[coolmanyou1]

I was on a server with about 20 people and there was a rogue admin and I killed him in game and I took his stuff and he vac banned me.. I don't know how to get myself unbanned, I did nothing wrong and I love rust, Can someone please help me. I wanna play rust again, Sorry i am posting it here I don't know where else to post this :)

My steam username is silentspring_
Thanks! Love the game:)

[elixwhitetail]

The server admin cannot VAC ban you.

Only Valve can VAC ban you.

Nobody on FP can unban you from VAC.

[Sievers808]

Admins do not VAC ban, that is all controlled by Valve.
If you have been banned from the server then I suggest just finding another server.
If you have been VAC banned then..... good luck.
You can try to win an appeal through Valve but you'd better have some solid evidence to prove that you were not cheating.

[coolmanyou1]

I am trying to join different servers and I have not cheated. All though I don't know how to prove I am not a cheater, Can someone walk me through this :)

[Sievers808]

coolmanyou1 posted:

I am trying to join different servers and I have not cheated. All though I don't know how to prove I am not a cheater, Can someone walk me through this :)

No, sorry. If you have been VAC banned then Valve is the only place that can help.
VAC bans are serious stuff... people don't get VAC'd willy-nilly. If you have been banned then you cheated at some point, somehow, although false-positives can happen they are rather rare.

[coolmanyou1]

I guess I am the rare, Can someone link me the valve appeal thing:)

[Sievers808]

coolmanyou1 posted:

I guess I am the rare, Can someone link me the valve appeal thing:)

No.
Google.

[elixwhitetail]

If you were incorrectly banned due to Valve making a mistake and causing false positives, you will be unbanned when Valve corrects their mistake.

Otherwise, you are VAC banned from Rust on this account forever.

There is no appeal.

[huNt3r87]

elixwhitetail posted:

If you were incorrectly banned due to Valve making a mistake and causing false positives, you will be unbanned when Valve corrects their mistake.

Otherwise, you are VAC banned from Rust on this account forever.

There is no appeal.

VAC bans last a year, and are only permanent if you have multiple bans on record. Should probably look at it a bit more before you render an assurance that he's banned permanently.

[jonnymad]

Holy shit I am laughing my ass off. Nice try, OP. Next time use a different username before you lie! It isn't like a quick google search won't yield quick results.

[RevyTwoHand]

ok now that is priceless!!! hahaha

[Celani10]

pretty rare VAC banning by mistake..
Hope you never play it again, hacker :p

[huNt3r87]

coolmanyou1 is a generic name. There's no assurances it's the same person. Look at his posts and typing style to see if it's him. That's an assurance. None the less, I'll go with your post and laugh at this as well.

[Lijitsu]

huNt3r87 posted:

VAC bans last a year, and are only permanent if you have multiple bans on record. Should probably look at it a bit more before you render an assurance that he's banned permanently.

All VAC bans are permanent - Valve has a zero-tolerance policy for cheating and will not lift VAC bans under any circumstances.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...7849-RADZ-6869

Try again.

[elixwhitetail]

huNt3r87 posted:

VAC bans last a year, and are only permanent if you have multiple bans on record. Should probably look at it a bit more before you render an assurance that he's banned permanently.

Uhhh lol

Valve started coding on a 'long-term solution' for cheating in 2001.[7] VAC was first released with Counter-Strike 1.4 in 2002, during its initial release, it only banned players for 24 hours.[8] The duration of the ban was increased over time, players were banned for 1 year and 5 years, until 2005 when any new bans became permanent.[9] The initial version, VAC1, saw success for a period, but in March or April 2004 updates ran dry as the Valve engineers maintaining it moved on to the production of its successor, VAC2.

(Wikipedia)

Your info is eight years out of date. Thank you for demonstrating the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

[jonnymad]

huNt3r87 posted:

coolmanyou1 is a generic name. There's no assurances it's the same person. Look at his posts and typing style to see if it's him. That's an assurance. None the less, I'll go with your post and laugh at this as well.

I don't have an account, I can't see anything on there There's no way I'm going to one of those sites unless it is searching up irrefutable proof of cheating.

[huNt3r87]

elixwhitetail posted:

Uhhh lol


(Wikipedia)

Your info is eight years out of date. Thank you for demonstrating the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Elix you can "uhhh lol" me all you want, although I was in the midst of a CSGO competitive match when someone was vac banned and it was for the period of a year. Look at people who play CS/CSGO. Their multiple bans prove it only lasts for a year if it's the same account. "vac bans on record:" Thank you come again.

[elixwhitetail]

huNt3r87 posted:

Elix you can "uhhh lol" me all you want, although I was in the midst of a CSGO competitive match when someone was vac banned and it was for the period of a year. Look at people who play CS/CSGO. Their multiple bans prove it only lasts for a year if it's the same account. "vac bans on record:" Thank you come again.

Gee, that anecdotal evidence sure beats my properly-cited argument. Boy, I'm such a loser.

Got any proof other than your own words to back any of that up? Mr. Simpson, please take your head out of the Squishee Machine.

[jonnymad]

And after searching google, I have discovered I share the same exact name and user name as some black dude with a really nice bowtie who knew!
https://twitter.com/jonnymad

[Sievers808]

jonnymad posted:

And after searching google, I have discovered I share the same exact name and user name as some black dude with a really nice bowtie who knew!
https://twitter.com/jonnymad

Snap... that is a jazzy bow-tie.
EDIT: oh and also I agree with elix. If you want to tell someone they're wrong then prove it, don't just type out words, link us to the proof.

[jonnymad]

Sievers808 posted:

Snap... that is a jazzy bow-tie.
EDIT: oh and also I agree with elix. If you want to tell someone they're wrong then prove it, don't just type out words, link us to the proof.

Doesn't matter, look at the above photo the dude has an account to a hacking website.

[coolmanyou1]

That is not me.. I created a steam support ticket.

[iamcpc]

jonnymad posted:

And after searching google, I have discovered I share the same exact name and user name as some black dude with a really nice bowtie who knew!
https://twitter.com/jonnymad

The odds of someone having the same alias as you are pretty decent which you have proven. The odds of someone having the same alias as you associated with a hacker website after you've been vac banned i'm betting are much lower

[StrangeWill]

huNt3r87 posted:

coolmanyou1 is a generic name. There's no assurances it's the same person. Look at his posts and typing style to see if it's him. That's an assurance. None the less, I'll go with your post and laugh at this as well.

LoL, no. Banned same day? Doubt it's someone else.

[coolmanyou1]

I don't understand how that is proof? I am kind of mad that you just framed me like that.. It upsets me how you just googled my name, coolmanyou1. Looked for hacking website and said that was me because that guy has the same username. I don't find that fair, it's like me googling AngelWarrior on a steam appeal and finding his name on 3 different hacking websites and saying that is him when it could not be?
All I can say is that is not me on that site, I can proof that also. All the way down to my location and Ip.
Please don't frame people when you actually don't know..

[mrblowfish]

huNt3r87 posted:

Elix you can "uhhh lol" me all you want, although I was in the midst of a CSGO competitive match when someone was vac banned and it was for the period of a year. Look at people who play CS/CSGO. Their multiple bans prove it only lasts for a year if it's the same account. "vac bans on record:" Thank you come again.

OH MY GOD!

He got a cooldown for hurting the good folks in his team, or for leaving the match. We've all gotten one ...

[jonnymad]

coolmanyou1 posted:

I don't understand how that is proof? I am kind of mad that you just framed me like that.. It upsets me how you just googled my name, coolmanyou1. Looked for hacking website and said that was me because that guy has the same username. I don't find that fair, it's like me googling AngelWarrior on a steam appeal and finding his name on 3 different hacking websites and saying that is him when it could not be?
All I can say is that is not me on that site, I can proof that also. All the way down to my location and Ip.
Please don't frame people when you actually don't know..

Well, prove us wrong, show us your steam profile. Assuming you have only a single VAC, then that would have to be wrong, since there should be two at least (one for Rust, one for ArmA 2) is that correct?

[coolmanyou1]

jonnymad posted:

Well, prove us wrong, show us your steam profile. Assuming you have only a single VAC, then that would have to be wrong, since there should be two at least (one for Rust, one for ArmA 2) is that correct?

Very correct.

[jonnymad]

coolmanyou1 posted:

Very correct.

So, get on with it. Where's that steam profile?

[coolmanyou1]

jonnymad posted:

Well, prove us wrong, show us your steam profile. Assuming you have only a single VAC, then that would have to be wrong, since there should be two at least (one for Rust, one for ArmA 2) is that correct?

I don't know how to prove that since I will have to give my legit unbanned key and a picture on this website?

[huNt3r87]

mrblowfish posted:

OH MY GOD!

He got a cooldown for hurting the good folks in his team, or for leaving the match. We've all gotten one ...

"User has disconnected (Steam Account Not Trusted)
User has received a 364-day competitive matchmaking cooldown"

/checks steam profile

VAC Bans on account: 1
Date since last ban: 0 days

Please, do yourself a favor, and just shut up.

[jonnymad]

coolmanyou1 posted:

I don't know how to prove that since I will have to give my legit unbanned key and a picture on this website?

Lol no, you just send us a link to the profile. Also please change your steam name to "I am not a hacker" so that we know you didn't pick up some random profile of a poor sap who was recently VAC'd.

[hexpunK]

huNt3r87 posted:

"User has disconnected (Steam Account Not Trusted)
User has received a 364-day competitive matchmaking cooldown"

/checks steam profile

VAC Bans on account: 1
Date since last ban: 0 days

Please, do yourself a favor, and just shut up.

Right, cool. Does that say the VAC ban is 1 year? Because I'm fairly sure that's telling you their matchmaking ban is for a year. The two systems are only tied in that matchmaking requires a VAC clear account.

Please, research how VAC works before commenting on it. It's a pretty complex system internally, but Valve dumbed the descriptions down enough for a 10 year old to understand them.

[Deadagain]

Does this comedy count as emergent gameplay?

[jonnymad]

Well OP, not to be presumptuous, but I would say you are fucked. Thanks for trying, you at least got a laugh out of me!

[coolmanyou1]

I actually Prefer SilentSpring_ As my username, I am kind of regretting picking coolmanyou1 for this site:/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198023497857

[huNt3r87]

hexpunK posted:

Right, cool. Does that say the VAC ban is 1 year? Because I'm fairly sure that's telling you their matchmaking ban is for a year. The two systems are only tied in that matchmaking requires a VAC clear account.

Please, research how VAC works before commenting on it. It's a pretty complex system internally, but Valve dumbed the descriptions down enough for a 10 year old to understand them.

You clearly don't know how it works either.

EDIT: as for it being only matchmaking: no. It bans you from CSGO entirely for a year along with other valve products. But you already knew that... didn't you? Oh wait, that's right... you didn't.

[Sievers808]

Yay! You successfully cited a source! :D
Alright so then I suppose we can rule out that it's you on that hack site...
But still, VAC is pretty airtight, afaik. If you were, in-fact, wrongfully banned, then the ban will be lifted eventually.

[jonnymad]

coolmanyou1 posted:

I actually Prefer SilentSpring_ As my username, I am kind of regretting picking coolmanyou1 for this site:/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198023497857

Just to be clear, please change your name to "I am not a hacker."

[Lijitsu]

huNt3r87 posted:

You clearly don't know how it works either.

He knows a lot more about it than you certainly seem to. For one, he's apparently actually read something about it, which you seem to be unable to. There's been two links to separate sources telling you that you're wrong, and that VAC bans are permanent yet you refuse to accept either one despite one of them even being from Valve's support website.