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Post #81this game is really bad.I can play skyrim and call of duty black ops 2 but I can't play this game because I have freeze problem.I want my money back steam !
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Lost my stuff more times than I'd want to but fuck it. Whenever you die, you learn something more. Now I don't rush like a retarded fuck into area, now I inspect it and etc., so yeah. And don't build a stronghold of you're alone, as some people have mentioned already, just build 1x1 ir 2x2 house and hold your stuff there.
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i know how to play the game properly, hide up get some stuff, create m4's and c4's then go gang raping noobs, greifing noobs and generaly abusing people :).
If i wanted a fair pvp game id play battlefield, but i wanna potshot people with rocks so ill stay playing this cos im too nuby to shoot at someone with the same weapon power as me :).
That is all ive seen so far. I can only guess the people defending it are the ones doing it. Once and if the military weapons go, you will see everone will be much happier!
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If military weapons go: A) The game will be boring as shit and will be cluttered with buildings to the sky. B) You guys will just complain about the Bow being "Too Strong". Then the hatchet. then whatever other weapon you fail to learn how to build and use yourself.
I find it hillarious that so many people on this forum cry about how the guns are too easy to make yet that they should be removed because it is "Unfair" at the same time. If they are so easy to craft why do you not have one?
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i suggested the use of TNT. not as strong as c4 but home made. So buildings can still get destroyed but it will be more controlled, hopefully. i only really have an issue with the fully auto guns.
Bow and arrows - cool
crossbows - cool
home made pipe guns - awesome
And incase no one still understands my point, i can make and use all the weapons... but i can also use all them weapons plus more in pretty much every other game i own. But what i cant do is the other stuff this game offers with the pvp action.
How do military weapons make this game fun for you?
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It gives me something to strive for when I get killed. All that limiting to single shot weapons would do is turn this into a WarZ fest where people sit in a corner with a homemade shotgun waiting to blast someone who walks in.
Again I ask the same question: If you have the same ability to build a full auto rifle as everyone else then why is it a problem for you that it is in the game? You speak as though it is somehow an unfair advantage.
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But if it wasnt their you would strive for the next weapon down the line. It takes no skill to kill some one with an M4, with a home made gun it would. Or even the bow and arrow it does, if you cower in a corner then you obvious lack that skill.
We give everyone m4's. Then let them shoot it out? So i may aswell go on battlefield and play a pvp FPS which does that a hell of alot better than this game. So wheres the logic?
Oh and Warz is shite. i was one of the ones that got refunded for that bullshit they released.
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Sorry bro you lost me there. Full auto guns are hard as hell to shoot and if you had actually took the time to craft one you would know this. The recoil in Rust is about as real as it gets in a video game.
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What he meant to say was, "Maybe you should make Rust the way I want to play" making everyone who doesn't like how I play go play something else... instead of me saying oh this is a survival game in ALPHA! this game may change so I have a better fighting chance (and it will) or I can go play a game more suited to my structured play style
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That is basically every crying post in this forum. They want the entire game mechanic rewritten because it is too hard for them. No wonder the devs barely look at the posts.
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A large part of it has to do with the m4 having great stats for an automatic weapon (heavy DMG, ROF and easy to control recoil) makes dropping people a bad habit for me. I do recall them saying a lot of the less homemade weps were placeholders it'd be nice though if you could still get military grade gear from drops (but no way to repair would be good to help prevent massing and they are adding durability so why not?)
also since resources are only in certain spots you can camp them easy and kill people who gather them for you I remember my friend saying and I quote "let the peasants gather for us" they are going to make resources procedural which will stop that as well as lock bps will discourage me from sticking around to loot you (probably not going to wait around for five minutes if I don't have lockpicking thing)
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Isn't your post violating forum rules?there are pve (player vs environment) servers. It could be a good idea to try those out if you're finding it difficult against others?
Why don't some of you guys on here who are struggling individually, band up. Stick together and build your own little settlement? Could be an idea worth exploring. :)
Anyway, this is a survival game, you should be able to survive.
Maybe buffs when you're offline for more than x hours? Maybe booby traping your stash?
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You do realize any buff you suggest for "new players" will also apply to the "bandits" you are trying to fend from, thus doing nothing to actually make any diffrence. Why can't players just learn how to play the game instead of asking for a built in handicap?
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If you do not like PVP then play on a PVE server. On the server i play on there are multiple bandit crews running around and robbing people. Luckily for 2 days i have not had my base broken into. I also am guilty of KOS due to so many people being unfriendly. Now if i encounter someone i usually yell friendly and if they do not respond or at least crouch to show confirmation of friendly status I blast them with a shotgun.
I also find it is best to only farm naked and not with a hatchet. Also moving around at night is a bad idea as that is when the kevlar bandits are usually outside waiting to catch someone slipping.
This is a survival game with PVP in mind. Everyone complaining about getting killed or this or that needs to just get their skills up and pay attention to what they are doing. When mining you need to look around and pay attention to your surrondings and noises. I play with headphones because people tend to creep up from behind.
Oh and i ran into a twitch.tv streamer last night who was going to blast me but luckily i saw his stream and mentioned it then he let me go :)
I have never been let go by kevlar guys EVER. They do always seem to shoot... This game is fun and everyone saying 13 yr olds wah wah wah bla bla bla... well from my experience these kevlar guys are not COD players that are 13. Stereotyping crybabies! Play PVE if you are scared of PVP.
THE REST OF US ENJOY THIS GAME AS IS AND LOOK FORWARD TO NEW FEATURES.
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The game is in constant development. One of the things we want to change soon is the distance you spawn from players so you have enough time to get yourself sorted out. We're planning on making the uber guns really difficult to obtain and mantain. To be honest we're happy that the game works as well as it does so far and people can play dozens of hours in it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sorry you're frustrated but this *is* supposed to be a brutal game. The fact that you get steamrolled by a group of bandits and they take all your stuff might suck, but it's not as concerning as new players who spawn in and type 'hi I'm new how do I open my invent...' before catching a 556 round in the skull. But with that being said I do know what you mean about starting essentially from scratch after a raid and I have a few ideas how to somewhat mitigate that feeling. Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that you are so vulnerable and everything is always on the line is what makes your heart pump when you hear footsteps outside your house. It's a difficult balance, There are ideas being bounced around and rest assured the last thing we want is a game that isn't fun :)
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Thank god, someone that understands why this game is enjoyable! :D
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Lol, of course he understands, he is helping make the game.
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Man, every post of yours just seriously rocks in the "positive information" department. I'm curious and understand if you all haven't approached this yet for prioritizing, but if you have, could you tell us if the idea would be to expand resource nodes across the current playable map to help spread players out more, to create a secondary map that's aimed at a smaller server player base, or is it something that doesn't require attention given your hinted comment of possible solutions helping circumvent the above frustrations completely?
Either way, thanks for the above comment, you again, seriously rock.
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People like you is what make every game fall into shit.
"EVERYTHING IS FINE", no it's not. Always complain, always let the devs know what could be better.
The guy pointed out an obvious flaw "It's MUCH easier to steal stuff than it is to make stuff". Why bother building at all when you can just band and fuck everyone?
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Have you considered if that was the intention of the developers? Many of us enjoy that aspect of the game, both doing it to others and having it done to us.
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So why bother with the entire aspect of the crafting? People that craft are like cattle, just generating resources for raiders.
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This game makes you waste more time then kids doing dungeons in WoW.
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"Alpha"
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You don't need to apologize
You're quite nice guy
He's the rude one
I didn't played rust yet but it seems pretty enjoyable game
The solution for current problem could be adding command / cvar for server owners to disable satchels
Also maybe another cvar / command that allows server owners to disable destroying someones buildings 15 - 30 mins after they quit the game
So they can be only attacked when they are actually playing
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I think that the developers wanted to make a balanced game, if they don't I am sorry I supported them. Right now there is nothing in the game to make a bandit stop and say, 'wait is it worth it', I dont mind raiding and I really don't think gunplay should go away, the idea of a pve only version of this game sounds like shit to me. But I do think that there needs to be some sort of deterrent to SOSing. I do not think that it should be harder than crafting. In a perfect work it would be just as east yo progress in the game as a Hero as it is as a bandit. But that is impossible. I just wish it was closer that the current distribution.
I want people to start asking the question "What can balance the bandit vs the care bares" what makes the bandit think twice about killing someone. Because right now there is nothing making you think twice about killing a new spawn. IMHO it should not be worth it for a bandit/vet to kill someone that has been playing for less than a few hours. But it should be worth it to try and raid another vets house.
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To all those who are having problems starting out in this game- My clan has a server running right now that would be perfect for you.
We're new so there's lots of space to build!
The majority of us are members of -SV9- Clan and we're always looking to help people and get them set up in this game.
We are a PVP/Sleeper server but have a safe and friendly atmosphere- You will be left to your own devices setting up a base and gathering resources and still have the option to raid an established base when you're geared!
We have 3 friendly admins, willing to help and give advice when requested.
We're also planning community events within the server with lots of rewards up for grabs!
On top of all this, we have a full teamspeak channel to share with you and your friends.
Server IP: 84.200.193.113:28035
-SV9- PVP/Sleeper Enabled
TS Channel: 178.33.92.214
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Heart pumping is right.... I was being chased by 4 naked guys last night and i had a silenced MP5 and was just mining. These guys blasted me down to 3HP and i wasted all of my health packs while trying to run away through trees and make my way into the mountain. The whole time my heart is pumping and beating i was scared shitless... the only sound i heard were the footsteps right on my heels and the gunfire following me. I LOVE THIS GAME!
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Not to be an ass but almost every survival game, DayZ, WarZ(I.S.S) and Rust have turned from survival to Call of Duty in a larger scale with zombies as a nuisance. Although by definition of survival there's several things the survivor has to think of, one being sanity which can something literally kill you. I think you should really add in some sort of sanity system that where by killing other survivors/not surviving with other players can cause damage maybe even push it to the point of suicide if the players character becomes too insane.
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But that would punish players that are fancy on Pk. You shouldn't punish them, you should just give more tools for the people defend themselves.
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Indeed it is.
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Why do I seem like I'm the only person who isn't having issues with this?
As soon as I started playing I ran to the rocks on the coast and built a small house with my sleeping bag and gear. Every once and a while I ran back and forth from the resource forests and nuketown to get gear and I slowly built myself up. Eventually a bunch of newbies settled around me and we grouped up. We have now switched servers and built a massive castle with over 40 metal doors keeping our stuff safe.
On a separate note, people who complain about killing naked dudes are ignorant. I've had bands of naked guys run up me before asking for help and when they get close they pull out M4s and blow me away. People purposely stay naked because they know they are less likely to be killed. I myself almost never wear kevlar because of the message it sends to others. Naked dudes can also be a great source of resources. Sometimes when I kill a player who looks like he just spawned, I can get stacks of wood and ore which saves me significant amounts of time. It all comes down to resources in the end.
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Killing someone with 3 bullets from a fully auto is hard?
Who wants the entire game mechanics changed? Because people want to remove one weapon? I dont know why i bother replying, you obviously dont read the posts properly, or just too dumb to understand.
You didnt read the post properly again did you? He never mentioned 'new' players. And the option he suggested would benifit both bandits and everyone else.
So the intention was to allow greifers and abusers? You keep argueing a point that has no relevance. You either a) havnt experienced the greifers and abusers like the new batch of players have, or b) are one of them.
How can you guys say its OK to continually kill the same noob over and over until he rage quits? Telling people to goto a PvE server is not a justifiable solution. People want the PvP, like myself. Thats one of the whole points of the game. But we also want a fighting chance not be greifed or abused by certain people that get a kick out of it.
Im glad some poeple have actually tried to identify the problems and offer solutions. What Helk posted is a sigh of relief that the devs are listening to us newcomers experiencing the problems. Having M4's very hard to maintain will hopefully remove the people abusing the system. I hope the same is done for C4 :).
Though Helk, you might want to run that by Insideknight first. You remove the capacity to easily get an M4 to greif with, he will be one of the ones crying like a carebear because he may have to actually use some skill for a change :).
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Not everyone will experience the same problems, i guess thats just the way the game goes. But quite a few people noticably do.
And in my experience, its not the kjilling of naked people thats the problem, its the greifers. The ones that go round killing noobs for fun, and their seems to be alot of them because its easy to do.
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Alright this is what i did and it worked for me. Go on a server where theres like 30-80 amount of people. When u first start JUST RAID ZOMBIE CAMPS!!! You will get blueprints and will be able to learn new things to make. So next time you die, you will be able to make these new items, (ex Kevlar, m4, explosives, etc.) Now once you get lots of blueprints this is what you need to do.
1. Find a area for a house. Make sure that it is near a major road. Why? So you can go back later to more zombie camps and raid.
2. Build a house. ALWAYS BUILD A HOUSE HIDDEN! I prefer in the mountains. I made a house in the mountains and its been there over 3 days and i play on a server with over 100+ people. Another tip, is build your house with many stories. I have about a six story house, so they have to use lots of explosives to eventually get to me. Just build a decent house and expand off of it.
3. Gather lots of resources. (This was ment to be put inbetween step 1 and 2.)
4. TRUST NOONE! Noone. Nada. Nobody. Dont trust anyone at all. When u see people who you think you can kill, kill them. Its good to kill naked people, because lots of times they have been gathering lots of resources.
5. Raid and get stronger. Build weapons, armor, raid bases, and be super powerful.
Tips and Advice
When i built my house i didnt put 1 storage crate in it. Why? So i live on a mountain, and there are lots of other hidden mountain spots. I placed my storage crate on a hidden rock and placed stuff in there, so if you get raided you will still have your stuff! I have some storage crates in my house and in secret areas. Not only that, but i also put sleeping bags in my house, and at those secret locations, so if you get destroyed, you will either spawn in your house or spawn in your secret place with all of your goodies. Also if you have a friend who plays this game, play with them. A 2 man team is so much better than going solo.
I have been killed several times probably over 50 times and i know how you feel, it sucks. But just keep trying and playing. Its awesome if you can learn lots of new blueprints, because when more people come to play the game, its gonna be harder for them to get the blueprints and you will have lots of valuable blueprints. Good Luck Dude!
-Kyle
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No not really, this is suppose to be a survival game correct? Then it shouldn't be Call of Duty or Battlefield with zombies as the nuisance. It should have more survival features such as a sanity system, fatigue and a sleep system.
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idk what you guys are crying about i can logon any server and start from scratch be up and runnin in ful kevlar with guns a house etc within a few hrs.... this game is WAY too easy if you ask me.
TIP #1 BE STEALTHY RUN AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHEN YOU FIRST JOIN
TIP #2 GATHER A FEW BLUEPRINTS AND SCOUT THE MAP BEFORE YOU START FARMING OR BUILDING
TIP #3 PICK A SPOT WHERE YOU DO NOT SEE ALOT OF TRAFFIC MOVING IN AND OUT
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To be honest, I don't mind being killed by geared guys when I am back at the hatchet stage, being it by a military grade weapon or some kind of high precision crossbow. This is only flair, they are certain stages over my tech-tree and would "out-gun" me anyway. I like the archaic flair more and I think you can resemble most functions (zoom optics may be the line here, full auto crossbows are pretty much out of the option though), but that is just taste.
What I would love to see added is some kind of trapping system instead. If some bandit feels the urge to raid my base at nighttime, good for him. But give me the satisfaction of knowing that he had to pass my sadistic labyrinth of ball-traps, trip-wires and decoy floors with spikes beneath :)
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I know the feeling dude, you need to learn the map understand heated areas. Improve your gun play and aim. I used to suck at this game and i thought it was horrible just takes getting used to. :)
If you need any help feel free to add me on steam- **MrIsaac
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those i helped in the beginning ended up killing/raiding me, there are really sick people in this game.
utterly disgusting behaviour and i remember u Mr issac, u are 1 of them
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My first 3 hours where like boring to dead and I could not see where I was and everything looked a like. Now I spawn and allmost directly know where I am and where to go. This game takes time like csgo does.
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