[FlippyT]

For my server, I decided to build a massive metal base near small rad as a sort of monument for fun. I was going to build it as high as I could and in the top floor I would place the best loot you could possibly imagine. Then I would allow people to try to blow their way to the top to get the loot, if they had the C4 of course. As long as you're placing the buildings for fun and for the playerbase, and not to use it as your own base to raid people with, I see no problem.

Sadly a hacker ransacked the server while I was offline and everyone left. My server is now empty.

I am sad.

[CantPlay]

cwzy posted:

if the server is empty who cares, if its very populated i would immediately leave

Why would you leave?

[Stewie.D]

CantPlay posted:

Why would you leave?

I guess a lot of people see it as once an admin starts using his powers to spawn materials, what's to stop him spawning weapons, armor, ammo etc. Some people believe each and every player should be 100% equal, and don't see any positives in the kind of stuff you're proposing.

That's just difference of opinion that you'll have to deal with if you plan on doing it. Some people will agree with you and think you have great ideas. Some people won't.

[tirpider]

@OP It is your server. You make the rules.
Anyone that is dissatisfied with that can find a new server or get their own.

It sound to me like you are wanting to build your map up. You could further use your item spawning abilities to assist or reward folks that help you in that endeavor.

Just because other servers do this or that does not mean you must follow suit.

[Sievers808]

Yea way too many people assume that if you don't play the game like they do then you're obviously abusing your admin rights... It's stupid.

I had an event server, I posted about it a couple times a day so people knew what was up and everyone was fine with it. I wasn't playing, per se... I was just running the events and managing the server, so there wasn't really anything for me to abuse.

I did build buildings for events, but they were metal and rather massive on a relatively small server so people generally knew what they were. In fact, I just left the maze I'd built open all the time... If people moved in I'd ask them to leave but it wasn't a big deal.

I think the most important thing to most people is transparency. Whenever I decided that I was going to actually play the game I'd tell everyone. I'd say "Mmmkay guys, I dropped the uber hatchet and all that crazy shit, godmode is off, etc etc... I'm gunna really play now." and everyone was fine with that.

[Al Apone]

Dude! You paid for the server, so do what you want. Anybody that doesn't like it can leave (unless you've discovered some secret super Admin powers).

[IGotWorms]

Stewie.D posted:

Yeah I see what you're saying. I think most people ignore those threads.

At the end of the day it's your server, do what you want. The only place where admin abuse is a real problem is on official servers. And people who use it to gain a huge power advantage. What you're proposing seems perfectly fair and would be up to the players whether they agree to join in or not.

I'm not sure if you've noticed this yet but there are no admins on official servers. The only "admins" on the official servers are VAC and Cheatpunch.

[Stewie.D]

IGotWorms posted:

I'm not sure if you've noticed this yet but there are no admins on official servers. The only "admins" on the official servers are VAC and Cheatpunch.

Ahh okay thanks for putting me right. I don't play official servers so I wouldn't know :) I just tend to ignore the "ban this server, admin abuse!!" Posts, assuming that unless they were official then u cannot ban an admin for abusing his powers. :p

[OfficeMonkey]

Never owned one myself but as a player I wouldn't care? Depends on the person and if they even knew.

Now myself if i did ever own one i would factor a few things.. Like most importantly is the community big enough to care about this? If it is then I'd go about making an event about it and if more then half the community didn't like it then well down the toilet with the plan, But if it was good positive reactions for the most part then i go about making the starter towns for people to try starting, Just to give a good start and defend from groups at least but never really spawning anything after the event has started.

Now to the main question is that abuses of admin powers? Well since YOU rented the damn server and unless the community donates to keep it up too, I don't think anyone has any good reason to say otherwise unless you say, since again.. your paying.

[J!NX]

You're building entire towns? That's pretty sick

send me the IP I want to join eventually. (Profile comments)

You're not doing it with bad intent and it's for all. Most importantly, it's not for specific friends or people that paid you, or yourself, it's just for fun. Anyone who thinks that is abuse is a complete tool.

[CantPlay]

we just had a reset so im in the process of rebuilding, the IP is in my profile

Edit: Can we post pictures in threads? Well im not wanting to get banned from the forums again but i posted pictures of the first of many little villages that will be built on my server. Look up Sounditout.

[26chairs]

Scynix posted:

Yes.

It's probably not harmful abuse, but it's still abuse.

Abuse does not necessitate using something wrongly. You can abuse privileges.
If you do *anything* in game that you could not otherwise do if you were not the admin and has an impact in the world in any way, you're abusing the power of being an admin.

Of course, if your server title is "Prebuilt towns and housing" or something, then people will be connecting expecting that specifically, and it wouldn't be viewed as abuse necessarily.

You may be viewing it as not effecting the game, but consider this: part of the game is surviving long enough to build your shelter. If I stumble upon a prebuilt house and all I have to do is put a door on it, I'm bypassing a large portion of the "early game".

I completely disagree. Saying that doing anything you wouldn't be able to do if you weren't an admin is abuse is just plain retarded. Might as well say that banning and kicking is abuse, since regular players can't do that. Admin abuse implies "abusive" behavior, and I fail to see how building a shelter town for everyone on the server to use is abusive. It's not beneficial to the admin in any way, and isn't targeted towards any particular player.

If people dislike the way he manages his server (although I'm not sure why anybody would be annoyed by random "neutral" buildings), they're free to go somewhere else. It's more of a server feature than anything else.

Somebody needs to go read the definition of abuse. According to wikipedia, it is "improper usage or treatment of an entity." Spawning neutral buildings that don't benefit or penalize any particular player, or the admin himself, can hardly be called improper usage of admin powers. It's just a way of running a server.

[OppositeTalen]

It's your server, do what you like.

[Darkenshade]

Its not abuse building towns and adding background to your own server. Just make sure if you do put doors on them, make sure they are unlocked.

[CantPlay]

Darkenshade posted:

Its not abuse building towns and adding background to your own server. Just make sure if you do put doors on them, make sure they are unlocked.

Yep just here recently I've started putting doors up since i can unlock them.

[GMAK]

CantPlay posted:

I recently rented a server for Rust, I enjoy the game completely. The one thing i like the most out of all though is the building part. Would i be abusing my admin powers to spawn materials just build with on my server? I never keep any of the buildings, I never place a door. One of the things i built was a shanty town. Lots of shelters surrounded by Large spike walls. Probably 100 shelters all together. I thought that would be a nice PVP area. I've wanted to build houses all over the map to fill up some of the empty spaces and put in my own crates with random loot inside like the Rad Zones but i see all these posts about other admins abusing there power that i don't want to get slotted in with them. What do you guys/gals think? And I'm sorry if i posted this in the wrong place.

V/r
Cantplay

It would be cheating if you place door?

[Soupstorm]

GMAK posted:

It would be cheating if you place door?

I think he means that if the structures had doors (when they couldn't be unlocked by the owner), they become hideouts for the admin as far as the playerbase sees it. If it's all walls, then the only way it turns into someone's fortress base is with explosives.

[CantPlay]

I think i understand what he is asking, i think..Before when i originally made this post you didnt have the ability to unlock doors fer everyone. So i would not add doors to teh structures i built, but in recent patches you can unlock doors so anyone can use them. If I'm wrong please correct me and ill try to answer better.