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Post #1Hello, everyone, I've made a second mod for Leather: it's called VACuum.
What VACuum does is, when a player successfully connects to your server, it asynchronously issues a GET to VACBans.com's web service. If VACBans says they have an active VAC ban, then it kickbans the new player. I know that this is a controversial policy, but I'm not really interested in debating its merits: server owners can choose on their own who plays on their server.
So how do you get started?
Install Leather:
1. Shut down your server.
2. Download leather: http://www.mediafire.com/download/fj...Loader-1.1.zip
3. Download furnace: https://www.mediafire.com/?8v5si150obj4poe
4. Go into your server via FTP or file manager or whatever you've got. You should have an accessible Rust_Server_data folder, so navigate into it.
5. Upload the contents of LeatherLoader.zip to this folder.
6. Download the file entitled mainData (YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BACK THIS UP OR SOMETHIN) and drop it into a folder by itself with the contents of Furnace.zip.
7. Run Furnace.exe to "cook" mainData into something leathery that runs mods!
8. Upload your cooked mainData over the old one.
That was tough, but now it's easy to install mods! By the way, quick note: as long as Leather is installed, your server will mark itself as "Modded".
Install VACuum:
1. Download VACuum: http://www.mediafire.com/download/47...Cuum-1dot1_mod
2. Create a "mods" folder in Rust_Server_data if it doesn't already exist, and drop VACuum_mod into it.
You should restart your server! Now you place a finger in the dyke of endless hackers and dupers.
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You say that like the hackers all run around on the same account they've been banned on.
Not everyone is as dumb as that mr wightgod guy who has like 15 vac bans and still uses his account.
Sure this stops vac banned but a lot of the hackers i've seen have recently created accounts with no profiles or 10 year old accounts (6 digits) that they bought.
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It's definitely not a complete solution, but I've also heard a lot of reports of crazy unstoppable hackers with a pair of VAC bans on their accounts. It's a help but not a complete solution.
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Cool, so more $$$s goes into Rust.
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HAHA! VACuum, very clever. Any chance you can modify it so that you can set parameters for a VAC'd player's last ban? When I host a server, I definitely will not want VAC'd players on my server, but if their ban is older than, say, a year, it doesn't seem fair that they shouldn't be allowed access, so I don't want to shut everyone out.
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So because I got VAC banned from MW2 for hosting a dedicated server way back in 2009, or my account was hacked and the person who hacked my account cheated and got my account banned on Counter Strike, I shouldn't be allowed to play on servers for a completely different game?
I never understood the logic of insta-banning people for having a ban on record, especially since you can't get bans reversed if say, they were caused by something out of the account owners control.
I think you should rethink your stance on "debating the merits" of your mod. Just my opinion though, of course.
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For some reason the vacbans.com web service doesn't offer that information. If you can get them to wise up or find another web service for me to use, I'd love to add that feature. I'm also planning on adding a whitelist if people you trust not to hack Rust are real dumb and got themselves banned.
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That first part doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If someone is banned in rust, they wouldn't be able to join the server anyway, right? So why would you even have a mod if VAC is already keeping people who are banned from playing on the server.
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Good you put a virus scan. Inb4 everyone gets a RAT from this.
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I think it's pointless to debate the relative merits of different types of wrenches with a wrench manufacturer. Debate with the carpenter who chooses to use them.
A few things: I'm completely fatigued of hearing about how your friend's little brother got onto your account and was lured into a hacked lobby in 2007 while a trojan your grandmother installed from email faked out VAC by activating noclip on a server you adminned. Apparently nobody was ever banned from VAC for cheating, it's a software whose only purpose is to generate dramatic tragedies.
Even ignoring the fact that VAC bans have always been appealable (and that VAC appeals process is well-known because false positives are rare enough to be historically notable), I think we can agree that the vast majority of those with VAC bans are those who've shown an inclination toward cheating in the past, and as a server owner they seem like an easy group to exclude and get the most utility in terms of reduced hacking. I'm sorry if your personal tragedy causes you to be caught up in all this, hopefully the whitelist feature will help you.
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I mean people were dumb and got themselves VAC-banned in another game.
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Accidents happen. People make mistakes. People get wrongfully banned for various reasons.
All I'm saying is being banned in one game shouldn't mean someone should be labeled a cheater in every game and universally shunned. It's just ignorant to think that's a good idea.
But hey it's just my opinion. I got banned in a game for a very illegitimate reason, I must be a dirty no good hacker who's just out to ruin everyone's day.
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I'm not making any value judgment about every game, or a universal judgment about what should or should not happen to people with VAC bans. I'm saying that I don't really want them on my server, and if you feel the same way, here's a tool.
Please consider the fact that VAC bans used to be one year, then five years. Now they're permanent. This wasn't an arbitrary decision- it was made because the recidivism rate among those who receive VAC bans was so deeply through the roof that Valve determined that giving those individuals second chances was pointless.
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You very clearly are making a judgement about people with VAC bans with that last sentence.
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Apparently excluding anyone from my server is labeling people cheaters and universally shunning them. Fine.
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Great idea. I agree that admins should have the final say in who plays on their server since they are the ones footing the bill. If players don't agree, then there are PLENTY of other servers for them to play on.
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You're not excluding "anyone" you're specifically excluding people with VAC bans. That's why you made this mod. Did you completely forget the whole purpose of your creation, or are you just throwing a fit?
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This is pretty cool! I can't wait to see what other mods you come up with.
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One of us certainly is- I'm sorry that you feel I don't have the right to decide who plays on my server, and I'm afraid that we are not going to be able to come to any agreement on that issue.
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Likewise! I've been told in no uncertain terms that if I don't get shared doors together soon, Leather will die a rather prompt death at the hands of Oxide. :-P
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CanVox, what are you apologizing for? If people don't like/agree with your mod, then so what? They don't have to use it. That's why games can be modded. I don't think servers should allow instant crafting, but they do. Don't like it? Play on another server.
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I was never arguing in the first place? I was simply stating my opinion and the fact that I think your close-mindedness on the issue is absurd.
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These might be my favorite two consecutive sentences I've read on this forum.
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If you've been falsely vac banned I feel for you I really do... But I don't want you on my server.
Every single story of false banning has a common thread, stupidity, just consider it a stupid tax and play on servers that allow you on them. Im sure all of the wrongly banned will join you and it will be the ubberest best server in the universe.
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ty for this canvox
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This sounds very useful, thank you.
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Banned in other games for cheating so get preemptively banned on a Rust server?
I like it.
It's like credit, but for character instead of cash.
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Congratulations on another successful mod, I'll be keeping an eye on Leather c:
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This is why people us the sv exploit.
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"all people who cheat are bad people that should never be forgiven"
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yeah people were stupid when they were twelve years old and downloaded free hacks for css
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I know a really great guy who got his account from a friend, who only gave him it because it had a VAC-ban on it from MW2.
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Got a few questions if you don't mind answering.
What happens when VACBans takes longer to respond than it takes the client to connect? For example, if a hacker has started DDoSing VACBans and their site takes an age to respond - what happens then?
I can only see two scenarios, the hacker gets let in - or nobody gets let in.
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Holy balls people, CanVox already stated that this isn't a complete solution, and he realizes that it is a controversial method of keeping 'possible' hackers out, and that not every VAC-Tagged account is a hacking scumbag. He is 100% aware of this, can you not fucking read.
He's also not forcing anyone to use it, but laying out the possibility for any server owner to do so IF he wants to. It's not his fucking responsibility if a server owner chooses to use it.
There will be plenty servers without this. Stop the fuck crying already and go to another fucking server.
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Great work can, however adding a 'white' list for select people would be ideal. If you added that, our server will definitely run this!
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Great mod CanVox, but definitely looking for a whitelist mod.
*cracks the whip*
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The VACBans communication runs in a separate thread- if the VAC'd user connects while Vacbans is down, he'll be let in. Keep in mind, though, that VACuum executes a kickBAN, so once VACBans catches a player, he's out for good.
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Can you post source for this mod on github please.
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To be fair a lot of people got vacced from MW2 and 3 for shit they didn't even do.
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I went to jail once. Nobody in jail was guilty of the crimes they were arrested for. I wasnt guilty of the crime i was arrested for. The judge thought otherwise about ALL of us... Ooops, even though i didnt do anything wrong, i was arrested, found guilty, and paid fines...!
Moral of the story:
Whatever it was i didnt do, i wont do it again!
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No one is forcing you to run this on your server, it's entirely optional.
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What if someone's using a friends account, and they have one vac ban?
They have to be banned on other servers?
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hackers will always cry bro just dont feed them.
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