[creztor]

Servers need to be setup officially like other games. Have one or so official server per region (NA, EUR, Asia etc.). The appeal of this game to me is playing with other people. I see no fun in playing on servers that only have a couple of people with no new faces/players joining. However, I am sure official servers would incur some kind of cost? Monthly subscription fee or whatever. Might be worth it if it meant playing with a lot more people on a populated server instead of a ghost town/world.

[d214315]

i wish players can only play together in a unique server.Only one!

[Fresc]

I don't mind private servers as long as there are also some main and official servers available.

[Eyrin]

Stop crying and stop trying to force people to play as you want !

Sicc117 posted:

nah, no buthurt.
Deal with it, my arguments are valid.
You are just swearing around. Beware: Tenager inc.

Age 21...
Join Date 10th December 2013...

You are faced with people who have age to be your father... (my first kid is older than you !)


We don't want to play with "our" children !

[Dunaforn]

There are many good servers, with active admins and a friendly community. I personally don't believe that private servers should be removed, it would take away a lot of the game.

[Famer]

Dunaforn posted:

There are many good servers, with active admins and a friendly community. I personally don't believe that private servers should be removed, it would take away a lot of the game.

Nobody is contesting that there aren't "good servers" with "good admins". Complete lack of consistently, well populated, good servers with good admins is the problem.

[thebacon]

Hey guys, isn't it interesting how even with an official tab, there's only 9 people on the 3 official servers. ;)

[StryfeKhaos]

thebacon posted:

Hey guys, isn't it interesting how even with an official tab, there's only 9 people on the 3 official servers. ;)

People continue to conflate the "official vs private" issue with the 'too may servers' issue. I don't care whether they are private or official, I just don't like that there aren't a near infinite number of them. InsaneParrot et al IMO have confused things by making it about official vs. private. Some people are worried about admin abuse, but that resolves itself IMO. What can't resolve itself is there being so many servers that people can always find a server where they can farm and build without ever being hassled because there's hardly anyone on it. IMO, much of Rust's gameplay depends on there being a player contention for resources (wood, stone, rad area boxes, airdrops) which can't occur when people are spread thin over too many servers.

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thebacon posted:

Hey guys, isn't it interesting how even with an official tab, there's only 9 people on the 3 official servers. ;)

Actually, Helk just said they were maxed out, so this is probably the server player count bug, not a reflection of people not wanting to play on the official servers.

[MrMeowers]

thebacon posted:

Hey guys, isn't it interesting how even with an official tab, there's only 9 people on the 3 official servers. ;)

Servers player count is wrong as he'll even with 1 it's full..

[ZombieJesus]

This debate is incredibly premature and is being had by idealists who do not understand the economic reasons for private servers. It is premature because what most are complaining about is a lack of players not the amount of servers. It was probably premature to allow the purchase of so many private servers but it was done with an eye to the future of the game. With the Steam release the main problem of having servers with low populations will be fixed.

Now we get to the problem of idealists. Ideally there would be only official servers with admins making sure the player base was not cheating. This costs money, money that a $20 game does not have to spend unless it becomes the next huge hit. Even then from an economic standpoint a company would be dumb to spend money when the user base is willing to host the servers for them. At best you might see a few official servers with the rest being private.

This argument is the equivalent of saying we should all get millions of dollars and never have to work again. Sure that would be great, but it is not going to happen so why even have the discussion?

[gk99]

Sethxi posted:

I'm noticing a lot of the people with horrible English are getting rated dumb, while when someone comes by with extreme formal perfect English they get like 15 agrees lol.

That's what happens when someone's more intelligent and/or has an agreeable opinion.

[Zeroniite]

I understand why some people would want the private servers removed. There are way too many kids somehow obtaining the money for a monthly payment and abusing their adminship (which, to be fair is their server) and it results in a poor experience for other players. Also, there is such a scattered playerbase, it's ridiculously hard to find a nicely populated server.

I however, think that private servers should be left in the game. If in the right hands, they can become quite successful without the players and passerbys having a negative experience. And as a server owner, I like having my own server that I get to watch grow.

Instead of complaining and asking for the removing of private servers, why not work together to create a proper blacklist of these usernames of abusive admins or server with known abusive admins. Have maybe a mod willing to create a sticky or so, and with valid proof, add a username(SteamID)/server IP & Server name to the list. I think it is more likely to get the dev's help in that aspect than to have them take away private servers.

Some of you may not agree with me, but keep the private servers, and work towards creating a blacklist.

[eelikay]

I'm going to stay neutral on this but I don't want more people to see it so bamp.

[cbale2000]

I think people will find that as more people buy the game and more features are added to it, private servers will be less of an issue than they are now. Virtually every other game has private servers in some way or another, so I don't see it being an issue here.

[thorin987]

If you don't like private servers, play on the laggy official servers with the no clippers.

[eelikay]

My issue with the private servers is that they are only available to certain hosters that can rent out the servers. Why not make them available to everyone, because people like me who can run servers with a decent internet connection shouldn't have to rely on renting servers.

[thebacon]

StryfeKhaos posted:

People continue to conflate the "official vs private" issue with the 'too may servers' issue. I don't care whether they are private or official, I just don't like that there aren't a near infinite number of them. InsaneParrot et al IMO have confused things by making it about official vs. private. Some people are worried about admin abuse, but that resolves itself IMO. What can't resolve itself is there being so many servers that people can always find a server where they can farm and build without ever being hassled because there's hardly anyone on it. IMO, much of Rust's gameplay depends on there being a player contention for resources (wood, stone, rad area boxes, airdrops) which can't occur when people are spread thin over too many servers.

Edited:



Actually, Helk just said they were maxed out, so this is probably the server player count bug, not a reflection of people not wanting to play on the official servers.

I'm sure alot of servers are maxed out. Official faster simply because theyre displayed first. and maybe some people just want to farm on their own without having to compete very often. There isnt any reason to force people to conform to a playstyle just because its how you want to play.


Posted on phone so formatting and errors will be there.

[xland44]

ErikPutz posted:

Wow, you are more selfish than I thought. Those are your opinions, and not everyone shares them.
What you want is not to have some servers with a high population, you want to FORCE people to play the way you want them to for selfish reasons.
Just amazing.

But hey, the 179 people who vote yes, why don't you all go on the same server and stay there? If it's so much fun you wouldn't have to rely on falling back to another server since you are having fun, right?
And I doubt you 179 would be the only people playing that server so there would be enough players at least.

Nothing is stopping you from playing the way YOU want to, to have the "fun" you are talking about.
Stop caring about how other people play when it's not affecting you at all.
You people are the ones turning this into a problem when it's not. If 65% of a group of people tell you a lie, would you believe it just because 65% is agreeing to it?

Now this is not a lie per se, but you lot are trying to make it into a problem for selfish reasons, saying it's ruining the game when it's not.

"Wow, you are more selfish than I thought. Those are your opinions, and not everyone shares them."
That, by itself, is an opinion.

"Nothing is stopping you from playing the way YOU want to, to have the "fun" you are talking about."
Yes, it is - It's not fun to be on a server with only two/three people online.
"Stop caring about how other people play when it's not affecting you at all."
It is affecting us, as I just mentioned, and you realize that you're saying "Stop caring about how other people play" while, by posting this, you're doing that yourself?

"Now this is not a lie per se, but you lot are trying to make it into a problem for selfish reasons, saying it's ruining the game when it's not."
So, even when the majority wants something, it's selfish because you say so? Have you ever thought that wanting to keep private servers is a selfish thought by itself?

"You people are the ones turning this into a problem when it's not."
Or, you could say that you're the one turning this into a problem by arguing with the decision.

"If 65% of a group of people tell you a lie, would you believe it just because 65% is agreeing to it?"
Here's the difference - This isn't a lie, this is on whether what the majority prefers. This is no group, either, this is a community - Something that is much bigger than a group. Also, I'm sorry to say this, but polls don't lie - And at the time of posting, 65% (Currently 240 people) want servers removed.
If you want a different response, I'll use your very own idiotic logic:
"If 35% of a group tell you a lie, would you believe it because 65% is agreeing to it?"

[NgW-Nes]

Daniel Munoz posted:

The game had died down a lot ever since Private servers were added. It just isn't the same game anymore and i'm sure a lot of you would agree with me. The game isn't enjoyed the way it should be anymore and i would appreciate it if you would have your voice heard on this matter wether thats by a vote or comment leave some feedback. Thanks.

I agree with your point of view, BUT, Dev team need to add more official servers to give better latency around the WORLD.
Lucky for you, you live in USA, country of 400 Dollar PS4 =/, im from brazil, country of 4.000 reais (1740 Dollars) o.O

=]

See ya!

[Sharia]

I would be happy to play on a official (PVE/Sleeper server) if the following conditions are met:

1) No hackers/cheaters aka some type of in game program or whatever that makes it extremely hard if not impossible for idiots to hack and or cheat!

2) Mature player base


Thats it if I could play on a official public server that did these 2 things I would be more then happy to play on it, until then for me private is the way to go at least that way I can play on a server that meets my requirements!


OP: May I suggest you and your 65% pick a server and play on it ...seems to me if you all did that you would have your full server, not a permanent solution but would resolve your biggest concern for now?

[Frankieboy15]

I don't know if any of the older players from when the alpha was closed access and not as much of a hype remember the god old days when KoS wasn't common, Clans were more fun, wars were more often, servers were less crowded, One single server and the powerful clans that seemed to act as the Mafia of the server (Rama and the Group). That's what the new players don't actually experience like I/we did. And this is why I think private servers should be gone.

[Nenos]

Private servers did not kill the game, no do they scare people away.. wtf do you think these people do? hide in the closet because there is a 100 empty servers? The game sucks right now because of the dupers and the lack of content. 4hrs after logging into a server there is little to do accept hunt down people who logged in more recently then you. You cant go a weekend without logging in for fear of your house rotting, and up until this recent patch had no way to secure your home over night. The sandbox part of the game is fun, but the game is being left alone by veteran players till there is a reason to come back. Gates , fences, and a smoke bomb are not going to bring em back no more than private servers chased them away.


Private servers didnt chase me away. The dickheads with 400 c4 in their inventory that blew through my 7 story house (42 metal doors) one door at a time did. ( They had 400 c4 at the time of me looting their corpses after killing them on floor 7.)

[Radsy]

if Private servers go then i go that's all the is to it.

and Nenos well put

[Anti1460]

as a co-renter of a private server, im glad they let us. we dont use our admin powers to spawn anything. but we do exercise our admin powers to kick/ban ppl if its needed (like racist names for example, has already caused someone to be banned).

how about instead of complaining about private servers, you actually play on the official ones, or try and find a private server you like. we have had our server for about 24 hrs and we have already had about 30 different ppl join it and play and they seemed to enjoy themselves.