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Post #41
Take Valves dick out ya mouth
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MW2 and MW3 VAC ban immediately on detection for modifications on any game file other than the config files. When MW2 shipped, Valve was handed a different copy of the game's files than what actually installed on Steam owners' computers. All of those incorrect VAC bans were reversed. No other MW2 bans were. This is not how all VAC-protected games work.
They've been trying for days.
Boy, you sure told him. That's flawless logic, right there. VAC is clearly inferior to everything, including your mom, and false detections happen every single time, all the time.
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they did for the people that got hit with the False Positive Bans in MW3
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MW2, and that's because Valve and Infinity Ward/Activision screwed up. Steam updated a MW2 DLL after the game had been loaded into memory, and VAC triggered on that. Those bans were undone.
Do you really think Valve would not make changes to prevent that happening again?
Bottom line: If it is a false positive there is nothing you can do but wait until Valve reverses the VAC ban so shut up. If it wasn't a false positive, shut up, cheater.
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well just read the title "Unclear" heuheuheu
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Dude you're missing out...
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I just donty understand why everyones a hacker. Ive played on a low pop server with just friends and had many bugs as well as my friends. i love rust just wish i could have gotten to play it more
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This is a rather sickening thing to say.
"If you were falsely banned BOOHOO shut the fuck up" Seriously? ... Seriously? I know there are a LOT of cheaters on rust right now but if someone has legitimately been falsely banned they should just suck it up? That's complete horseshit. It's a purge without accountability. It's just wrong on so many levels.
Maybe people are just getting their jollies in at any chance they get, as many real hackers have been banned. Maybe you're just blind with rage and don't care who gets banned (as long as it's not YOU, naturally). People need to cool and collect themselves and think about what they're saying.
TBH, I am genuinely scared about being a possible false positive victim. I hope that all these people complaining about it being a false positive are just lying through their teeth. But the idea of any single one of them not lying, and considering how everyone describes VAC bans as basically, completely irreversable and final without any appeal seems ludicrously unjust and overzealous.
Reminds me of witch hunts. You drown you were innocent. You don't drown you were obviously hacking No Clip and are burned at the stake. You're dead either way so oh well. Jesus.
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MW2 had it very horribly implimented and so did the mod
don't blame VAC, blame shitty coding.
Seriously, if you change anything in MW2 it can vac ban you.
that's fucking funny because PB has had a way way worse history.
and valve actually corrects false positives.
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No, but they should stop shitposting on the forums about it. It accomplishes nothing except earn them negative mod attention. What's garry going to do about it? He can't tell Valve what to do. He can talk to Valve and see if there is, in fact, a false positive situation going on, and if there is, it's up to Valve to fix it.
VAC bans are permanent (unless Valve themselves screwed up and issued false positives) because they initially were for one year, and then five years, but the rate of people going back to hacking when their VAC bans expired was so fuckdonkulously high, Valve brought the hammer down.
If you are a legitimate player with a false positive, posting here solves nothing and only draws accusations of lying and cheating. It creates drama. This is why I said, shut up.
I'm not blind with rage, I'm fed up with shitposting.
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Probably isn't the best idea to hang around this section then.
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Interesting - I had thought this was a separate conversation with another person who was trying to get their VAC ban overturned.That's not how vac works.
no it wasn't lol. You guys gotta quit saying this. If you look just a bit further on in the twitter feed you'll see them reply to another guy and say that keem's ban wasn't a false positive.
As for logging and then banning later being "not how VAC works", that was my interpretation of the description of VAC, which is triggered by certain events, such as a change in game/system files or system memory, which is then logged and used to ban them in a subsequent wave. It's possible that I misinterpreted it, or that the way VAC is being triggered in Rust is unrelated to the false speedhack detection.
To the folks who are talking about how VAC is amazing - it is. It's probably one of the best anti-cheat systems out there. It certainly puts Warden and PB to shame. My point isn't that it's horrible, or that it has so many false positives, etc. My point is that it's not infallible, and that jumping down the throats of everyone who claims to have been wrongly banned saying "you cheated and now you're banned you dirty, dirty cheater" may not be the best approach.
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False speedhack detection = the Rust server monitoring your internal position and going HEY WAIT A MINUTE YOU CAN'T TRAVEL THAT FAST *kick*
VAC = these DLL files for the game have changed, logging and sending report to Valve. OH! This is a known cheat. Ban added to queue. [Some time later] BAN
This is precisely how VAC works, and this is why we laugh at almost anyone coming in to claim that Rust is causing VAC bans because of the speedhacking kick for using admin teleport, and accuse them of cheating if they blame admin teleport/speedhack-kick for their VAC ban. Because VAC doesn't give a shit about Rust's internal server state. It cares about the state of the client and the DLLs and other core game files it uses. If those are modified either on-disk or in memory by hack injection, VAC is on the case.
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VAC Bans 99% of the time are permanent and they will not unban you no matter the reason due to the fact that when vac banned by the actual system its self it looks for modifications that dont belong changes to Dll, Exe's, ETC.
Glitches and bugs would modify game data in the way VAC would see it and tag it.
If you got banned its cause your cheating or a admin submitted proof of hacking in which if you werent you can try but its a 1% chance you will get unbanned if they even look into it.
The only bans that can be disputed are ones that are submitted through video or screenshots.
Good Luck and Dont Cheat why waste money!!
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Fucking no. Valve does not accept reports for VAC bans. The only manual VAC bans ever have been Valve punishing people who cheated at crafting golden wrenches.
Stop repeating this misinformation.
Educate yourself about what VAC is and does before you reply to this thread.Steam Support posted:
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Oh shut up.. VAC always err's on the users side.. its a very conservative anti-cheat compared to the other ones (hackshield and punkbuster are both awful in comparison)
VAC rarely makes a false positive and when it does Valve corrects it and ships free games to say sorry.. Stop talking out your ass.
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This is because cheaters are encouraged to come here and plead innocence -- to a group that is largely very upset with cheaters. It is likely for a post of this nature to be fraudulent.
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