1. Post #41

    January 2014
    35 Posts
    snip
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  2. Post #42
    Okay, let's not start doxing people. Calm the fuck down and don't witch-hunt. VAC is the executioner, it doesn't need your help.
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  3. Post #43
    Local baseball rapist
    TheDrunkenOne's Avatar
    February 2012
    1,917 Posts
    Here's another account of his:
    -profile-
    Looking for VAC'd alt accounts is a thing, doxing is another.
    Snip that before somebody sees you, it's not a cool thing to do.
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  4. Post #44

    January 2014
    6 Posts
    he also paid for the hack :D
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  5. Post #45
    Spectre1406's Avatar
    October 2010
    12,306 Posts
    he also paid for the hack :D
    For each account?
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  6. Post #46

    January 2014
    43 Posts
    Hahahahah get banned more!

  7. Post #47
    Local baseball rapist
    TheDrunkenOne's Avatar
    February 2012
    1,917 Posts
    For each account?
    Nah, I think it's just a third-party program that injects code into the executable regardless of which account you're using.
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  8. Post #48
    Resident Beat Eater.
    wauterboi's Avatar
    August 2009
    4,881 Posts
    A tip for the future: There are no 100% untraceable hacks. The person who claimed so most likely was fully aware of the shitstorm that would result, which is why they stated to come here to try and appeal it if anyone using got caught and VACC'ed. They know Facepunch can't do anything with regards to VAC bans and told people to do this to keep heat off of themselves.
    I'd debate the bolded text.

    Theoretically, the best way to prevent VAC bans while hacking would be to have an extremely private hack (aka something self-coded for your own personal use) or to have one that's specially generated to uniquely identify with each user of the hack. (That way the VAC ban wouldn't trigger for all users, but just the one user.) That's just me thinking, though, and I don't have any expertise in this field.
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  9. Post #49
    Crashty's Avatar
    January 2012
    322 Posts
    if you dont already know, a lot of cheaters get banned and come post this exact same thread, and someone just exposes their username on a cheat website and we all laugh happily ever after
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  10. Post #50
    Spectre1406's Avatar
    October 2010
    12,306 Posts
    While being in denial and thinks that we can fix these kinds of stuff.

  11. Post #51

    June 2013
    85 Posts
    This might be why:


    Funny how you used the same forum name instead of your steam name, took me about 5 more seconds to google..... :P
    I very highly doubt this was just a lucky coincidence, Don't hack and you wont be banned kiddo.

  12. Post #52
    Gold Member
    Mitchel.'s Avatar
    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    Read This Thread:
    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?...599&p=43712675

    You've cheated and you can't deny it!

  13. Post #53
    Daze507's Avatar
    January 2014
    87 Posts
    Don't parent teach their offspring honor anymore?
    Kid, you played, you lost, end of the game. For your own good, just take it as a lesson if life.
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  14. Post #54

    January 2014
    43 Posts
    Yup time to move on to a new game you can get banned off :-)

  15. Post #55

    November 2011
    28 Posts
    You'd actually think people who want to use hacks in a game have some sort of intelligence somewhere - Y'know, they managed to install a hack that is what it's advertised to be, and not a Trojan backdoor.

    But when they go ahead and use the same exact username they use for every other website they register to, it knocks them down to being nothing but a 8 year old child.
    I'm very against using hacks, but the sheer stupidity of people disappoint me even more..

  16. Post #56
    IGotWorms's Avatar
    September 2013
    676 Posts
    This might be why:


    Funny how you used the same forum name instead of your steam name, took me about 5 more seconds to google..... :P
    You gotta love it when they make it so easy.

    Ask your pal Haruhi (everyone knows him) for a refund for your hax. Watch him laugh straight in your face, then delete your thread and ban you from the site (to avoid the bad publicity.)

    That's what you paid for.

    Edit: Also, if you give a cheater a possible reason for why they got banned, i.e. someone said it might be because he was playing at a cafe...they'll adamantly claim that was in fact the reason...as he did here.

    If you were like, maybe it was because you changed your toilet paper brand recently...someone would claim that was why they were banned.
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  17. Post #57
    Harlow's Avatar
    January 2014
    46 Posts
    Cool, well, you're just going to be banned again.
    Don't J1NX it :)
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  18. Post #58
    I'm not very clever.
    Period's Avatar
    September 2012
    1,438 Posts
    I'd debate the bolded text.

    Theoretically, the best way to prevent VAC bans while hacking would be to have an extremely private hack (aka something self-coded for your own personal use) or to have one that's specially generated to uniquely identify with each user of the hack. (That way the VAC ban wouldn't trigger for all users, but just the one user.) That's just me thinking, though, and I don't have any expertise in this field.
    As far as I know you are right. Remember LSS (Lua Source Scripting)? LSS was a plugin for source games that allowed for lua coding. There were bunnyhop scripts, music players, all sorts of shit. The plugin by itself could not get you VAC banned, because source games literally supported plugin loading at the time, just like GMod does.

    Toward the end of its life span the developer of the plugin did something pretty controversial, he added a function that let you get player positions. That quickly turned the plugin malicious, and led to aimbots and shit. Ruined LSS in my opinion, I had a lot of fun with it. It's what originally got me interested in Lua.

    Around the time the player position function was added, Valve caught on about the plugin loading and disabled it. The LSS community had two ways to get around it. Some of the older members just injected LSS into the game. I never heard about them getting VAC banned, and some of them did it for months. That makes me assume that private cheats are a lot harder to catch.

    The not so smart community members used a dll that unblocked the plugin loading again. It took about a month before VAC started banning for it, but it happened eventually. Those who used it for a week or so and then quit who were never VAC banned.

    The people who used the plugin re-enabling dll for about a month or two straight were eventually banned after Valve found out about it. It still took at least a month though, so VAC must have never detected it from the start.


    TL;DR There have been cases where things really have been undetected at first.

  19. Post #59

    January 2014
    22 Posts
    I belive that gets you VAC banned on your new account.
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  20. Post #60
    Haxer's Avatar
    January 2014
    85 Posts
    I'd debate the bolded text.

    Theoretically, the best way to prevent VAC bans while hacking would be to have an extremely private hack (aka something self-coded for your own personal use) or to have one that's specially generated to uniquely identify with each user of the hack. (That way the VAC ban wouldn't trigger for all users, but just the one user.) That's just me thinking, though, and I don't have any expertise in this field.
    This is incorrect. That would only be true if VAC used a definition library, similar to an anti-virus program like Norton. That method is used on anti-virus because a computer could be configured a million different ways, new programs installed etc.. Then you could possibly say "if I fly under the radar, they won't put my hax into their library to search for". But I'm pretty sure with VAC (as opposed to the library method), since what the game code SHOULD be is established already, and static, it's simply looking for ANYTHING that is injected or changed from the "golden standard" they've been given by Devs. So your hax don't have to be "popular" to get banhammered.

    The more you know. Hope that helps!
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  21. Post #61

    December 2013
    14 Posts
    This has to be a troll. It just has to be. I can't believe that someone is this dumb. If it really isn't then I feel bad for your parents. They failed you.

    The hacking post is even in the exact same writing style. Capitalizing the first letter of a sentence but not capitalizing "I".

    I still refuse to believe anyone is this dumb. Good troll.

  22. Post #62
    outlawpickle's Avatar
    December 2013
    1,844 Posts
    I downloaded cheats for War Z after I realized the game was going nowhere and the devs only wanted cash, and I tell you that that 7 days was the most fun I'd ever had in that God-forsaken game. I could actually compete against the other hackers who unsurprisingly had shit aim once you were on their level. I knew full well that a ban was coming so I milked the cheat for my $15 the game cost me.

    It astounds me when people who cheat expect that they can just keep playing with fucktard easy mode without getting caught. And trying to do a chargeback? Scum.

  23. Post #63
    Haxer's Avatar
    January 2014
    85 Posts
    I downloaded cheats for War Z after I realized the game was going nowhere and the devs only wanted cash, and I tell you that that 7 days was the most fun I'd ever had in that God-forsaken game. I could actually compete against the other hackers who unsurprisingly had shit aim once you were on their level. I knew full well that a ban was coming so I milked the cheat for my $15 the game cost me.

    It astounds me when people who cheat expect that they can just keep playing with fucktard easy mode without getting caught. And trying to do a chargeback? Scum.
    i agree with the last bit about cheaters surprised when they get banned for it. although did it ever occur to you that if those people you were mowing down "had shit aim" then they weren't hackers? You were just a person buying hax and mowing down legitimate players....

    edit: and also...you weren't sticking it to the dev's who screwed you, you were ruining the game for the real players who didn't do anything to you. kind of making you the scum of the earth right? no offense.

    edit2: ah i see. (below)

  24. Post #64
    outlawpickle's Avatar
    December 2013
    1,844 Posts
    i agree with the last bit about cheaters surprised when they get banned for it. although did it ever occur to you that if those people you were mowing down "had shit aim" then they weren't hackers? You were just a person buying hax and mowing down legitimate players....
    No, because you could sit in a corner, and watch other players make a beeline for you. I wasn't going on killing sprees, it was amazing to see how many other people were cheating during that game's release.

  25. Post #65

    January 2014
    203 Posts
    this. this is why you got VAC banned

    http://www.mpgh.net/forum/members/23...whysojaye.html

  26. Post #66

    January 2014
    20 Posts
    alot of people might have this name? its pretty common
    Are you serious? Do some research on words like "integrity" and own up to your mistakes. You cheated, you got banned. This is your fault, not someone else's.

  27. Post #67
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
    5,762 Posts
    Late to the party again... Good work guys, gold medals for everyone besides the OP.
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  28. Post #68
    Haxer's Avatar
    January 2014
    85 Posts
    Late to the party again... Good work guys, gold medals for everyone besides the OP.
    lol thanks jmad. glad we could hold down the fort till you got here.
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  29. Post #69
    DaddyC's Avatar
    January 2014
    83 Posts
    ..Damn late as well. That screen was great tho, even caught him asking how to use the Hack. LMAO

    Great Job guys! Damn Hackers.

  30. Post #70
    Ebrim's Avatar
    December 2013
    284 Posts
    I'd debate the bolded text.

    Theoretically, the best way to prevent VAC bans while hacking would be to have an extremely private hack (aka something self-coded for your own personal use) or to have one that's specially generated to uniquely identify with each user of the hack. (That way the VAC ban wouldn't trigger for all users, but just the one user.) That's just me thinking, though, and I don't have any expertise in this field.
    The best way to prevent VAC bans is to not cheat. Why is that so hard to understand?

  31. Post #71
    Sunrock's Avatar
    January 2014
    103 Posts
    The risk of playing on your own account on a public computer is that you never know what is installed on it. So if some one else used that computer to hack they will just ban every one that played on that as they can't see the difference.

    So don't share computers if you want to be safe with your personal accounts. It's as stupid as shearing a needle with a stranger if you where a drug addict.
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  32. Post #72
    Don't J1NX it :)
    too late mate

  33. Post #73

    January 2014
    118 Posts
    This is incorrect. That would only be true if VAC used a definition library, similar to an anti-virus program like Norton. That method is used on anti-virus because a computer could be configured a million different ways, new programs installed etc.. Then you could possibly say "if I fly under the radar, they won't put my hax into their library to search for". But I'm pretty sure with VAC (as opposed to the library method), since what the game code SHOULD be is established already, and static, it's simply looking for ANYTHING that is injected or changed from the "golden standard" they've been given by Devs. So your hax don't have to be "popular" to get banhammered.

    The more you know. Hope that helps!
    Most anti-hack systems do have a "definition" library aswell..

    And your logic has a few flaws.
    Game code might be static, memory addresses will never be (And for some hacks, all you need to do is to change those adds, eg: faking the game to run your code at some point by changing the address of a jump (call)).

    ^That was a simple example, i'm not sure how hacks are being developed for rust but that is how half of the game hacks work.

    Although this would prevent code changes to NOP.

    Edit: This is just my 2 cent, I have no clue how VAC works.

  34. Post #74

    January 2014
    96 Posts



    BURN!!!! hahahaha
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  35. Post #75

    January 2014
    338 Posts
    I think it may be because you're using steam on different PCs at different locations but I'm not sure. All I know is that my friend gave his steam account to like a few other people if they wanted to play games and they went on at different times and this caused a VAC ban. Your ban may be similar but misunderstood.

    I dont think so i've used my steam account multiple places as well as let my friend log on mine and he let me log on his to try some games... I dont think that is a cause for VAC ban but i could be wrong.

  36. Post #76
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
    5,762 Posts
    I dont think so i've used my steam account multiple places as well as let my friend log on mine and he let me log on his to try some games... I dont think that is a cause for VAC ban but i could be wrong.
    It doesn't. Reason being, if you get hijacked, this would mean big issues.

  37. Post #77
    Haxer's Avatar
    January 2014
    85 Posts
    Most anti-hack systems do have a "definition" library aswell..

    And your logic has a few flaws.
    Game code might be static, memory addresses will never be (And for some hacks, all you need to do is to change those adds, eg: faking the game to run your code at some point by changing the address of a jump (call)).

    ^That was a simple example, i'm not sure how hacks are being developed for rust but that is how half of the game hacks work.

    Although this would prevent code changes to NOP.

    Edit: This is just my 2 cent, I have no clue how VAC works.
    Hmm that very well could be. Like most people I don't cheat at games, or work for VAC, so I'm just theorizing. It's very possible you are correct and they are actually searching just based off of a library of known exploits, and updating their library behind the scenes. I assumed that since you are working with a set coded program, it would be able to catch hax without this by simply detecting any changes made. But I don't know. Thanks for your reply, good theorizing!

    -Hax
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  38. Post #78
    Resident Beat Eater.
    wauterboi's Avatar
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    The best way to prevent VAC bans is to not cheat. Why is that so hard to understand?
    I'm not debating that. I'm talking about hacking in a way that would decrease the chances of getting VAC banned.

    To be honest, though, no one here is smart enough to do what I just said. You'd have to be really determined and knowledgeable to come up with a private hack, and you'd have to be willing to not share it with anyone or come up with a ridiculous way to work against VAC as I stated before.

  39. Post #79

    December 2013
    157 Posts
    This is incorrect. That would only be true if VAC used a definition library, similar to an anti-virus program like Norton. That method is used on anti-virus because a computer could be configured a million different ways, new programs installed etc.. Then you could possibly say "if I fly under the radar, they won't put my hax into their library to search for". But I'm pretty sure with VAC (as opposed to the library method), since what the game code SHOULD be is established already, and static, it's simply looking for ANYTHING that is injected or changed from the "golden standard" they've been given by Devs. So your hax don't have to be "popular" to get banhammered.

    The more you know. Hope that helps!
    A self coded hack could be considered 99% undetectable though, as long as you take the time to rewrite all codes+bypassers and any other security features you implement EACH time you run it, yes VAC looks for changed variables in settings and third party injections and all those goodies, but it can take days, even weeks to detect injections(thus resulting in another ban wave) so if it never stayed the same, you theoretically would not get cause by VAC - Note i say theoretically, because it could happen to be 14 minutes in that it catches the hack, or you could go days.


    ontopic: the cyber cafe excuse is a new one, dont think ive seen that one yet.
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  40. Post #80

    December 2013
    241 Posts

    alot of people might have this name? its pretty common
    But I only know of one person who has this name who has a membership to a hacker website, asking about rust hacks, who's recently gotten a VAC ban for hacking on rust.
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