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USA, TN
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Can you do EU hosting? I am tired of the dreadful service and performance ideal hosting provides.
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When we get started it will probably based off our US node but we might expand.
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Great to see others wanting to do it.
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Optic-Hosting, you have my bow.
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I'm in TN, that'd be some nice ping =P
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Sumited a email to FacePunch, if we are accepted when we get situated we will have a 1st day sale!
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yup :) Great service
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I am currently unsure what the exact status of this is, we got one reply from garry asking questions about Optic, answered them still no reply. If anyone is in contact with Garry could you ask him about this?
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Ideal hosting probably paying him to keep you away
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Well as you can see from earlier in this thread they have "dreadful service and proformance".
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I'll be keeping an eye on this tread. Been wanting to know if another provider was going to set up :)
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Hope we can provide you with quality service for Rust some time.
We are ready to setup if we get a reply that would be great. Ideal having a monopoly isnt ideal.
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I hope they let Optic start hosting.
The 'Other' guys have crappy prices for what they provide.
Down 50% of the time and $200 for a basic server ?
That's retarded. Best of luck Optic-Hosting!
We need some actual server hosting here.
I know I'll be more than happy going for Optic than other guys.
Especially since they've had plenty experience in the past, and will provide a much better service.
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Thank you for your good comments!I hope they let Optic start hosting.
The 'Other' guys have crappy prices for what they provide.
Down 50% of the time and $200 for a basic server ?
That's retarded. Best of luck Optic-Hosting!
We need some actual server hosting here.
I know I'll be more than happy going for Optic than other guys.
Especially since they've had plenty experience in the past, and will provide a much better service.
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I would be interested in your services, as are many others I am sure. Ideal hosting is like the Apple of Rust game server providers, except they have a real monopoly.
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Only being honest :3
I've had experiences with Ideal,
My friend had a MineCraft server through them. (I'm pretty sure)
Anyways, it sucked, and had more downtime than that of the Rust servers.
I hope you guys will offer affordable prices, and better deals. :)
We're all rooting for you, and can't wait to have some decent services available.
To the competition - I may seem like I'm being rude, but with passed experience you guys suck. And to ask for $150 - $250 for basic deals? Has anyone even fallen for that price? I know server hosting can be expensive, but I want what i'm paying for. Not a 'Super fast Solid Server - but with 50%(+) Downtime.'
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If we become a official host we are sure we can provide for less then $100USD.
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Well, I'll begin here.
I have ran hosting services in the past, and I do know what I am talking about.
Lets begin with the first part: providing services and having the capacity to provide them.
Seeing as though, if you were allowed to be an "official host", you would be the second provider able to offer Rust servers. That said, you would most likely get a pretty large boom in orders. Do you strongly believe that you would be able to, at a lower price than the competition, offer (lets lowball this) 96% server uptime, not oversell, quick support response times, and still be around in 5 months? I will tell you now that server costs would be pretty steep. I'm not sure what Rust servers require in specs, but I would make the assumption that it takes a bit more than running Proxmox on some cheap OVH dedi to provision a few 1GB VMs.
And not to be rude, but being able to run a Minecraft server really does not show any experience in my opinion. For one, I would be willing to bet (again, not to be rude, but going off of past experiences), that you just provisioned services manually once you received orders. I'd have to recommend that you write a script (pretty simple with or without WHMCS or other billing solutions) to automatically provision services.
Also, you would need to actually register yourself as a valid business if you're going to be accepting payments, and this isn't just a hobby.
Take all of that into consideration, and I am sure Garry would too.
1. Can you provide excellent server performance near 24/7?
2. Will you have the money to stay around for more than 6 months?
3. Will you have the know-how to setup automatic provisioning (I can assure you that manual provisioning will not work for very long)
4. Are you willing to register yourself as a legitimate business?
Another question. What happened to your clients that you had with Bedrockhosting? I see that the website is offline as of now, and your optichosting site is just some cPanel default page (You shouldn't actually be using a shared hosting service if you're looking to impress, move to atleast a VPS).
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Our Bedrock clients transfered over. Also we have hosted more than just MC servers, and we do have the funds to stay afloat with our current setup for more than 8 months (we have done the math).
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Looking forward to some decent priced hosting
Current host is a complete rip off, especially considering the service levels.
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Yepp again EU Central Offline, and all Support from Ideal Hosting OFFLINE.
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Please let OH do the job of Idiot Hosting cause they cant handle their own job.
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This is the second time this person has posted doing the same thing, asking for rights to host servers in the public form, like last time you were told to contact someone like garry DIRECTLY, not via the forums.
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And if you would have read all of the thread, you would see:
What else should he do?
Im tired of a 80% of time lagging EU - Germany server and a downtime of 30-40% of the rest.
I just want to play, for me it doesn't matter who hosts the server I'm on.
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You guys run the Aussie servers right?
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Hope you guys get up and running 200$ for an alpha server is pretty outrageous
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That'll be great if you do. Knowing there's another company offering good rates now has me holding out. (hopes to buy a UK server)
I was going to buy Ideal's basic package and rent out the other one that comes with it, seems strange that the basic package has you renting 2 server instead of one.
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Got a bit interested in this thread. Not gonna compliment each side, don't know which one is better.
Optic-Hosting, I would give Garry some more time, they all are ( Prob. ) Very busy. He wont ignore you, you've just to wait ( Can take up to 2 days ). All that aside, would be nice to have a selection of hosts and a variety of prices.
But I am sure a lot of people want to know this.
You are saying that your basic package would be below 100$
But how about your most Premium package, and what would be the +'s the basic package wouldn't have but the premium would have?
( Or is this not known since you don't have the server files yet? )
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DDoS mitigation is DDoS mitigation? You saying it doesn't work very well for multiplayer games is an extremely weird thing to say, as if it doesn't work, it's not because it's a multiplayer video game.
Back to topic: Without inspecting the actual files and requirements to run the Rust server, how are you saying you'll be able to offer it for a lower rate than the current other host? That's a wild shot, Ideal Hosting may actually be offering at the lowest rate possible for the hardware required to run such a server.
I cannot find much information about 'Bedrock Hosting', just knowing that a lot of Minecraft server hosts come and go, and running one isn't that difficult. I searched for an actual business registry, and I failed to find one so I will assume you're not actually registered, which seems odd.
There are a lot of other game server providers out there that are well known and reputable that would most definitely take the chance to host Rust servers, seeing the income in it, and in the end all businesses are required to make a profit to continue running.
I just don't see it happening, sorry.
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Hopefully this is legit, you'd have to be a moron to pay what the other guy is wanting. Need more competition with server hosts.
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i Too Have experience in this field and i believe that even if you are working on your homepage you should have some form of web presance out there i'm currently getting back intgo hosting and have at least a page setup http://www.vivahosting.org.uk/.
If you are looking to host for rust then please do your reesearch as on the web there is a place where Garry has asked for mid sized hosters to get hold of him if they are interested in hosting.
Sadly your credentials as a hoster at this time is flawed to say the least no web page no way for people to contact you
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Now, to call Ideal Hosting out like this, you need to have some information regarding the actual dedicated server client. They are most definitely making profit off of their prices, without a doubt, and if they weren't they wouldn't be a business.
I do agree they should maybe sell single servers, because I don't know many individuals who want to buy two servers, they should offer single servers at half their current price.
We do not know the dedicated server specifications, nor the requirements for the game. They have to cover the cost of the server hardware, bandwidth and include room for their own profit.
But they should list more on their website, specifications and offer a single server.
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you have to look at the big picture they are looking for 149.99 euro
Thats
£125 and $202 and this is for 2 500 slot servers so thats £62.50 and $101 per server and that works out to £0.12 and $0.20 per slot thoses prices are pretty cheap.
Compare that to a 70 slot Battlefield 4 server rented from Gameservers.com thats £56 and $91 so prices are pretty good in comparison
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When it's put like that it's pretty true
People will just need to be patient and wait for more providers for a bit of competition and for providers maybe to sell smaller slot servers,
To lower the prices
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You also need to factor in the Unity engine and the way the game plays the server needs to do alot of work so it's probably going to be resource hungry aswell as for each player it probably need to render their surrounding
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No offense to the attempting up and coming providers.. But Idea-Hosting has done a great job and providing a service. They go over an above to deliver you information, You can contact them on Forums and on Skype.
I think you guys are asking the wrong questions. You should be asking people like Idea-hosting. How much would it be for a 100 slot server etc.. They seem very flexible.
This guy gets it.
Edited:
It won't let me re-edit my post so i would just like to say i meant Ideal-Hosting not Idea-Hosting. Apologies for double post and correction
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I get it cause ive hosted servers before i'd offer for rust but couldn't guarantee demand if Garry allowed others to host then i'd setup some decent offers for people.
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EU servers are extremely popular even for US players, to not have any servers based in the UK/Europe Im guessing that is going make things very hard for you (at the moment) to become the next hosting company?
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None of this even matters due to the fact that we cannot even get in touch with Garry.
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