1. Post #1

    January 2014
    9 Posts
    I had a server, was thirty-eight players online. All were banned and I too. Vac is confusing errors in the game, as cheating.

    I'm not a hacker. I'll need to buy the game again? . -.
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  2. Post #2
    Shitposting Pro
    Wyvyrias's Avatar
    January 2014
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    How you know they all got banned?
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  3. Post #3
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
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    Vac is confusing errors in the game, as cheating.
    Yes, the errors are caused by third-party utilities used to gain an advantage over other players (i.e. cheats.)

    Sorry bucko, you got what was coming to you.
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  4. Post #4

    January 2014
    9 Posts
    Man, i am not hacker. If you do not believe it is your problem.
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  5. Post #5
    Ogopogo's Avatar
    March 2011
    5,222 Posts
    If you truly believe and know you did nothing wrong, contact Valve by following the instructions here.

    VAC bans are controlled by Valve, not the game. There is no administrator or moderator here that can get you unbanned from back, nor will they try. There have been waves of people coming in the forum claiming they were falsely banned when not hacking, only for people to find out they have accounts on hacking websites. False positives are such a remote chance as to be almost impossible.
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  6. Post #6
    Shitposting Pro
    Wyvyrias's Avatar
    January 2014
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    Man, i am not hacker. If you do not believe it is your problem.
    You're wrong.
    Obviously it's your problem.
    We still can play.
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  7. Post #7

    January 2014
    8 Posts
    When will you people stop flaming everyone who comes on here about a false positive ban? I understand you're tired of the cheaters but this is not the way to go about it. If what he is saying is true and 38 people got banned simultaneously off a server, that's obviously a false positive that needs to be corrected.

    Also, if enough cheaters were actually getting banned, then we'd start seeing a decrease in their numbers, obviously.
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  8. Post #8
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
    jonnymad's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Post your profile, please.
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  9. Post #9
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
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    Post your profile, please.
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/FameGod

    Surprisingly enough, nothing comes up under searches for "AaronRezende" or "FameGod."

    Edited:

    If what he is saying is true and 38 people got banned simultaneously off a server, that's obviously a false positive that needs to be corrected.
    Unfortunately that's a tall order to fill, and with how VAC operates, completely unlikely unless all 38 people were cheaters. It's as close to infallible as a cheat detection can get. If there were truly this many false positives, there would be an actual controversy beyond a bunch of children going "I swear I didn't cheat, WTF"
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  10. Post #10
    Ogopogo's Avatar
    March 2011
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    When will you people stop flaming everyone who comes on here about a false positive ban? I understand you're tired of the cheaters but this is not the way to go about it. If what he is saying is true and 38 people got banned simultaneously off a server, that's obviously a false positive that needs to be corrected.

    Also, if enough cheaters were actually getting banned, then we'd start seeing a decrease in their numbers, obviously.
    Can he show that 38 players actually got banned from his server though?


    People will say all sorts of things to try and weasel their way out of a ban. As I have mentioned, this isn't the place for vac bans either. Either take the issue to valve, come here to ask about contacting valve, or don't raise the issue at all.


    Man, i am not hacker. If you do not believe it is your problem.
    Take this for instance. If he had come back and showed us some manner of truth to his claims beyond "I say so" then we might be inclined to take his case more seriously.
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  11. Post #11

    January 2014
    101 Posts
    Funny story..

    I too have a server and all the players and myself are not banned..

    And cheaters would NEVER also lie would they...

    So it must obviously be VAC's mistake and not your cheat program getting detected...

    Do us all a favor and please do not buy another copy of rust.
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  12. Post #12
    SteakStyles's Avatar
    March 2010
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    When will you people stop flaming everyone who comes on here about a false positive ban? I understand you're tired of the cheaters but this is not the way to go about it. If what he is saying is true and 38 people got banned simultaneously off a server, that's obviously a false positive that needs to be corrected.

    Also, if enough cheaters were actually getting banned, then we'd start seeing a decrease in their numbers, obviously.
    Or 39 people(OP included) were all using some kind of cheat/hack and are giving the "plead false positive on Facepunch" defense a shot as it worked SO well they last ban wave.

    I can't help but feel the person who suggested to try and dispute here was actually a genius as s/he knew nothing can be done about so called false positives here, so we end up getting the crowd that should be after that person as their "undetectable" hack was a sham.
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  13. Post #13
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
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    Do us all a favor and please do not buy another copy of rust.
    Nah, I say let 'em buy the game again, more money for the devs and a future banned copy of Rust.
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  14. Post #14

    January 2014
    8 Posts
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/FameGod

    Surprisingly enough, nothing comes up under searches for "AaronRezende" or "FameGod."

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    Unfortunately that's a tall order to fill, and with how VAC operates, completely unlikely unless all 38 people were cheaters. It's as close to infallible as a cheat detection can get. If there were truly this many false positives, there would be an actual controversy beyond a bunch of children going "I swear I didn't cheat, WTF"
    How likely is it that a meteor will hit at 35.0272° N, 111.0225°? Very unlikely. Still a possibility! I am NOT saying that it is likely or that he is telling the truth. But, I do believe the least that can be done is look in to whether or not 38 people just got banned for nothing.
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  15. Post #15
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
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    How likely is it that a meteor will hit at 35.0272° N, 111.0225°? Very unlikely. Still a possibility! I am NOT saying that it is likely or that he is telling the truth. But, I do believe the least that can be done is look in to whether or not 38 people just got banned for nothing.
    If 38 people got wrongly banned we would be seeing a lot more complaining. I'm not disagreeing, it's a possibility, but if it were true this would be a different conversation about a different situation.
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  16. Post #16

    January 2014
    101 Posts
    I don't buy into his lies.

    Its not a far stretch to believe that someone that cheats also lies.
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  17. Post #17

    December 2013
    157 Posts
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/FameGod

    Surprisingly enough, nothing comes up under searches for "AaronRezende" or "FameGod."
    some folks are wise enough to thwart the ever classic google by a simple namechange for hack sites.. doesnt mean he doesnt have an account, we just dont know his username.
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  18. Post #18
    No title or gold masterrace, whoops.
    Teddybeer's Avatar
    July 2012
    5,222 Posts
    Let me put up the number of current false positives: 0
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  19. Post #19

    January 2014
    49 Posts
    If you truly believe and know you did nothing wrong, contact Valve by following the instructions here.

    False positives are such a remote chance as to be almost impossible.
    Nothing is fool proof. Three years ago I was part of a massive ban wave that VAC banned some 2-3k legit players in CoD Black Ops on top of a bunch of cheaters. Valve's response was that while they admitted there was an error in VAC for that week they were unable to determine who in the ban wave was actually cheating and who was not they would not remove any of the bans. As a result my account that had 160+ games and not one issue now shows a VAC ban from three years ago for an error on their part.
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  20. Post #20
    SteakStyles's Avatar
    March 2010
    3,693 Posts
    Nothing is fool proof. Three years ago I was part of a massive ban wave that VAC banned some 2-3k legit players in CoD Black Ops on top of a bunch of cheaters. Valve's response was that while they admitted there was an error in VAC for that week they were unable to determine who in the ban wave was actually cheating and who was not they would not remove any of the bans. As a result my account that had 160+ games and not one issue now shows a VAC ban from three years ago for an error on their part.
    Wasn't that a completely different thing as THAT was Valve was sent one version of a gamefile and a totally different one was in the data for COD and the false bans were a due to the file mismatch?
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  21. Post #21

    January 2014
    9 Posts
    If you truly believe and know you did nothing wrong, contact Valve by following the instructions here.

    VAC bans are controlled by Valve, not the game. There is no administrator or moderator here that can get you unbanned from back, nor will they try. There have been waves of people coming in the forum claiming they were falsely banned when not hacking, only for people to find out they have accounts on hacking websites. False positives are such a remote chance as to be almost impossible.
    Thx

    Edited:

    Dude, I will not be fighting with you for doubting what I said, is a right for you, but please do not become offended, I just want to play, I love this game.
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  22. Post #22

    January 2014
    101 Posts
    Why are you guys even humoring him. The only incident where VAC was wrong that I ever heard of was because activision and steam mismatched a file in their distribution of COD that resulted in some bans. To which they acknowledged and fixed.
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  23. Post #23
    lolo's Avatar
    February 2010
    2,051 Posts
    Buy the game again son, you got yourself banned.

    Valve will only lift the ban if it WAS a false positive
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  24. Post #24

    January 2014
    9 Posts
    Buy the game again son, you got yourself banned.

    Valve will only lift the ban if it WAS a false positive
    Okay, I'll buy another one because I really loved the game

    (I'm not hacker, but I loved the game, I hope they improve the anti cheat)
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  25. Post #25
    Grinning's Avatar
    January 2014
    57 Posts
    Okay, I'll buy another one because I really loved the game

    (I'm not hacker, but I loved the game, I hope they improve the anti cheat)
    That's the ticket AaronRezende! Bite the bullet and buy another copy of this awesome game! Facepunch Studios appreciates your understanding, I'm sure, because they don't administer VAC bans, but they do enjoy your business. Or. you could just wait one year as I hear VAC bans only last one year? Can anyone corroborate this point with me?
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  26. Post #26

    January 2014
    49 Posts
    Wasn't that a completely different thing as THAT was Valve was sent one version of a gamefile and a totally different one was in the data for COD and the false bans were a due to the file mismatch?

    I think it was something like that yes, but Valve never did rescind any of those bans. I went back and forth with them for weeks over it and never did get it removed from my account. To this day as a result of all this I have not spent another penny on CoD.
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  27. Post #27

    January 2014
    9 Posts
    That's the ticket AaronRezende! Bite the bullet and buy another copy of this awesome game! Facepunch Studios appreciates your understanding, I'm sure, because they don't administer VAC bans, but they do enjoy your business. Or. you could just wait one year as I hear VAC bans only last one year? Can anyone corroborate this point with me?
    I agree with you. I loved the game and I understand he is in a testing phase. I'll buy the game again and help developers.
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  28. Post #28
    lolo's Avatar
    February 2010
    2,051 Posts
    That's the ticket AaronRezende! Bite the bullet and buy another copy of this awesome game! Facepunch Studios appreciates your understanding, I'm sure, because they don't administer VAC bans, but they do enjoy your business. Or. you could just wait one year as I hear VAC bans only last one year? Can anyone corroborate this point with me?
    VAC bans are permanent unless they are lifted manually according to their FAQ

    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7849-Radz-6869
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  29. Post #29

    January 2014
    457 Posts
    Man, i am not hacker. If you do not believe it is your problem.
    Yes you are a hacker :). I know you, you are a member of the brazilian rust community. We keep a list of our players that get vac banned + reported from any of our community servers.

    You were reported and banned. The end. Also stop lying. Your friends might believe in your shitty stories but everyone else with half a brain knows you were hacking and got banned for it.

    Facepunch does not deal with vac bans.
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  30. Post #30

    December 2013
    12 Posts
    Okay, I'll buy another one because I really loved the game

    (I'm not hacker, but I loved the game, I hope they improve the anti cheat)
    Honestly if you didn't cheat i doubt you would be so easily convinced to just buy a new copy? if you were truly innocent you would be doing what you can to sort it out i no the game aint expensive but if you DID get incorrectly banned i would think you would follow it up ! :L or at least grow some balls (cant wait to see a new thread from you in a month saying you and 1000 people in your server got banned for no reason)
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  31. Post #31
    Dennab
    June 2011
    173 Posts
    Bye.
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