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Post #1So I was running around today on my server and I see a guy in Kevlar kill a noob. So being the "good guy" i am I call over a buddy and we two take him on. We were both in full Kevlar with M4's each. He had full Kevlar and an MP5. The guy took 4 grenades and 6-10 head shots from the both of us and still killed us.
Should that be the way such an encounter ends up?
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6-10 headshots? i doubt it unless it was 1 headshot and then you gave him 20 seconds to heal before shooting him again
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Depends on how far apart those shots landed? Did he have time to use medkits between? Eat food? What was the range? Did the grenades land at his feet or did they only hit him for some minimal damage? In all honesty i wouldn't bother with grenades in open world combat, they are pretty useless, decent in a 1x1 space thou. I know id usually take an mp5 at close range but that's personal preference.
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Either heal, or a hacker.
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Yeah, Medkits would give him an advantage, especially if you guys didn't have any.
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Remember kids if your age is on the clock you are ready for the cock
MP5's are amazing I killed 2 full kevs with an MP5 right after joining a server with some pieces of leather armor. M4's are like sniper rifles and since everybody uses them semi-automatic to conserve ammo they aren't as good as the SMG. SMG has less recoil too.
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M4 EASILY
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If you get the same sound of a headshot from a player that you do from a zombie, I was putting one on him every 2-3 seconds for a good 10-15 second battle, plus my buddy was too. He was not healing or eating between.
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Inarus not to offend you or anything but there are a lot of kids on games like this that go "OH I totally got a head shot on that guy Hes tottallyyyy a hacker guys!"
Asides from that if you and your friend were unleashing hellfire on him and he didn't die then yes he probably was hacking.
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How could you confirm that? There is no way to tell if someone is popping kits and food, no animation, no effect or visual indicator.
The only indicator is how long someone lasts while pinned down and taking hits, and by your own admission he lasted quite some time. All signs point to healing.
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Remember kids if your age is on the clock you are ready for the cock
sound indicator but I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't hear it over an M4
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I would be more inclined to think he wasn't hacking, i know nothing about hacking to be honest but i doubt there is a hack that gives you 400% health. It'd be god mode or not surely.... and since you killed him id say he was probably just healing.
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There isn't a hack to give you more health or make you invuln. Player headshots do make the same sound as zombie headshots, but lagging on a zombie it still counts the headshot, lagging with a player it will make the sound but not show the hit marker, thus not counting the hit.
Stacking large health and small health while spamming chicken can heal you fairly quickly. I know i've taken about 10 hits in a row from a m4 while i was in kev and survived because i had health packs going.
Also i wouldn't count grenade damage. If you hit him directly everytime he would still be able to heal faster than they would kill. With that i doubt the battle was only 10-15 seconds if you had time to throw 4 grenades before switching to your gun and getting headshots.
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Pretty sure you only hear your own healing, never heard another person heal before
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Were I 12 years old I would understand. I'm more than twice that age, still a kid by some accounts, but I know what a headshot sounds like. Additionally, I wasn't spraying bullets. Like I said, 1 shot every 2-3 seconds.
And my question is in regards to healing, med kits don't heal me that fast. I don't think that a 556 round with a med kit popped right after would do less damage than a 9mm from an MP5 (What he shot me with) and would take me from 100 hp to 15 in 1 hit.
Again, I don't have proof, I'm just wondering what is the likelihood that this guy was hacking? I think, based on a few things, that he was.
It would also support my hypothesis that not 2 minutes after we re-spawned in our base (VERY secluded, by the way) he was at our door blowing it up. Killed both of us again, with an MP5 vs. 2 M4's (all three of us were in full Kevlar).
And based on how long it just took me to run back and destroy his house, it's not possible he ran from his house to mine in the amount of time it took him to get there.
Again, I cannot prove anything, merely stating that I think he might have been.
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What all this says to me is that healing occurs far too quickly.
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So many factors at work here. MP5 is in theory a more viable weapon for close range because of the higher fire rate. M4 is more accurate and deals more damage so it's better for ranged encounters.
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Well its definitely possible, as anything is possible. And your correct in saying that medkits don't heal you that fast, in fact, if you are hit after using a medkit all further returns are lost. So if you were using a small medkit and were hit after gaining 20hp, the other 30hp won't be gained. And food has a cooldown, so essentially you need to spam food, small medkit, large medkit then repeat to gain max returns while being shot, and medkits have a max stack of 5 so this wouldn't last too long.
I misread your original post and i thought you said that you killed him, which is why i thought he likely wasn't hacking, still not sure as someone said that there is no invul hack, and i have never encountered one, that being said, this could have been an admin with godmode on...
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game should reflect this principle, Nuff said
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5.56 can pierce armor. an Mp40 with .40 or 9mm can't. case closed.
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Pretty sure the germans didn't have .40 cal ammo back then.
But if you meant the MP5/40, that's a different story.
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Mp5 is best for suppressing fire.
I hear someone taking single, controlled shots with the M4..no big deal.
When I hear someone open up with the Mp5 in my direction, then shit gets real.
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pifff all i have to say is p250.
same damage as a m4, almost the same range, and very low kick.
also way easier to make 9m ammo then 556.
best gun in the game i say.
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i prefer the action bolt rifle
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I find this all entertaining
I wish i could have a 15 second fight with someone and accuse them of hacking because i lost, That would be a ball
Right now if i walk out my door into any direction i instantly die from the new suicide hack, You guys are living in luxury in my opinion
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admin in godmode? or by "my server" do you mean you're the admin?
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1 head shot should be a 100% Death if not 2 head shots should be 200% death
he is Hacking Or using Some thing else maybe
or maybe you had lag some thing ?
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What do the Germans have to do with it? The type weapons were being compared . I compared their ammo types against body armor. No reason to be pedantic. It doesn't create the illusion of expertise or intelligence you seem to be hoping for.
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I found your problem.
Youre 2 guys teaming up on a lone ranger and you try to kill him with fucking GRENADES.
Youre obviously retarded which probably gave him the advantage.
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Well aren't you just friendly and open-minded?
Regardless of how bad these two possibly might have been, going as far as using grenades against a single Kev (whom isn't a lone ranger but rather a lone rock collector), 6 headshots within a 10-15 second span is way more than enough to kill a full Kev, even if they were to use medkits. That's basically become the main point here, so if you'd like to give some non-"retarded" input, now's your chance.
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There is godmode, only as an admin tool. This can be noticed with 3+ headshots in a short period of time.
And there is noclip, might play the sound from a headshot (satisfying crunchiness) but no hitmarkes will then ever show.
Was he an admin? Medpacks heal 3 hp per tick, so in a 10 second intervall Id wager the max it couldve healed is about 30 hp.
If you HONESTLY shot him with ANYTHING, ANYWHERE 6-10 times from 2 dudes within 10 seconds, he was obviously an admin with godmode. And it should be so PAINFULLY obvious that you shouldnt have to whine on the forums.
Also, penis.
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Have you ever used medkits?
They heal over time. Slowly.
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Lol. You said the MP40. That is a weapon the Germans made in WWII. If you were talking about an MP5 in .40 cal it would be a MP5/40. I don't have to create any kind of illusion or expertise, I know what I'm talking about. You're the one with his terminology all messed up.
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Shoot a full 9mm clip into a kevlar vest and whoever is wearing that vest will be incapacitated and/or dying from internal bleeding/bruising.
As for OP, sounds like you were playing against a godmode admin IF you actually landed those shots within the time frame you claim. There are no cheats atm that make cheaters invincible.
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You realize you can stack the effect, right? Try testing it sometime, there is a trick, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. Completely legitimate game mechanic.
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Small rations are also pretty good for healing emergencies.
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Also considering that medkits stop healing when interrupted by damage, it all points to either a cheater or an admin. Though an admin killing new spawns is a tad odd, I personally have never run into a hacker using godmode.
Seems like this guy is genuinely curious rather than whining IMO.
Yes.
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using both small and large medkits, with food on top of that will prolong your life through quite a few bullets.
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LoL That was a mistype I didn't see. You're right sorry. I thought you were trying to say that the ammo/guns didn't exist at a certain time that was relevant to the game. My bad.
First of all, I was referring to armor penetration, which has nothing to do with your scenario, because my 5.56 pierces your armor and kills you before you bruise me to death with your 9mm. Furthermore, I can hit you in the chest with a baseball bat and kill you while you're wearing a vest. How is it relevant?
Also, a 9mm? Care to claim a distance, load, bullet weight, and quantity? You overestimate it's energy. The 9mm isn't the load I would use to try and prove your point.
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Chill out, gun queer, the point is how much realism do you really want? At a certain point, you're right, even a baseball bat can kill in one hit, so why start to argue realism in a video game.
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