1. Post #1
    Gold Member

    August 2013
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    I know I know, Garry isn't the biggest fan of console gaming. But it shouldn't be something that is simply thrown out the window. I am also a console guy and I feel like Rust would be a great game to have on consoles. With the next-generation getting your games on the platform seems like a much easier process especially with the PS4. The touch pad can be used as a cursor so you what have to change the whole game. It also means more money. I want to see Rust grow and expand, and i would love to hear from the devs what they think. Don't dismiss the idea. At least think about it? Thanks for reading the post.
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    It also means locking yourself into a platform's processes and expenses and needing to get very expensive-ass devkits.

    The big question is, why leave the largest platform there is, PCs? There are hundreds of millions of machines capable of running Rust out there right now. "Hundreds of millions" of PS4s is Sony's sales' team's hottest wet dream fantasy for a good reason.
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  3. Post #3
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    August 2013
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    I just don't see the negative, sony has been very developer friendly and those fees are a thing of the past
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  4. Post #4
    Hellsvien's Avatar
    October 2013
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    Man....Do not even bring consoles into this. I really don't get the idea or consoles...except for WII for active games...PC blows consoles out of the water....in so many ways.
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  5. Post #5
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    August 2013
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    Man....Do not even bring consoles into this. I really don't get the idea or consoles...except for WII for active games...PC blows consoles out of the water....in so many ways.
    This isn't a debate over which is better, sometimes i want to sit on my couch with a controller and play games without worry. Thats why i will always own a console to go along with my computer.
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  6. Post #6
    Cheese V's Avatar
    October 2013
    149 Posts
    Unity can export projects to Xbox, Ps4, mobile devices, even the Oculus Rift. as far as getting the game playable and specced it wouldnt be that hard. but this is something that wouldnt be considered until the actual release or near release of the game
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  7. Post #7
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    August 2013
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    Unity can export projects to Xbox, Ps4, mobile devices, even the Oculus Rift. as far as getting the game playable and specced it wouldnt be that hard. but this is something that wouldnt be considered until the actual release or near release of the game
    Just want to find out from Garry or one of the devs whether it is even a possibility. I would love to see a PS4 port.
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  8. Post #8
    Cheese V's Avatar
    October 2013
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    if the game gets big enough, like they dream it will and the community hopes, i wouldnt doubt a platform version will be made
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    I just don't see the negative, sony has been very developer friendly and those fees are a thing of the past
    The negative would be having to support the PS4 port and ecosystem on top of the already-vast PC version. Imagine 4 million PS4 users seeing Rust pop up in the "new games and shit" section of the dashboard and downloading the demo/buying it because hey it's $15 or whatever why not. Imagine supporting that.

  10. Post #10
    MrPancake's Avatar
    October 2013
    262 Posts
    This isn't a debate over which is better, sometimes i want to sit on my couch with a controller and play games without worry. Thats why i will always own a console to go along with my computer.
    Then just wait for the SteamBox,SteamOS :P
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  11. Post #11
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    August 2013
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    Then just wait for the SteamBox,SteamOS :P
    It isn't a console, there is no reason i would choose the SteamBox over the PS4
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  12. Post #12
    Dennab
    October 2013
    78 Posts
    It isn't a console, there is no reason i would choose the SteamBox over the PS4
    The SteamBox is a modular console, I don't see your point here. It is mainly for games, has an OS only for games, a controller and everything.

    Sorry for the derail, just had to clarify that.


    About the Rust on PS4, Garry has stated that he does not want FPSes on controllers, and he will not aim to do so. Who knows, maybe the Steam Controller - Which is appareantly supposed to be able to compete with keyboard+mouse - Changes his mind. Probably won't be like that though.

  13. Post #13
    Cheese V's Avatar
    October 2013
    149 Posts
    well there is always the occulus rift + hydra
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  14. Post #14

    September 2013
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    How about just.. no.
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  15. Post #15
    Cheese V's Avatar
    October 2013
    149 Posts
    why wouldnt you want to experience rust in vr?

  16. Post #16
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    October 2013
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    PC > PS4
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  17. Post #17

    September 2013
    38 Posts
    Garry and consoles...

  18. Post #18

    October 2013
    94 Posts
    PC > PS4
    You missed the point. Having a game available on console, does not mean that its unplayable on pc.
    Your argument is - why have the second best, if you can have the best. Mine is - Why have the best when you can have both?
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    You missed the point. Having a game available on console, does not mean that its unplayable on pc.
    Your argument is - why have the second best, if you can have the best. Mine is - Why have the best when you can have both?
    I refer you to the second post of this thread, where I answered that. In other words, this thread has now gone fully circular.

  20. Post #20

    October 2013
    94 Posts
    I refer you to the second post of this thread, where I answered that. In other words, this thread has now gone fully circular.
    Where you clearly said "Why leave the biggest platform there is". My point is that you don't have to leave it, but that you can have both.
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    Where you clearly said "Why leave the biggest platform there is". My point is that you don't have to leave it, but that you can have both.
    I also further elaborated in this same thread:

    The negative would be having to support the PS4 port and ecosystem on top of the already-vast PC version. Imagine 4 million PS4 users seeing Rust pop up in the "new games and shit" section of the dashboard and downloading the demo/buying it because hey it's $15 or whatever why not. Imagine supporting that.
    That's another burden to take on when adding another platform.

  22. Post #22
    frozensoda
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    I just don't see the negative, sony has been very developer friendly and those fees are a thing of the past
    That's because you probably think that porting a game entails of changing the file extension from .exe to .ps4 (yes I know it's a unity game it's just a joke)

  23. Post #23
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    It also means locking yourself into a platform's processes and expenses and needing to get very expensive-ass devkits.

    The big question is, why leave the largest platform there is, PCs? There are hundreds of millions of machines capable of running Rust out there right now. "Hundreds of millions" of PS4s is Sony's sales' team's hottest wet dream fantasy for a good reason.
    "Expensive devkits".
    For example, PS3's devkits costed about 20 000$.
    Oh my, SO expensive for someone making dosh on forums and a game.
    And you forget about people who just like to play on consoles.
    But yeah, PC masterrace!!!!!11111111111
    Fukc consoales!!!!!
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  24. Post #24
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    Console is the cancer that is killing games. GTFO with your console crap and get a real game machine that is not limited in what it can do.
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  25. Post #25

    October 2013
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    This isn't a debate over which is better, sometimes i want to sit on my couch with a controller and play games without worry. Thats why i will always own a console to go along with my computer.
    I have my PC hooked up to my TV with HDMI and I have a wired 360 controller to play games. I also have a wireless keyboard and mouse. Problem solved
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  26. Post #26
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    Console is the cancer that is killing games.
    Stop Post
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  27. Post #27
    Huffing Jenkem Like There's No Tomorrow :^)
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    January 2012
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    Console is the cancer that is killing games. GTFO with your console crap and get a real game machine that is not limited in what it can do.

    Take your elitism elsewhere you shitspewing hatemonger. PC may be the best, but consoles are much more available for people who can't afford gaming computers.
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  28. Post #28

    October 2013
    50 Posts
    Rust on PS4.... dude you need help
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  29. Post #29
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    January 2012
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    There would have to be PS4-exclusive servers. There's no way a controller can match the accuracy of a mouse. And what server provider wants to host console server, when there's going to be 0 donation their way, 0 feedback, etc. It's a possible, however.
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    KillaMaaki's Avatar
    August 2013
    999 Posts
    Console is the cancer that is killing games. GTFO with your console crap and get a real game machine that is not limited in what it can do.
    Hey, I'm a PC gamer all the way and rarely ever play on consoles, but come on man. Quit making us look bad, please.

    EDIT: On topic... I just don't think Rust will make it to consoles, aside from Steambox (if they make a Linux version as they hinted, it should pretty much just "magically" work on a Steambox).
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  31. Post #31
    frozensoda
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    Just as a note, I believe Garry is trying to stay away from needing to get his games rated by the ESRB, which a console title would surely need. Don't quote me on that it's a secondhand interpretation of a comment he made in passing to another user who was upset about penises.

  32. Post #32
    Eyrin's Avatar
    October 2013
    16 Posts
    And why not on smartphone.

    I have my PC hooked up to my TV with HDMI and I have a wired 360 controller to play games. I also have a wireless keyboard and mouse. Problem solved

  33. Post #33
    "I have a lock pick... it is shaped like a hatchet and I hold it like a shotgun..."
    GuiltyFoxXx's Avatar
    October 2013
    38 Posts
    This isn't a debate over which is better, sometimes i want to sit on my couch with a controller and play games without worry. Thats why i will always own a console to go along with my computer.
    Seriously? Just plug your computer into your TV, problem solved :-P That's what I do. 65" view of naked rust dudes from my recliner couch ^^ oh yeah!

  34. Post #34
    MrPancake's Avatar
    October 2013
    262 Posts
    why wouldnt you want to experience rust in vr?
    As if I aint seeing dicks enough... Now I will see them in games aswell... xD

  35. Post #35

    October 2013
    116 Posts
    Consoles destroy PC games please don't mention it again!!! :P
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  37. Post #37
    KillaMaaki's Avatar
    August 2013
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    Consoles destroy PC games please don't mention it again!!! :P
    Please, it's been said before, but it's worth repeating. This isn't a debate on PCs versus console.
    They're both good at different things.
    Let's stay on topic, shall we?
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  38. Post #38

    October 2013
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    Please, it's been said before, but it's worth repeating. This isn't a debate on PCs versus console.
    They're both good at different things.
    Let's stay on topic, shall we?
    That was on topic, he said it should be on a console, I said it destroys PC games, once they are on both platforms do you actually think they will waste money optimising for all platforms?

  39. Post #39
    KillaMaaki's Avatar
    August 2013
    999 Posts
    That was on topic, he said it should be on a console, I said it destroys PC games, once they are on both platforms do you actually think they will waste money optimising for all platforms?
    Just saying "consoles are better than PC" is NOT on-topic, no. You're just stating a personal opinion about something (with no evidence to back it up, I might add). It has nothing to do with whether or not Rust will end up on consoles.
    If however, you had said "I feel that in the long run consoles are better optimized than PCs, so they should go that route", it would have been on topic. See the difference?

    My personal opinion is that it will not end up on any console beyond perhaps Steambox (and even that will be mostly as a result of having a Linux build rather than directly supporting SteamOS). I just don't think Rust is really a good fit for controllers, and even the Steam controller with all of those buttons may have some issues, especially the hotbar (unless they map the hotbar to scroll wheel, which I think they should do anyway)
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  40. Post #40
    Dennab
    October 2013
    112 Posts
    Take your elitism elsewhere you shitspewing hatemonger. PC may be the best, but consoles are much more available for people who can't afford gaming computers.
    Really? Computer games are normally significantly cheaper as well as don't require a 300-400 dollar TV connected to it. Once you add in the cost of a TV, you end up finding that a console costs just about as much as a brand new low to middle end gaming PC. The only difference is that the gaming PC does more


    Also something you guys are forgetting is that the console's won't be able to run their own servers (ad hoc servers would cause sooo many problems) so they would require dedicated servers outside the console. You can't do cross platform because shooting in this game is ALREADY hard enough for M/KB, I wouldn't even WANT to try to do it with a controller, and the console gamers wouldn't stand a CHANCE in hell of competing against the PC guys.
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