1. Post #1
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    Mitchel.'s Avatar
    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    Hi Guys

    I've created this thread to help Rust Section with people that spam forums with threads like: why they got vac banned or that they were innocently banned.

    So i guess you've come here out of curosity or just got VAC'd

    Basics About V.A.C

    VAC aka Valve Anti Cheat is Anti-Cheat software created by Valve Software for multiplayer games to prevent player's from hacking
    It is used in most multiplayer games based on source engine and few non-source choosen ones like Rust

    How does VAC works?

    VAC detects any attempts of modifying game process either manually or using automated tools like hacks or programs
    If you will try to modify some stuff in active process of rust it might get you flagged
    No matter what kind of program you use
    Messing with game process or .dll files will be detected and will result getting your account flagged

    Account Flagged

    If your account gets flagged you will be put onto VAC Ban Queue
    VAC Ban Queue is a database storing steamids of people that will get vac ban in time

    The Delay Of Vac Ban

    Vac bans are not instant
    They have random delay before they happen
    From few days up to few weeks and maybe even more

    This way Hack Designers have lower possiblities of finding vac exploits / workarounds

    Banned For No Reason?

    There is like extremly low chance to get banned due to bug of game
    Thought if you would be victim of that there'd be probatly more victims
    Which would get attention of Valve & Rust Dev Team and you'd probatly be unbanned with rest of unlucky people

    How to remove VAC Ban

    It is impossible to remove vac ban manually by using hacks or any programs
    Only one who are able to that are Valve Employees and possibly Rust Devs if they contact with Valve

    How to avoid getting VAC'd?

    Just don't download any .dll or .exe modifications for Rust that might give you advantage over other players

    Tricking Employees

    You might be desperate enought to try tricking valve employees into beliving that you are actually innocent
    You should give up doing so
    They've got logs of every vac ban
    Which shows what has been done and harmed

    They might suspend your account for doing so


    Official Sources About Valve Anti Cheat
    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7849-Radz-6869
    http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1385172
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat
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  2. Post #2
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    zerothefallen's Avatar
    March 2010
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    Keep in mind you don't need to edit game files directly or change memory to get banned.


    You can be banned for reading memory externally, writing memory, making an overlay that injects in, e t c

    Manual vac bans happen maybe once or twice every few years.

    THOUGH keep in mind VAC is mostly a blacklist (mostly, not all of it)

    Therefore, there is some cheats that will never be detected, simply because only 1-2 people use it. VAC will never catch coders who know what they're doing and don't release publicly. This is why admins on servers are neccesary
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  3. Post #3
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
    UberMunchkin's Avatar
    March 2010
    12,794 Posts
    If you hack you die of AIDS

    Edited:

    trust me i posted on webmd before and i know a guy who got vac banned for hacks
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    No title or gold masterrace, whoops.
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  5. Post #5
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
    5,762 Posts
    B--but I got a virus! That caused me to get a VAC ban!
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  6. Post #6
    lolo's Avatar
    February 2010
    2,051 Posts
    B--but I got a virus! That caused me to get a VAC ban!
    "Sorry it was just my brother doing shit, please unban me!"
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    "Sorry it was just my brother doing shit, please unban me!"
    "Someone was using my name and framed me!"

  8. Post #8
    lolo's Avatar
    February 2010
    2,051 Posts
    "Someone was using my name and framed me!"
    Got a perfect picture for anyone who brightens up that excuse



    BEHOLD, steam support generic response to all banned rust users.

    Shamelessly stolen from a Brazilian although

  9. Post #9
    SteakStyles's Avatar
    March 2010
    3,693 Posts
    But..... an admin teleported me! Stupid VAC saw me moving so quickly as a speed hack! You should totally go by my word!!
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  10. Post #10
    Dennab
    January 2014
    72 Posts
    If you hack you die of AIDS

    Edited:

    trust me i posted on webmd before and i know a guy who got vac banned for hacks
    VERY mature, how can you make a joke about a deadly contagious disease.
    you should never wish such a thing to ANYONE...kid
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  11. Post #11
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
    UberMunchkin's Avatar
    March 2010
    12,794 Posts
    VERY mature, how can you make a joke about a deadly contagious disease.
    you should never wish such a thing to ANYONE...kid
    I didn't wish it on anyone - and if I were you, I'd take a nice break from the internet for a moment and calm down.
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  12. Post #12
    Trans genders are gays with mental dis orders
    Dennab
    January 2012
    3,881 Posts
    VAC doesn't really prevent people from cheating, it more or less punishes them afterwards for it.
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  13. Post #13
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
    UberMunchkin's Avatar
    March 2010
    12,794 Posts
    VAC doesn't really prevent people from cheating, it more or less punishes them afterwards for it.
    It can be preventive in the sense that some people won't hack if they know they're getting banned.
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  14. Post #14
    Dennab
    January 2014
    72 Posts
    I didn't wish it on anyone - and if I were you, I'd take a nice break from the internet for a moment and calm down.
    grow up, your comment was a huge fail.
    there is NO reason at all to wish someone AIDS, are you serious?!
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  15. Post #15
    "Epic Leddit pwner :)"
    UberMunchkin's Avatar
    March 2010
    12,794 Posts
    grow up, your comment was a huge fail.
    there is NO reason at all to wish someone AIDS, are you serious?!
    If you hack you die of AIDS
    I don't know why I'm keeping it up but I didn't wish it on anyone man. It was just a small comment on part of a joke, now take a chill pill.

  16. Post #16
    Dennab
    January 2014
    72 Posts
    yeah so funny, i hope you will never lose someone due to a shit like that.
    the rust community is just outstanding and mindblowing.

    take all the CoD and BF players, put them all in one forum and voila you get this!

    (User was permabanned for this post ("lots of rude flaming yet again. leaving." - postal))
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  17. Post #17
    FREE RUST KEYS
    Dennab
    December 2012
    3,544 Posts
    VERY mature, how can you make a joke about a deadly contagious disease.
    you should never wish such a thing to ANYONE...kid
    No jokes allowed guise.
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  18. Post #18
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    UberMunchkin's Avatar
    March 2010
    12,794 Posts
    yeah so funny, i hope you will never lose someone due to a shit like that.
    the rust community is just outstanding and mindblowing.

    take all the CoD and BF players, put them all in one forum and voila you get this!
    Okay dude, with all due respect, calm the fuck down and leave this thread. It's for your own good, the more you reply the more you're getting worked up. This is a thread about VAC bans and we should all keep it that way. (also thank you for calling me stupid as fuck on steam, I appreciate it)
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  19. Post #19
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
    5,762 Posts
    Okay dude, with all due respect, calm the fuck down and leave this thread. It's for your own good, the more you reply the more you're getting worked up. This is a thread about VAC bans and we should all keep it that way. (also thank you for calling me stupid as fuck on steam, I appreciate it)
    And flaming my wall, real cool.
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  20. Post #20
    Sally's Avatar
    January 2013
    3,166 Posts
    yeah so funny, i hope you will never lose someone due to a shit like that.
    the rust community is just outstanding and mindblowing.

    take all the CoD and BF players, put them all in one forum and voila you get this!

    stop post
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  21. Post #21

    January 2014
    11 Posts
    Keep in mind you don't need to edit game files directly or change memory to get banned.


    You can be banned for reading memory externally, writing memory, making an overlay that injects in, e t c

    Manual vac bans happen maybe once or twice every few years.

    THOUGH keep in mind VAC is mostly a blacklist (mostly, not all of it)

    Therefore, there is some cheats that will never be detected, simply because only 1-2 people use it. VAC will never catch coders who know what they're doing and don't release publicly. This is why admins on servers are neccesary

    actually... overlay won't get you banned. Mumble overlay is approved by Valve and won't get you banned.

  22. Post #22
    Dennab
    January 2014
    72 Posts
    haha this is worse than the CoD and BF community ever was.
    you just have to read through these forums and you know the average age.

    get lost (feel free to ban me cause i couldnt care less)
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  23. Post #23
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    Mitchel.'s Avatar
    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    haha this is worse than the CoD and BF community ever was.
    you just have to read through these forums and you know the average age.

    get lost (feel free to ban me cause i couldnt care less)
    Then why you bother posting here?
    Don't like don't post
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  24. Post #24

    January 2014
    104 Posts
    VERY mature, how can you make a joke about a deadly contagious disease.
    you should never wish such a thing to ANYONE...kid
    Aids isn't deadly. Nobody has ever died of aids. They die of the virus they catch after aids has shut down their immune system.

  25. Post #25
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    Maloof?'s Avatar
    December 2006
    7,456 Posts
    Aids isn't deadly. Nobody has ever died of aids. They die of the virus they catch after aids has shut down their immune system.
    That's like saying you don't die from getting your leg blown off, you die from the blood loss

    The AIDS is ultimately responsible as the primary catalyst

  26. Post #26

    January 2014
    8 Posts
    Posted by cocos on jonnymad's profile:
    "the rust community is worst than CoD or BF /together" followed by "ignorant american shit face" and "go fuck yourself retarded douchebag".

    I imagine a guy screaming "I hate people who vandalize!" while pissing on someone's finest carpet.
    How are people even able to be so hypocritical without realizing themselves? :/
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  27. Post #27

    December 2013
    315 Posts
    Posted by cocos on jonnymad's profile:
    "the rust community is worst than CoD or BF /together" followed by "ignorant american shit face" and "go fuck yourself retarded douchebag".

    I imagine a guy screaming "I hate people who vandalize!" while pissing on someone's finest carpet.
    How are people even able to be so hypocritical without realizing themselves? :/
    He probably got some sand in his vag, and the irritation is completely wrecking his common sense. Or he thinks he can make a difference posting on the internet....

  28. Post #28
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    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    He probably got some sand in his vag, and the irritation is completely wrecking his common sense. Or he thinks he can make a difference posting on the internet....
    Guys you should stop derailing thread

  29. Post #29
    Skibur's Avatar
    May 2013
    167 Posts
    I'd like to point out some clarification here, that not all valve employee can lift your ban(s). Only two group of team in Valve co. can undo your ban; the VAC engineers, and the support desk.

  30. Post #30

    January 2014
    15 Posts
    That's like saying you don't die from getting your leg blown off, you die from the blood loss
    People actually do list the cause of death as blood loss in those cases.

    Edited:

    I'd like to point out some clarification here, that not all valve employee can lift your ban(s). Only two group of team in Valve co. can undo your ban; the VAC engineers, and the support desk.
    But according to valve there has only ever been one mistake in the entire history of vac, so good luck with that.

  31. Post #31
    People actually do list the cause of death as blood loss in those cases.

    Edited:



    But according to valve there has only ever been one mistake in the entire history of vac, so good luck with that.
    There's only been one false positive ban wave that affected 12,000 players. Valve have made other mistakes in the past. Those are reversed either as soon as Valve discovers their mistake, or on appeal to Steam Support.

  32. Post #32
    Poor people are peasants
    Dennab
    October 2012
    1,401 Posts
    Technically someone could release a program that would fuck with your .dll files while you were playing any vac protected game and get you banned. Although it would be questionable what you were trying to download in the first place...

  33. Post #33
    You're saying you like dos more than me, right?
    Mike Tyson's Avatar
    April 2011
    4,716 Posts
    iirc there was a virus that got you vac banned but it was fixed and people infected with it got unbanned

  34. Post #34
    HER NAME IS SHAY LAREN .YES I HAD SEX WITH HER
    anazhd's Avatar
    August 2010
    205 Posts
    There's only been one false positive ban wave that affected 12,000 players. Valve have made other mistakes in the past. Those are reversed either as soon as Valve discovers their mistake, or on appeal to Steam Support.
    +1 . Those are really reversed and in terms of detection, it's improved by now. I mean, it's Valve. Not Wild Games Studio.

  35. Post #35
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    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    Also if you see anybody pointlessly making thread about innocent or false vac ban be sure to reply to his post with this
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  36. Post #36
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
    5,762 Posts
    Also if you see anybody pointlessly making thread about innocent or false vac ban be sure to post this
    I wouldn't do that on grounds of you might get a temp for image macro...

  37. Post #37
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    April 2011
    1,427 Posts
    This is image macro?

       OH SHIT!   
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  38. Post #38

    February 2014
    1 Posts
    quick question, if there's a bug in game and you encountered it that gives you advantage of something but you didn't use any hacks/programs does that get you banned? i didn't use the bug to gain any advantage though, i just found the bug.

  39. Post #39
    quick question, if there's a bug in game and you encountered it that gives you advantage of something but you didn't use any hacks/programs does that get you banned? i didn't use the bug to gain any advantage though, i just found the bug.
    Read the first post in this thread. It explains exactly what VAC does and does not catch.

    Or read the first link at the bottom of the first post, which is Valve's own article about VAC.

  40. Post #40

    January 2014
    78 Posts
    Posted by cocos on jonnymad's profile:
    "the rust community is worst than CoD or BF /together" followed by "ignorant american shit face" and "go fuck yourself retarded douchebag".


    I imagine a guy screaming "I hate people who vandalize!" while pissing on someone's finest carpet.
    How are people even able to be so hypocritical without realizing themselves? :/
    That rug really tied the room together though.
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