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Post #1Rust is starting to get to me.
There's no way as a freshspawn to get better unless you are very lucky. Personally, I keep getting killed by an M4 or a rock... it doesn't matter. No one cares about fresh spawns. And in fact, if you are already powerful (well armed, protected, etc.) there's no consequence for killing anyone. Freshspawns drop bandages... and everyone may have building supplies.
I've joined every server I could, just so I could find a server where people are friendly. And yet, there's no such thing. The best solution for the problem is to join PVE servers, but why join them?
I bet my average living time is about 20 minutes. Because either I'm killed as I spawn, or I'm killed when I'm really far ahead after 8 hours of work because of no reason.
Other wise, I don't know what much to do about it.
I've tried building very far away, or joining servers with low player count, but something has to be done about KOS in this game... it's just sickening. I thought DayZ had it bad, but this is terrible. I may have met 3 people in my life time in this game who don't kill on sight.
Now, killing will never be removed... and imo I'd like it not to.
But I think there should be some sort of punishment for killing. Maybe killing someone can cause you vision to go fuzzy, like radioactive or something? I'm not sure. Just something that could slow down or decrease KOS.
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Learn to play more efficient. Learn the map. Join a PVE server if you must. In PVP servers, killing will be had. That's literally what is going to happen. Find low population servers.
These are all suggestions.
You will be killed regardless anyway. You're told to be wary of anyone and everyone, and rightly so, if PVP is on. Then PVP is what you're going to get.
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Suck it up, pass out in safe, remote and unaccessable areas (atm my body is sleeping in a place you need to break your legs to get to), make a home in such an area, craft a bed, start storing items, craft armour to live longer, craft a bow to easily hunt animals, stock up on food, bows, hatchets and any resources you find, make a furnace, craft a metal door, make a second home this time not a shack but a home with a foundation, place metal doors on it, place bed there, place a furnace there, stock up on everything slightly, take some food, a bow and plenty of arrows and go farm zombies, try to get useful blueprints, research kits etc etc as soon as you hit something very valuable head back home and put it away, learn to make a pickaxe, some guns and whatever you can, start building a safer yet inconspicuous base, become independent, maintain the base and THEN look for friends.
That was a long sentence. Seriously, don't run around pointlessly, if you're really desperate then 30 minutes into the game you should have some food, a stone hatchet and a bed placed in some hidden area (there's PLENTY).
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It is annoying being killed as a fresh spawn, by somebody with an assault rifle and fully clad in kevlar gear... But it's never going to change.
What really takes the biscuit is people using cheats/hacks. Twice now we've left servers because people were no clipping through our base walls and killing us but when we shot back they didn't even take any damage.
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Freshly made server last night. Just dont roam around in peoples places and youll be safe :)
(User was banned for this post ("don't advertise your server in random threads" - postal))
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most likely admins which are abusing thier powers
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Oh look, another one of these threads. What is this, the 1000th?
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best way to play , stay naked , find other naked people , talk to said naked people , if they friendly form a group with them
repeat those steps 3 times till a group of four has been had.
now you got mates to scrounge around with.
go kill noobs
muahahaah the cycle of evil
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Back on the web browser and onto steam.. players would transfer there goods from base to base safely.. by going out naked with there inventory empty b/c people didnt always kill fresh looking spawns.. but Soon to find out that these soo called fresh spawns where just transferring goods...
The game came to be kill all on site being fresh or not.. b/c you do not know if they are fresh or not.. They could tell you that they are but really they could have 3 sets of kevlar in there inventory with c4.. you just never know
Thats why players kill fresh spawns.. IMO
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That's kind of the point of PvP servers. You know.. player versus player.
If you're needing to learn, join a PvE server. They're great to learn how to play and arm yourself with knowledge for PvP servers.
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No it doesn't
Edited:
I wish it could be reduced somewhat, but not stop
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why was this rated as dumb because clearly it isnt when there are admin the do abuse their power
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A good possible "fix" would be to make the environment more deadly. This is what in real life makes people group up instead of just shooting everyone you see. Not a perfect solution, but an idea.
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Quick solution to community servers.. Dont play them.. its easy as that..
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It's their server, unfortunately they can use their administrator status however they'd please, seeing as they pay for it. Easiest solution is to just find a new server to play.
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They're paying to extend a service, not to do what they want, and Facepunch ought to have some T&C for server admins to ensure their game isn't tarnished by admin abuse.
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Then servers owners would not want to make servers on the game regardless, killing the amount of servers out there that can be played and enjoyed.
In fact I have never even heard of a game that uses this method to stop admin abuse, I would love to hear about the games that do.
When you pay for a server, it's Your server all rights and what goes on it belong to you.
I would also like to hear your method of enforcing this
Sounds good on text huh?
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Exactly. I bought a server and while I am not a douche, I am paying for it, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want.
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i usually spawn in do some stonecombat, get a pipe shotgun, kill a guy with a gun, take his gun, build a base, sleep in the base, kill peoples outside my base, getting allies, kill more peoples, sleep again, make food and have 10 times more guns than i need for 10 lifes and then i just sit around being happy with my stuff. ye
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Unfortunately as much as I hate admin abusers and shitty servers owners, there is no perfect world, there will always be a flaw of wherever you play.
Private servers, tighter restrictions on such things of KOS and active admins that can stop it, but this does not mean there will be nice admins.
Public servers, no abusive admins to worry about, roam and do as much the game allows you to do, yet there are no rules or control on anything that goes on, do whatever the hell you want pretty much.
Take your pick, whatever best suits you.
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Bandits will still bandit. They don't care about the environment. I sure don't after about 15 minutes of playing generally.
The reason people group up in real life is the sense of community in their area. Perfect strangers aren't going to meet and band together most likely... Because you can't trust them and vice versa.
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Idk what you're on about, it's fun as hell to go around killing everyone I see.
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If you get killed on sight, stay out of sight.
God damn it.
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"I keep getting killed because i'm bad at this game, NERF KOS" - OP
... And this is why we can't have nice things..
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koS is the law of the land. of course you can live above it, but as a rule always go caveman except for serious business.
also learn to run, most M4 people are surprisingly bad at accuracy at ranges more than 10m. also to add insult to injury use all consumables to them to make them waste time.
there's nothing more exhilarating than making a KoSer waste a load of bullets in(failing) to kill you. happened to me today about 5 times, it's hilarious and i've become my group's gopher.
i'm being nice to you OP by giving tips to improve
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These threads make me yawn. Go play some DayZ and see what happens. People will kill your ass or handcuff you and draw your blood and screw you harder, then kill you.
If you think this KoS shit is bad here, really... you're just a terrible player if that's how you view it.
Same with DayZ.. inevitably you will die. It's only a matter of time. Get over it and get better or get out and go play a different game where you can cry to their forum population and they might actually shed a tear in sympathy with you.
I've been KoS'd many times as a noob. All I do is click respawn and start over. It's only my own fault for being stupid enough to roam in the open where people can see me and blow my head off with an m4 / p250.
You have no one to cry to but yourself, because in the end... it's your own fault and your own problem, fresh spawn or not.
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