that's on the more tricky side of macros.
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Your English is shittier than his, so you'd best stop with this or I'm getting out the red pen and we'll go through each post and count the mistakes. Skitt's Law is a bitch.
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hi, can share their BLOODY v7 macros to RUST, my email zekainhuman@hotmail.com
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If you're using macros (3rd party software involved here) to manage certain aspects of a game, no that's not cheating.My actions? Very funny, coming from someone abusing illegal symbolic characters in his name to hide for whatever reason that is.
Keep enjoying dat pride thinking a mouse is cheating/able-to-cheat.
However, when you decide to use it to perhaps "assist" your recoil with one of those macros, you are then in fact cheating.
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Lol a cheater arguing that recoil removing macro is not cheating.
Jesus, kids these days.
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To me if macros are borderline cheats , if you can't don it yourself then don't get your macros to do it thats just taking the easy way out god i wish macros were never invented
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Rust is my first real foray back into FPS's in a while, and to be honest i was starting to think that maybe i'd lost my touch, but the more Rust forums threads i read, the more i realize that a shit tonne of the people i go up against (i use no macros/fancy keyboard/mice) that beat me, aren't actually even playing the game the same way i am.
Sigh......does no one actually play for a genuine challenge/fun anymore?
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I myself try to play every game EXACTLY how the developer intended no cheats no mods no macros heck i dont even turn off grass (I think grass should be forced on) and guess what when i do something i feel good about because i know it was 100% me and not 80%me 20% macros
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@discuit
Same thing happening in BF4 all the time :( Kids with macros shooting headshots because they can. Zero skill, zero knowledge and when it comes to a tournament they all are skipping, wierd eh?
I remember I was proud of my 60-70% railgun acc in Q2/Q3CPMA/QL because I knew I can aim. Now in games with recoil it's lotto because you are facing a dude with no recoil script and he is shooting like railgun, ffs.
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Both these video's show just how much the recoil is reduced and almost taken away completely. The advantage this gives in Rust with a M4 is just ridiculous. You can pretty well just aim for the neck area and hold down the trigger.
Anything that gives you an advantage over other players that was not built into the game is a cheat, hell its the very definition of cheating in any game/sport on the planet. Now if you actually built the macro & or mouse I can give you a little bit of props for putting the work in, but its still cheating and you are still trying to compromise for something you can't do in the game otherwise. However going out and buying one of these mice just to get the advantage is sad and cheating, hell you should just pick up cycling and start blood doping while your at it.
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That's why we need first person view for admins in Rust.
On my server I have a few persons on my list that are using macros for sure but I won't be able to get proof standing near by :(
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So i'm guessing these folks firing p250's at a rate of knots is also a "macro" of some kind?
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not necessarily i can fire a pistol pretty damn fast i just cant be fast and accurate
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Now with anti recoil, you would be very accurate AND fast.
I've used autoclickers for a long time and I can honestly say, slow and steady wins the shootingpeopleintheface
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So can i. Not faster than mp5 autofire speed though...
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You are right my good sir in both points you listed, infact my gf always panics in fps but since ive told her "You have time breathe and aim at there head and click once" she has gotten alot better sometimes people just need to breathe and realize they have a tiny bit of time
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You don't have this time you speak of when someone has an anti recoil mouse, where all they have to do is aim for the neck area/upper body and hold the trigger down.
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i dont see what your trying to say? i dont have time?
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